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turk
USA
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 Posted - 07 Oct 2007 : 06:17:55
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My daughter is 3 months old. I have been doing a lots of search on the net and finding out there are several things parent can do to teach your baby to learn and develop.
Some knowledge:
Did you know babies can swim when they were born. She was only a few weeks old, I filled out the tube and swim with ther. She floats. And no fear of water at all. Actually she has been loving being in the pool. Now I got a inflatable swimming pool she actually swims with safety equipment. We are talking about 3 months old baby here.
Also, babies can see contrast colours especially black-white. We look at many shapes together a lots of practise, now we are looking at the stories with the coloured pictures. Imagine 3 months old baby is looking at the stories with so much focus.
I usually leave her lying down her stomach, she tries to hold up her head, her neck mussle got so much stronger, now she is standing with the full head control.
I am not pushing her too much. I don't want to put her so much pressure. I just don't want her simple lay down and do nothing. We usually do something together. These are just a few samples but I want to give advice to new parents. There are so much you can do to help your baby learn new things much earlier.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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anna
Netherlands
730 Posts |
Posted - 07 Oct 2007 : 10:14:05
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| Talking to your baby as from day one is also very important for the baby's development. Well Turk, my guess is you're a great talker! |
When an old African dies, it is as if a whole library has burnt down.
Amadou Hampate Ba (Mali) |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 07 Oct 2007 : 10:38:33
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yeah, i talk to her all the time. In her language too. 'Agu', 'heya', 'ya-a', 'woo'. :)
Anna,
You are so right. She knows interacting. Here is our dialog.
She: Agu.. Heya...Agu...wooooo
Me: I am not sure if that is true.
She: Agu. Agu. Agu. ya-aaaaa.
Me: Hmmm. That is a good point...:):)
She communicate, when I start talking she waits for me to finish. Lol.
Next I will start talking about why dutch rejected EU constitution :)
My challange is actually her language. English is not my first language, so she will not learn good english from me. I may teach Turkish. I want her to be bilingual, english/turkish during her childhood. We decide not to teach her Wolof. (Instead we will focus some of other african cultural staff. Anyway). I was thinking about her limit, she might learn blah blah. I was reading article the other day, at this age, she has no limit, her brain is like spunge.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 07 Oct 2007 10:43:24 |
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fee_sweetie
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 Oct 2007 : 10:47:27
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yep, your child wont learn if you dont interact and teach them.
My son was sitting unaided at 4 months, crawling at 5months and walking at 9 months.
He is now almost 14 months and is such a clever wee boy, he knows so much and can communicate very well and loves to learn and discover new things.
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"Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it you'd have good people doing good things + evil people doing evil things but for good people to do evil things it takes religion"- Richard Dawkins |
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anna
Netherlands
730 Posts |
Posted - 07 Oct 2007 : 11:02:16
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Turk, keep pouring into that little spunge - never mind about your Turkish English. Don't know about mummy, but Gambian English is a language of its own too - at least that is my experience ;-)
I can see you two are having important discussions. Next time tell you little girl that all the folks in a nice little country called Holland are having a hard time financially since they were obliged to accept the euro as their new money and that they have to pay a lot of this money to the EU and they never get anything in return. I'm sure she will say: 'Heya...wooooo,boowoo...that is not fair'.
Have a nice Sunday with your family, Turk (and i always thought all the Turks emigrated to my neighbourhood). |
When an old African dies, it is as if a whole library has burnt down.
Amadou Hampate Ba (Mali) |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 07 Oct 2007 : 11:24:03
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fee sweetie
The baby picture very much look like my daughter. Same colour, curly hair. It is great to hear your son is doing very good. My daughther not yet sitting unaided, but she stands 5 seconds when she leans toward sofa bed. Anyway, it is important to understand baby's development. Each baby has different development. I was worried she was not holding object, suddenly couple days ago, she starts touching/holding things with hand and her mouth.
anna
Will tell her. My brother is law's brother had baby with a dutch lady. He was telling me how good dutch foreign language education is. Anyway, sunday is almost finish here. good day to you. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 07 Oct 2007 : 23:53:45
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Anna
Little girl say: You might be right anna in terms of short term effect but in the long run, due to rising China and India will cause in Dutchland human capital problem. Europe wants to have bigger scale economy to compete with new monsters later on. Also, older european population means more social security spending and less productive people. European's expansion is good for you in the long run.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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anna
Netherlands
730 Posts |
Posted - 08 Oct 2007 : 07:17:15
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Turk, i just got up - 7 am here, my Gambian husband already left for work with the breakfast and lunch i made him in his bag. Dragged my cup of coffee to the computer, opened Bantaba and read this amazingly clever response. What are you feeding that child?
