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Karamba



United Kingdom
3820 Posts

Posted - 14 Aug 2007 :  20:40:53  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message

Bread Man,

Because H E Yahaya is soaking your bread in spicy sauce makes you finger the keyboards in his good name !! That is a brand of wisdom you cannot be blamed for. You have good reason to stand by the man;in thick and in thin. Others are without bread. What are you doing about that?

Karamba
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kayjatta



2978 Posts

Posted - 15 Aug 2007 :  10:28:11  Show Profile Send kayjatta a Private Message
Santafara , do you think Yahya is using the religion (Islam) appropriately as a governance and defence strategy ?
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Santanfara



3460 Posts

Posted - 15 Aug 2007 :  11:46:27  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by kayjatta

Santafara , do you think Yahya is using the religion (Islam) appropriately as a governance and defence strategy ?


kay ,i don't believe that yahya use islam to direct any of his strategies ,he decieve the religious leaders with his kaftans and frequent haj but he distance himself from proper islamic ethics .remember this is a man who grace women rassling competition and attend all sorts jambori that are in contradiction with islamic teachings. he uses the image of decent muslim leader but abstain from the practical side of things. i use to remember seeing him attend some jumas in his owm residence and abstain from attending some ,may be security reasons .
he likes the aspects of secular democracy but refuse to implement even that in its correct platform .
yahya is every where . breadman ,i never advocate for you to aggree with me ,neither do i wish to aggree with you ,but you time and again winch that we don't appreciate yahya's development yet critise him for his human rights records ,i acknowledge that he does some good things for the gambia and he is a pragmatice in his dealings .there are some visible development which i have no problem to accept ,but to me the fundamental respect of human beings is more important than all the gold statues he is erecting in the greater banjul. but have you ever acknowledege his brutal sides of things ? you contiunally said you cannot attribute any crimes to him ,but what are you doing to proof his critics wrong ? sit and say all negatives comments are his detractors .that is why i asked you to set up a commission of enquiries .how can you try to count the eggs of dock whilst the dock is sitting on her eggs ? it doesn't make sense ,do you believe that yahya will appropriately accounts his misdeeds whilst still a president ? let him get out that seat and see what will surface . mean while we will not be quiet about his killings fields ,we will write about it any time .
besides i wish his evils on you because you make mockery of the many families that surfer in his hands.one good turn deserves another.

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com
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bread man



300 Posts

Posted - 15 Aug 2007 :  16:05:18  Show Profile Send bread man a Private Message
President Jammeh spices my bread only through the benefits am having as a Gambian that has seen the former government. I am not working and neither do I have any intention to seek a job with Jammeh, as I am a private citizen with my own means of survival, thanks to the nerves (babilon syndrom) I had as a school boy in the 80s. All I am praising Jammeh for is his efforts to make my home country a better place to live and to be proud of.

Bro Samtang,
I do not and will never make mockery of those patriotic citizen that lost their lives in their struggle. I am an advocator of justice and democracy. Anyway, it seems like this is a forum where only people with the same views about Jammeh should pariticipate without being called names. However being the democrat I am, I will without doubts maintain my rights to be affliated to any political party. In this case APRC.

It is the mark of intelligence to entertain an idea without accepting it.

Edited by - bread man on 15 Aug 2007 21:38:25
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Santanfara



3460 Posts

Posted - 15 Aug 2007 :  16:25:07  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by bread man

President Jammeh spices my bread only through the benefits am having as a Gambian that has seen the former government. I am not working and neither do I have any intention to seek a job with Jammeh, as I am a private citizen with my own means of survival, thanks to the nerves (babilon syndrom) I had as a school boy in the 80s. All I am praising Jammeh for is his efforts to make my home country a better place to live and to be proud of.

Bro Samtang,
I do not and will never make mockery of those patriotic citizen that lost their lives in there struggle. I am an advocator of justice and democracy. Anyway, it seems like this is a forum where only people with the same views about Jammeh should pariticipate without being called names. However being the democrat I am, I will without doubts maintain my rights to be affliated to any political party. In this case APRC.


you are wrong .no one wants you to accept there views .we want you to acknowledge some of yahya's misdeeds that's all. you can affiliate with any party ,be aprc or afprc .i affiliate with no party .

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com

Edited by - Santanfara on 15 Aug 2007 16:26:30
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bread man



300 Posts

Posted - 15 Aug 2007 :  16:50:26  Show Profile Send bread man a Private Message
What happened to innocent until proven guilty????? That applies to Jammeh too my friend.

It is the mark of intelligence to entertain an idea without accepting it.
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Santanfara



3460 Posts

Posted - 15 Aug 2007 :  17:41:52  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by bread man

What happened to innocent until proven guilty????? That applies to Jammeh too my friend.


or yeh ,see no evil hear no evil more like it than inoocent untill proven guilty .then stop telling us to acknowledge yahya's silicon valley dreams.

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com
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Karamba



United Kingdom
3820 Posts

Posted - 15 Aug 2007 :  18:19:31  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message

Santanfara,

Yahya Jammeh, after killing and stealing, thinks the whole Gambia is ready to join his world of false merry making. That is why he has drumming and singing around wherever he goes. All the drumming and singing is way of escaping the impacts of his evil life. If Bread Man is enjoying good business in Gambia, that tells a whole story. We have come a long way with this deception but now narrowing down to capture the wild.

