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dave
Ireland
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 Posted - 21 Mar 2006 : 02:59:13
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And most contributors to this Bantaba blame toubabs huh??????. Anyone brave enough to comment???
The Gambian authorities said this week they were questioning a group of 63 Ghanaian children, most of whom were girls who had been trafficked into the country for use as "sex slaves" and unpaid domestic servants.Immigration officials said on Wednesday that they had cracked a child trafficking ring which was bringing in the teenagers into the country illegally to work for a community of Ghanaian fishermen living on the coast.
The Coordinator of the Child Protection Alliance in the Gambia, Jalamang Camara, said the children, aged between 12 and 18, were rounded up in a joint operation last week involving child welfare activists and Gambian intelligence and immigration officials.
"They can neither speak English nor any of our indigenous Gambian languages," Fanta Ceesay, Gambia's Director of Social Welfare told IRIN. "They were illegally trafficked into the Gambia."
The girls were discovered in a fishing community 25 km south of the capital Banjul known locally as 'Ghana Town'. It is populated almost entirely by Ghanaian fishermen and their families.
According to the Gambian National Intelligence Agency, the girls were smuggled into the country without official papers to work as sex slaves for their Ghanaian masters.
Ceesay confirmed this. She said the girls were forced to "satisfy the sexual desires of older men" and some were working full-time as prostitutes within the 5,000-strong Ghanaian community.
The Gambian authorities said that the girls were also made to work long hours smoking fish and selling gari, a popular Ghanaian staple made from cassava. Meanwhile, their masters' own children went to school and had all their usual domestic chores, like washing their school uniforms and even cleaning their shoes, done for them by the trafficked children.
Reports of child slavery are common across West Africa. Impoverished parents are often duped into sending their children with the traffickers on the pretences that the child will be given a better life, or education with a host family oversees.
Sometimes parents are told that the child will work as a domestic for rich folk and will be able to send back remittances to ease the family's grinding poverty.
The promises soon vanish into thin air. Many parents never see or hear from their children again.
Tamsir Jassey, the Deputy Director of Immigration, said that in some house-to-house cases his officials had found more than a dozen Ghanaian slave girls living in one room.
The issue of child abuse, and particularly child sex abuse, has only recently come to light in the Gambia. However, the use of children as slave labour is common in Ghana, particularly on Lake Volta.
No evidence has emerged so far to suggest that the Ghanaian girls were being offered for sex with European tourists who crowd the Gambia's sunny beaches and often look for sexual encounters.
Police have apprehended a number of child traffickers involved in this latest affair in Ghana Town. Officials said door-to-door searches were being conducted to see if any more children could be rescued.
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kassma
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Posted - 21 Mar 2006 : 04:09:12
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Originally posted by dave
And most contributors to this Bantaba blame toubabs huh??????. Anyone brave enough to comment???
The Gambian authorities said this week they were questioning a group of 63 Ghanaian children, most of whom were girls who had been trafficked into the country for use as "sex slaves" and unpaid domestic servants.Immigration officials said on Wednesday that they had cracked a child trafficking ring which was bringing in the teenagers into the country illegally to work for a community of Ghanaian fishermen living on the coast.
The Coordinator of the Child Protection Alliance in the Gambia, Jalamang Camara, said the children, aged between 12 and 18, were rounded up in a joint operation last week involving child welfare activists and Gambian intelligence and immigration officials.
"They can neither speak English nor any of our indigenous Gambian languages," Fanta Ceesay, Gambia's Director of Social Welfare told IRIN. "They were illegally trafficked into the Gambia."
The girls were discovered in a fishing community 25 km south of the capital Banjul known locally as 'Ghana Town'. It is populated almost entirely by Ghanaian fishermen and their families.
According to the Gambian National Intelligence Agency, the girls were smuggled into the country without official papers to work as sex slaves for their Ghanaian masters.
Ceesay confirmed this. She said the girls were forced to "satisfy the sexual desires of older men" and some were working full-time as prostitutes within the 5,000-strong Ghanaian community.
The Gambian authorities said that the girls were also made to work long hours smoking fish and selling gari, a popular Ghanaian staple made from cassava. Meanwhile, their masters' own children went to school and had all their usual domestic chores, like washing their school uniforms and even cleaning their shoes, done for them by the trafficked children.
Reports of child slavery are common across West Africa. Impoverished parents are often duped into sending their children with the traffickers on the pretences that the child will be given a better life, or education with a host family oversees.
Sometimes parents are told that the child will work as a domestic for rich folk and will be able to send back remittances to ease the family's grinding poverty.