Seriously, you can reassure her: most of us Dutchies know deep down that it is better for us to be part of this bigger thing called EU, and most of us didn't even know what was in this constitution. Rejecting it was just an act of rebellion (you don't want her to know about rebellion just yet, do you?), telling our government that just because they had managed to shove this euro down our throats with a lot of nice promises didn't mean they would get away with everything... |
When an old African dies, it is as if a whole library has burnt down.
Amadou Hampate Ba (Mali) |
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mbay
Germany
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Posted - 08 Oct 2007 : 10:34:45
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Yes they knows a lots what we may will not expects from the at all.
example the first trimester: 0 - 12 weeks all major body systems continue to develop and function, including the circulatory, nervous digestive, and urinary systems the embryo is taking on a human shape.
the eyes, nose mouth ears the arms and legs are becoming more distinct .fingers and toes are still webbed .and you can hear the baby's heartbeat using an Doppler.
embryo is in constant motion but cannot be felt by the mother.
The 2nd trimester: 12 - 24 weeks The eyes have been gradually moving to the front of the face and the ears have moved from the neck to the sides of the head. THE FETUS CAN HEAR THE MOTHERS VOICE!
the developing reflexes on swallowing / sucking.
24-40 weeks: placenta fully developed Fingernails grows on fingers and toes ,cycles of sleep and wake. skin is wrinkling covered with soft lanugo.The fetus can RESPOND to certain stimuli and can see and hear.
kicks, moves are on by turn from side to side.
The brain will go through its most important period of growth .
Eyelids are beginning to open and the eyebrows and eyelashes are visible.
Fingerprints and toeprints have formed. the halfway point of the pregnancy .
The fetus can suck its thumb and has the ability to cry.
the 3rd trimester: 38 to 40 some use 42 weeks, the perfections is there. the long hard months the greatest momentous in life the very best of welcome and wishing from warm hearts.
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Oh Mummy please do not spend your money on that all gums for nuking whole the day. I LOVES BREASTFEEDING cos is good for my tooth, i want them to be just like Daddy's one ( )
one may corrects me if am wrong. |
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kayjatta
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Posted - 08 Oct 2007 : 17:52:00
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Turk, just a caveat here. It is very very good to interact with babies and kids of all ages. However, visualization and talking are the keys for babies. It is good you share stories with color patterns with the baby.
However, my worry is if you put the baby through a grueling exercise regimen such as "forcing" a 3 month old to stand up; and you also talked about his neck muscles? How about swimming with a few weeks old baby? Those sound really strange to me. Are you okay Turk? Human beings go through certain developmental stages, and there is no need to rush them. Just stick with talking and sharing picture stories.
Also you have to be cautious when you pull off information from the internet and use it, because there are a lot of information on the interent that are not credible (a little better than old-wives' tales) and not up-to-date.
You may want to talk to your family doctor to get some recommendations.
Thanks buddy, take care. |
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MeMe
United Kingdom
541 Posts |
Posted - 08 Oct 2007 : 21:46:16
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| OK, Kay, I'm now going to vote for you as president - your responses are always well thought out, to the point and full of common sense! Couldn't have put it better in the response to Turk ..... |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 08 Oct 2007 : 21:48:57
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Kayjatta
Kayjatta as usual, you like to make statement without any knowledge and facts. This is becaming habit for you. Anyway.
