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dave
Ireland
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 Posted - 26 Mar 2006 : 18:45:19
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Originally posted by serenata
Dave, this it what I meant. Your posting just sounded odd to me... Paedo'philes' (as they are wrongly called, because '-phile, -phily' means that you love someone/something, and these men don't love children. They use them, that's all) are ill people, weak people, and they should be in custody as long as they are not willing to undergo treatment.
Agreed, sorry for the confusion!
I understand you very well when you say that none of us whites can imagine how it feels to be a target of racism. Im Irish Serenata and Ive experienced racism towards me personally and my countrymen...for years Irish people were treated as 2nd class citizens. Im sure you know about signs that were on display in the US. "No blacks, no dogs, no Irish". Forunately times have changed somewhat |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Mar 2006 : 03:24:42
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Hi Dave those signs were common place in the UK during the 50's and 60's. And during the American civil war as soon as the Irish reached New York city and placed their mark at immigration they also had to sign up to go fight in the American Civil War on the side of the Yanks to assist in emancipating the African American Slaves. The Irish immigrants then started rioting in New York City, lynching African American free people because they blamed them for being sent to fight in the war.
So I agree with you Dave that the Irish have had a long history of getting a raw deal from, and in Britain, then the US as second class citizen for at least 500 years but not a rough deal as us Africans. However the wheel of fortune must turn 360 degrees after all the world is not a square, as the Europeans thought it was
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bamba
Sweden
401 Posts |
Posted - 27 Mar 2006 : 10:00:29
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If I were to choose between victims of racism and perpetrators of racism and their offsprngs,I, as a black African and an eternal victim of racism,will surely choose the victims of racism. Perpetrators of racism and their offsprings always have ways with words and can hide behind smoke-screens. Perpetrators of racism are usually dubious and have very qualified methods of pursuing their interests whatever their interests may be.
Some Gambians back home after years of studies in the UK in 60s and 70s came back with Irish wives that easily smelted into their new Gambian scoiety. I have been made to understand that Irish, in the UK, mingle freely with blacks due to their common ordeal. The devil that tastes the pain is always better than the devil that inflicts it, like we say. |
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dave
Ireland
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Posted - 27 Mar 2006 : 16:56:16
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Originally posted by Sister Omega
Hi Dave those signs were common place in the UK during the 50's and 60's. And during the American civil war as soon as the Irish reached New York city and placed their mark at immigration they also had to sign up to go fight in the American Civil War on the side of the Yanks to assist in emancipating the African American Slaves. The Irish immigrants then started rioting in New York City, lynching African American free people because they blamed them for being sent to fight in the war.
So I agree with you Dave that the Irish have had a long history of getting a raw deal from, and in Britain, then the US as second class citizen for at least 500 years but not a rough deal as us Africans. However the wheel of fortune must turn 360 degrees after all the world is not a square, as the Europeans thought it was
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thanks for your thoughts Sis.....How was your trip??? |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 27 Mar 2006 : 19:38:03
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“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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bamba
Sweden
401 Posts |
Posted - 27 Mar 2006 : 19:58:26
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| It's a paradox. Irish are whites discriminated by other whites. At least the Irish know how it feels like to be targets of racial discriminations,hence their easy collaboration with blacks---the #1 targets of racial discriminations. |
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serenata
Germany
1400 Posts |
Posted - 27 Mar 2006 : 20:37:28
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Originally posted by bamba
It's a paradox. Irish are whites discriminated by other whites. At least the Irish know how it feels like to be targets of racial discriminations,hence their easy collaboration with blacks---the #1 targets of racial discriminations.
You are right, similar experiences are very conjunctive (correct expression?). After all - 'my enemy's enemy is always my friend'...  |
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dave
Ireland
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Posted - 28 Mar 2006 : 15:10:40
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Originally posted by bamba
It's a paradox. Irish are whites discriminated by other whites. At least the Irish know how it feels like to be targets of racial discriminations,hence their easy collaboration with blacks---the #1 targets of racial discriminations.
I believe its down to perceived poverty Bamba. In those days Irish emmigrants went abroad to the US, UK etc to find work because it wasnt available here and were looked down on simply because they were poor. Sure...things have changed in my country in the past 30 years but that lingering racism still exists. I guess it has ben transferred throught the generations. |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Apr 2006 : 23:51:36
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Religion had much to do with it too......Irish were mainly Catholics.
On the subject of Ghana town:
I visit there each trip. This time I went to the Brufut Beach Bar and had the best, freshest fish ever. Highly recommened!
The Ghanian community is CHRISTIAN....and I think that accounts for its separateness. It is rare these days to have a small community that relies on one form of work.They risk their lives at sea in their small boats on a daily basis.The fact that theyare a long way from home means they bond strongly together.
I am interested to know the level of interaction between the people in Ghana town and the people of Brufut.
The bodies washed up at the beach were Ghanians.....has anyone ever been charged with their murders??????
Any form of slaverly or prostitution, especially of children is wrong and should be stopped, whoever is doing it to whomsoever.
Where are the rights of the child (as stated by UNICEF) in all of this?????? |
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