The promises soon vanish into thin air. Many parents never see or hear from their children again.
Tamsir Jassey, the Deputy Director of Immigration, said that in some house-to-house cases his officials had found more than a dozen Ghanaian slave girls living in one room.
The issue of child abuse, and particularly child sex abuse, has only recently come to light in the Gambia. However, the use of children as slave labour is common in Ghana, particularly on Lake Volta.
No evidence has emerged so far to suggest that the Ghanaian girls were being offered for sex with European tourists who crowd the Gambia's sunny beaches and often look for sexual encounters.
Police have apprehended a number of child traffickers involved in this latest affair in Ghana Town. Officials said door-to-door searches were being conducted to see if any more children could be rescued.
dave, what's your point? the key word in this article is obviously not Gambian. it is Ghanian girls, being mistreated by Ghanian men, in the Gambia. if you have a problem with africans' blaming everything on toubabs, go to a Ghanian website and mention this. this occured in the Gambia but it is obviously not the fault of the Gambian people. however, did you see the last highlighted section: European tourists who crowd the Gambia's sunny beaches and often look for sexual encounters.
get off your high horse. it is mostly European and Americans who are at fault for the international sex slaves and people being kidnapped, especially children. how many specials have i watched about americans (white people) going off to asia, the carribean to have sex with people and kids. and then the sad thing is, most americans are like "oh, it is such a shame that children are being trafficked" but its mostly them who finance criminal behaviors like that.
Most of the people on here are "brave" enough to answer you. the thing is, wasting time on nonsense is probably something they don't indulge in. me on the other hand, feel that i have to set you straight before you fool yourself into thinking that you're right. |
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ylowe
USA
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Posted - 21 Mar 2006 : 08:58:54
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| This is sad to hear that such activities are going on in the Gambia. There was a article months ago about Ghanian girls shouting "gari" for sale and instead they are selling something else. |
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Formby
United Kingdom
246 Posts |
Posted - 21 Mar 2006 : 14:04:07
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 21 Mar 2006 : 19:59:04
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Kassma you disappeared from the radar for a while. Good to see you back.
Dave i dont think the bantaba lacks "brave" people who would like to speak their mind. I don't think this will make you score a point if yo were looking for one or you lost an argument to someone. Societal problems are not unique to one society but the issue here is Ghanians being trafficked by their own people. i had always objected to setting up a community of immigrants that will not integrate with the locals. Ghana Town is exclusively inhabited by Ghanians and in recent report dead bodies of Ghanian men were found outside the town.
We cannot speak their languages which makes it all the more important to integrate the commuinty. may be this will be food for thought fot the authorities. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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kassma
334 Posts |
Posted - 21 Mar 2006 : 22:37:59
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Originally posted by Formby
kassma you are SUCH a racist. You should be ashamed of yourself. Do you think it solves anything?
just because i'm not some docile African willing to kiss anyone's azz, does not make me a racist. i'm just writing the facts. what, its hurts you as a white person to hear what you people have done, well get used to it cause your people have messed up LOTS of people's lives and that's the truth. its something whites should be aware of so that you fool yourselves enough to think that everything you have now is from your hard work. and everybody else is not as hard working. leave me alone.
hi Konderong, thanks, i'm glad to be back too, was on vacation, a very short vacation |
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kassma
334 Posts |
Posted - 21 Mar 2006 : 22:40:39
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Originally posted by kondorong
Kassma you disappeared from the radar for a while. Good to see you back.
Dave i dont think the bantaba lacks "brave" people who would like to speak their mind. I don't think this will make you score a point if yo were looking for one or you lost an argument to someone. Societal problems are not unique to one society but the issue here is Ghanians being trafficked by their own people. i had always objected to setting up a community of immigrants that will not integrate with the locals. Ghana Town is exclusively inhabited by Ghanians and in recent report dead bodies of Ghanian men were found outside the town.
We cannot speak their languages which makes it all the more important to integrate the commuinty. may be this will be food for thought fot the authorities.
hey, do you know why they are so exclusive? however, i can't really say i have a proble with this isolation since it seems that there are so many issues involving them. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 21 Mar 2006 : 22:58:28
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They set up a fishing village. gambians are naturally generous and the land they occupy was given to them by the people of Brufut who also depend on fishing to some extent. Overtime they grew in size and economically independent.
The reality is that gambians dont like skilled jobs that would not place you behind a desk in the office. This is how they took control of the area with very little monitoring. Now they have children who are citizens but we have not integrated them yet. It is going to be hard because there is no land left for others to come in.