Karamba
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bread man



300 Posts

Posted - 15 Aug 2007 :  21:35:23  Show Profile Send bread man a Private Message
Dream on there!! I have always acknowledged that the man is human and is bound to make mistakes. I have never though and will never acknowledge him being responsible for every bad that happens in The Gambia. That does not represent my democratic believe. If you think that any one that excercises his rights to support Jammeh is enjoying favours from him, then you people are just in denial. Yes I am enjoying big favours by the benefits of the better road conditions and some other basic things we never had before.
Finally I didn´t have to tell anybody about Jammeh´s sillicon valley. You acknowledged it your self and that acknowledgement is based on evidence. So stop the ranting about attrocities and be part of the constructive debate on how to contribute possitively for effective changes in the man or the seat. I still remain loyal to my constitution and that nobel book says that every body is innocent until proven otherwise.

It is the mark of intelligence to entertain an idea without accepting it.
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Karamba



United Kingdom
3820 Posts

Posted - 15 Aug 2007 :  22:15:07  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message
Bread Man,

For now, the urgency of changes relates to the man more than the seat or perhaps the other way. Yahya Jammeh has no readiness to change. It will cost us far more as a nation seeking to nurture an individual who is not ready for change. Thirteen (13)years is more than enough time and abnornal loss of national resources already. What do we do with a single person after all the ruins brought on the nation? The bitter truth about change is that it is not static. For one person to stay on more than enough is a negation of the principles of change. Even if Jammeh turns Gambia into Singapore (vision 2020 /2040) He is only human as you rightly put it. That means he's got to respect the reality of human limitations and give up the grips. For him to insist staying on till doomsday is an insult to other very able Gambians. Jammeh is not the one who discovered and settled Gambia. Why is he bothered what happens when he leaves? Better he does it decently and in peace than having it done to him disgracefully and in pieces. What would you choose?

Karamba
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bread man



300 Posts

Posted - 15 Aug 2007 :  23:14:35  Show Profile Send bread man a Private Message
Brotherman, you have rightly said it again, I agree with this piece of yours. Well, not so many times do i agree with you, but you have a valid point there. I believe if we continue to constructively address his flaws he will one day come to terms with as you said (the reality of human limitation). peace to all (even bro Santang)

It is the mark of intelligence to entertain an idea without accepting it.
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Karamba



United Kingdom
3820 Posts

Posted - 16 Aug 2007 :  00:23:18  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message
Bread Man,

As a humanist, I personally hate to see anyone subjected inhuman suffering. By that same passion, it is natural that I hate to see Yahya Jammeh suffer. All I can imagine is that by causing so much anger and despair, Yahya is making more people hate him. When the tides turn against him, expect a bitter sting on his skin. Angry people out there will have no mercy for Jammeh if he drags on till a painful exit comes his fate. He is not the most BEAUTIFUL angel to be LOVED by those smiling men and women. It is unlikely that some of the people in the crowd LOVE him in a true sense. What is the point enjoying 40 years in power and getting swept after all the majestic days are over? If you doubt that what happened to other CHARMING presidents could not happen to Yahya, I am not sure if anyone will buy that. In a humanly way, Jammeh's decent exit is overdue. What is he waiting?

Karamba
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Karl



136 Posts

Posted - 16 Aug 2007 :  00:38:33  Show Profile Send Karl a Private Message
Breadman,

It is absolutely ridiculous the way you regard yourself a democrat. May be you don't realised but believing in Jammeh style you are very much declaring the opposite contradicting your humble sense of democracy. Come on my brother, stop fooling yourself thinking this power crazed dictator is doing the best for the Gambia.

His style of governing the country and her poor citizens is putting the nation in more danger than you could imagine. Gambians are being oppressed in a cowadly and brutal manner under the cover of so called developments. Sorry, but where is the development you are wrongly focused upon?

As patriotic citizens we're crying foul not for Jammeh's head but for his foul deeds and stinking camouflage behavour playing tricks on our intelligence as a nation. Hey, my brother please let us be true to ourselves and make a true judgement about Jammeh and his 13 years of misrule. Lots has happen, not in our favour and we need to rise up now to better the situation before its too late. Only when this semi-illiterate self style dictator lost his grip on power then you will realised how much damage he has done to us. He has spearheaded a system that is continuously turning Gambians against fellow citizens in unspeakable brutal and cruel manner never before seen in our land. People are not only shouting at the top of their voice because they want to, they are refering to real cases, facts and real victims.

We claimed to be the smilling coast but many Gambians are smilling no more due to the cruel reality of Jammeh's irresponsible era. Even when we're forced to smile, we do so with a bloody teeth. How long do we have to put up with this hypocrisy??? All we need from Mr President is to free our National Institutions ie,(Press, Justice and the Electoral system) away from his dictates and his despotic followers inorder to make them functional accordingly through the eyes of democratic principles and practices, then with peoples power, you will be suprise how soon this man will be another closed chapter in our national history. Let justice guide our actions towards the common good!


"People who shut their eyes to reality simply invite their own destruction, and anyone who insists on remaining in a state of innocence long after that innocence is dead turns himself into a monster" J Baldwin
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Santanfara



3460 Posts

Posted - 16 Aug 2007 :  00:49:57  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
brother karl ,i can't put my reply to breadman any better than you have just done. i respect the position of breadman ,keep to your corner breadman ,we have to disaggree to be aggreeable in the future .

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com
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Karamba



United Kingdom
3820 Posts

Posted - 16 Aug 2007 :  00:53:31  Show Profile Send Karamba a Private Message

Karl,

Yahya the Excellency is seriously infatuated with this title of president de la republic. Never think he is able to see through the dark clouds that block his vision. When a mind's eye gets blind, that person is the real BLIND. The people with physical disability to see are better known as VISUALLY IMPAIRED. On that account, Yahya is critically blind and those who continue fooling him are equally blind. What do you think is there to induce a person that he is a great president after knowing that he robbed a whole nation's constitutional pillars of decent democracy and now bragging of a NEW GAMBIA made by him?

Karamba
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