Swimming is only natural to a baby. Have you ever heard water birth? Babies actually are born in the water. Here some reading for you about babies and water.
http://www.pregnancy.com.au/water_birth.htm
http://www.babycenter.com.au/baby/development/swimming/
http://www.babycenter.com.au/baby/development/headcontrol/
http://www.babycenter.com.au/baby/development/headcontrol/
http://www.babycenter.com.au/baby/development
Kayjatta
This is a some reading from babycentre.
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As your baby learns to stand, he may need some help working out how to get back down again. If he gets stuck and cries for you, don't just pick him up and plop him down. Instead, show him how to bend his knees so he can sit down without toppling over, and let him give it a try himself.
You can encourage your baby to walk by standing or kneeling in front of him and holding out your hands, by holding both his hands and walking him towards you, or by buying a toddle truck or a similar contraption he can hold onto and push (look for toddle toys that are stable and have a wide base of support). Because baby walkers make it too easy to get around and thus can prevent a child's upper leg muscles from developing correctly, some experts strongly discourage using them. You can also hold off on introducing shoes until your baby is walking around outside or on rough or cold surfaces regularly; going barefoot helps him improve his balance and coordination.
As always, make sure your baby has a soft, safe environment in which to hone his new skills. Follow standard childproofing guidelines and never leave your baby unattended, in case he falls or needs your help.
Anyway, you sound like 'old wives' who tell stories. Until you provide me evidence and some scientific article you are right, I will trust doctors and experts. Most of the exercise done actually recommended by the family doctor I had. Most important swimming in the water exercise done in the hospital my daughter was born.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 08 Oct 2007 22:09:50 |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 08 Oct 2007 : 22:03:41
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meme
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OK, Kay, I'm now going to vote for you as president - your responses are always well thought out, to the point and full of common sense! Couldn't have put it better in the response to Turk
When it comes to knowledge, you should not rely on "thought out" process of individual, "common sense". It is better to rely on experts.
Your president must tell you why he is right witht the supporting evidence. Let me focus on swimming. You may start your baby to swim as your baby is 5 days old in your home. They can be thought the initial steps for learning to swim. According to studies; Babies are used to water can learn swimming much earlier than others who may have fear of water. When babies take swimming lesson they don't actually learn how to swim like olympic swimmers, it is about experience, getting used to the water, and most important muscles, strengthen the brain and bond with the parents. Studies shown that babies learn swimming at early age develop advanced motor skills. Most important babies learn to swim as infant most likely to walk much quicker than babies don't.
Babies have a mammal-like instinct when it comes to going underwater. THEY AUTOMATICALLY HOLD THEIR BREATH. THEY AUTOMATICALLY HOLD THEIR BREATH. They lose these instincts after 2-3 months. So do not listen your president, listen the experts. Take the baby swimming before she or he lose this instinct.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/8285/swimming_techniques_for_newborn_babies.html
Your president now must come with supporting evidence about how ridiculous about baby swimming.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 09 Oct 2007 04:46:54 |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 08 Oct 2007 : 22:21:17
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Another topic is how to raise baby 'traditional gambian way' or 'traditional turkish way'. My parents and my wife parents provided several traditional approach with the baby. For example, one of my relatives told me not to give shower to the baby at night. Huh? What are you talking about. Babies love to have shower before sleep. It relaxes them.
One of gambian friend gave us some kind of oil look like butter. Yellowish. And recommend us to oil twice a day. What is with the oiling baby? When it is very hot, baby is not confortable with the oil at all. Doctor told not to oil baby everyday. It is ok once in a while. But as long as baby take shower twice a day, baby does not need any oil. Unless if baby skin is very dry, rush, egzima( how do you spell that?), or when baby is under intensive sun.
I am really carefull taking advice from family and friends. Instead, I always look experts opinion to validate the advice. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 09 Oct 2007 04:43:52 |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 08 Oct 2007 : 22:44:26
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mbay
That is so true. Thanks for bringing this point. Babies are already learning even before they were born. The diet of mother, smoke, alcohol all have impact. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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jammin
Jamaica
149 Posts |
Posted - 08 Oct 2007 : 22:49:01
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In Jamaica the locals would say " no pomposity roun ere"
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Edited by - jammin on 08 Oct 2007 22:52:24 |
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