Ghanians are very hard working people and probabaly the most honest in the sub region. But times have changed and economic pressure have forced them to leave Ghana. They are well educated people have helped in the education sector in the gambia at the time of independence. However this settlement has nothing to do with that. It is exclusively in habited by fishermen. Ghana has poor fish stock and is very expensive and gambians were very picky as to what to eat and beaches were littered with fish some years ago. You could go to the beach and get fish free until recently. Gambia was a small paradise lost.
Now it is hard to afford one. initially they were exporting smoke fish back to Ghana and because the gambian curency was about 5 to a pound sterling, it was stable enough and huge money back in Ghana.
The cordial relationship gambia had with ghana helped them settle easily and politically "incorrect" to ask questions. Kwammeh was a friend of dawda Jawara. Jawara was a graduate of Achimota College and it was a "pay back time". |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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Nabou
Sweden
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Posted - 22 Mar 2006 : 11:25:41
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Originally posted by kassma
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Originally posted by Formby
kassma you are SUCH a racist. You should be ashamed of yourself. Do you think it solves anything?
just because i'm not some docile African willing to kiss anyone's azz, does not make me a racist. i'm just writing the facts. what, its hurts you as a white person to hear what you people have done, well get used to it cause your people have messed up LOTS of people's lives and that's the truth. its something whites should be aware of so that you fool yourselves enough to think that everything you have now is from your hard work. and everybody else is not as hard working. leave me alone.
hi Konderong, thanks, i'm glad to be back too, was on vacation, a very short vacation
God Almighty, forgive this bad woman Kassma for her very bad language.This woman can not be a Gambian.i have never seen such rudeness in our people! |
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dave
Ireland
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Posted - 22 Mar 2006 : 15:41:05
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In reply to Kassma
dave, what's your point? the key word in this article is obviously not Gambian. it is Ghanian girls, being mistreated by Ghanian men, in the Gambia. if you have a problem with africans' blaming everything on toubabs, go to a Ghanian website and mention this. this occured in the Gambia but it is obviously not the fault of the Gambian people.
The key word is not Gambian, nor is it Ghanian girls. The key issue is that AFRICAN men are taking advantage of AFRICAN underage girls. I think its disgusting but that apart, my point is that despite your impression that this activity is confined to Toubabs, it is clear that African men are just as perverted as the so called sex tourists that visit Africa (and other poverty stricken countries in Asia etc)Although it is right to target and punish Toubab paedophiles, maybe the authorities should be looking closer to home where obviously such behaviour is in some way accepted
however, did you see the last highlighted section: European tourists who crowd the Gambia's sunny beaches and often look for sexual encounters. Yes i have seen it but you obviously havent read it properly. Read it again before you comment!!!. It specifically states that the problem is NOT the white people that look for encounters on the beach. Quote:No evidence has emerged so far to suggest that the Ghanaian girls were being offered for sex with European tourists who crowd the Gambia's sunny beaches and often look for sexual encounters.
get off your high horse. ( I wont even comment on your attitude, others on this Banataba have done that)
Most of the people on here are "brave" enough to answer you. the thing is, wasting time on nonsense (you think the subject is nonsense????. You are sadly mistaken my friend. It seems to ne that the only nonsense on this board is what has come from you)
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dave
Ireland
89 Posts |
Posted - 22 Mar 2006 : 15:44:19
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Kondoring
"Dave i dont think the bantaba lacks "brave" people who would like to speak their mind."( it was a tongue in cheek comment the purpose of which was to invite debate)
"I don't think this will make you score a point if yo were looking for one "( I dont spend my life trying to "score points", I try to look at both sides of a debate and figure out where the balance should be and the righteousness
"Societal problems are not unique to one society but the issue here is Ghanians being trafficked by their own people. i had always objected to setting up a community of immigrants that will not integrate with the locals. "( I agree totally, Experience the world over has shown that this creates mistrust and a breakdown in law and order)
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kassma
334 Posts |
Posted - 22 Mar 2006 : 18:33:19
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Originally posted by Nabou
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Originally posted by kassma
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Originally posted by Formby
kassma you are SUCH a racist. You should be ashamed of yourself. Do you think it solves anything?
just because i'm not some docile African willing to kiss anyone's azz, does not make me a racist. i'm just writing the facts. what, its hurts you as a white person to hear what you people have done, well get used to it cause your people have messed up LOTS of people's lives and that's the truth. its something whites should be aware of so that you fool yourselves enough to think that everything you have now is from your hard work. and everybody else is not as hard working. leave me alone.
hi Konderong, thanks, i'm glad to be back too, was on vacation, a very short vacation
God Almighty, forgive this bad woman Kassma for her very bad language.This woman can not be a Gambian.i have never seen such rudeness in our people!
i am a Gambian, born and raised. the difference is that i've been in american culture long enough to be tired of racist BS from whites. and the sad thing is most of the time they don't understand that they are being offensive. and unlike most Gambians, i'm just not willing to put up with it. obviously being the docile African placed us Gambians and Africans in the place we are now. if someone is hostile, i have no problem being hostile right back.  |
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Formby
United Kingdom
246 Posts |
Posted - 22 Mar 2006 : 19:54:45
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Kassama
''it is mostly European and Americans who are at fault for the international sex slaves''
Your statement here is racist whether you like it or not. Every single race that ever was or will be commits attrocities against others. That is not the issue here. The issue is that you have made a negative and sweeping generalisation about another race, which constitures racism. You think that because you feel wronged it's OK to wrong others, do you? Then I certainly will leave you alone because I have no time for it.
Oh, as an after thought, you might actully like to do some research on the topic before mouthing off. It makes for horrible reading but sadly for you, it's not going to back up your armchair theory. |
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kassma
334 Posts |
Posted - 22 Mar 2006 : 23:14:21
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Originally posted by Formby
Kassama
''it is mostly European and Americans who are at fault for the international sex slaves''
Your statement here is racist whether you like it or not. Every single race that ever was or will be commits attrocities against others. That is not the issue here. The issue is that you have made a negative and sweeping generalisation about another race, which constitures racism. You think that because you feel wronged it's OK to wrong others, do you? Then I certainly will leave you alone because I have no time for it.
Oh, as an after thought, you might actully like to do some research on the topic before mouthing off. It makes for horrible reading but sadly for you, it's not going to back up your armchair theory.
why don't you do research about it and see for yourself. i'm aware other races might have done the same thing, but not as much as americans and europeans have, and thats a fact. if u want to get mad and call me a racist about facts, suit yourself.
i've noticed that a lot of toubabs seem to get offended quickly on this website when someone mentions that toubabs have done this or that. however, as Gambians and Africans on this forum, it is our right to voice our opinions on our condition. why do so many toubabs on here have to get so defensive. if we're so wrong, why are you defensive. i'm aware that not every toubab is responsible but i think as a race, you guys do have to own up to the fact that your race has done horrible things to others. yeah, you probably were not born when it happened or you had nothing to do with it, but, be objective enough to realize that you are benefiting from the horrible actions of your ancestors, period! and those actions are one of the main reasons why there are such things like 3rd world countries and 1st world countries and such. |
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Babylon
Sweden
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Posted - 23 Mar 2006 : 11:16:34
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Hi Kassma!
I don´t think none of the toubab members here at the Bantaba are racists, if they were why would they be here in the first place? I think all here are pretty intelligent and know our history more or less, and we are here because we love Africa and her people. Most of us know what happen in the past and don´t need to be reminded and lectured about it everyday. And we cannot be blamed for something that we didn´t do.
I understand you are angry with the past, but so are most of us toubabs. We can´t change the past no matter how we wish.
Hate is destructive, not only for yourself but for our society. To hate is the easiest solution, and one who spreads hate and negativity can affect so many people -especially those who have weak minds and are easy to influence or manipulate.
A strong, confident person on the other hand is a loving person with a positive mind who looks towards the future instead of the past.
We can not deny our past, but we will never move forward and make things better in this world if we let hate and let ignorance rule us.
Two wrongs don´t make it right.
I am not superior, you are not superior. Let us strive to be on the same level for we are all part of one race -the human race.
And you may think this may all sound like cliche´s or "imperial BS"... If that is your humble opinion then so be it. But I meant what I said.
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serenata
Germany
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Posted - 23 Mar 2006 : 13:04:13
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Dave, though I find it interesting and disgusting at the same time, I don't know the purpose of your posting. What did you mean to show us?
Fact: There are Whites who abuse underage Africans, and Asians, and Latinos.
Fact: There are Whites who abuse underage Whites.
Fact: There are Africans who abuse underage Africans.
Fact: There are barely any Africans (Asians, Latinos) who abuse underage Whites.
If you want to balance accounts, count correctly. Or were you looking for an excuse, like: "Mom, I misbehaved, but Billy did the same!"?
Anyway, does it make any difference for the victims if they are abused by white or by black adults? |
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