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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
 Posted - 12 Aug 2007 : 13:18:17
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With the amount of Gambian tax payers' money spent on arms by president Jammeh in what is called defence or security, curious observers are raising burning questions. One of the big doubts fuming in critical minds is whether the president is planning to commit suicide in the last hours leading to his eventual doom. If not, many people stay on with queries about why the president prefers to plunge the nation's wealth in purchasing arms, other dangerous weapons, and maintaining fat inducement for those he calls special guards. What is the thinking behind president Jammeh's moves?
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Dalton1
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Posted - 12 Aug 2007 : 19:06:29
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Bro. Karamna,
Who are you any way?
I say this in the positive, not because I want your identity. Your name satisfies me, honestly. But here is what i intend to say:
But I tell you something; after a threading with Toubab (here) about weapons coming to Africa, I culdn't place all i learnt from people. So I truly wanted to concur on this thread. I spoke to a one time senior army officer (Jammeh's), and sad to say his revelations are scary. lets do something before it is late.
and thank you for your alerts here, time and again.
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"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 12 Aug 2007 : 20:13:43
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Dalton1,
I am closer to some of you than you imagine. If we all recall the people we rub hands with, there is certainly someone somewhere with whom both and I have rubbed hands. Do you doubt that? The day we all come together; in cyber space or on some free land somewhere, we shall grace the occasion to shake hands in perfect peace. It is rather an issue that when we drive to focus attenttion on pertinent issues like this, some others perceive it as just another politically motivated advocacy. I trust that your good self and many others on this forum are not just posting for the sake of command over words. You are doing good job and there is massive progress to account. Let's get going and we'll get there perhaps much sooner than anyone thinks. I appreciate the very good inputs from you all. It is a matter of severe default on our collective part if one small person can mount a post of dictatorship on the many heads full of light. As citizens, we need to consider moving away from our comfort zones for some time. Your current move is both positive and progressive. May the Amighty bless your efforts. |
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Dalton1
3485 Posts |
Posted - 13 Aug 2007 : 06:07:22
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bro. Karamba,
It must be. You are a solid immoveable pillar.
With the weapon deal, I was wondering, how come the cassamance rebels takes pride in healing in the Gambian hospitals after encounters with the Senegalese's forces.
I still need information about this cassamance rebel called Gibba, Alexandra. It is alleged he was in one of the hotels for some time (a thread by Somita).
In any ways, God look after you all!.
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"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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kayjatta
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Posted - 13 Aug 2007 : 08:43:53
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| Karamba , thanks for raising this issue of arms. Jammeh need arms to stay in power. Those arms obviously are for his elite guards whose loyalty and trust he also has to maintain by well pay and other inducements. That is how dictators live. The sad thing is that the Gambian people who are struggling with poverty daily has to pay for all this.But sometimes the guns that protect you eventually turn against you... |
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Sibo
Denmark
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Posted - 13 Aug 2007 : 10:27:28
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It is very sad that hard working citizens have to pay for those weapons. Jammeh is in paranoia, he thinks everybody is after him. He can by all the weapons he wants, but when the times comes when he has to go, he will, nothing will get in the way of that.
I really feel sorry for the hard working tax payers paying for all this. |
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serenata
Germany
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Posted - 13 Aug 2007 : 13:54:24
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Does anybody know where Jammeh buys the weapons? USA? Russia? China? Germany? etc.
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Santanfara
3460 Posts |
Posted - 13 Aug 2007 : 15:57:42
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quote:
Originally posted by serenata
Does anybody know where Jammeh buys the weapons? USA? Russia? China? Germany? etc.
mainly former soviet states and may be now iran .but whatever the case may be ,weapons don't protect leaders, good governance does. weapons are use by men and women and this people have emotions and ties .one way or the other they will rebel and stand down .the sooner yahya realise that the better .the gambian mentality is not a killer mentality and by that account he cannot collectively make us killers .although some of our army personel have allowed themselves to be use and dumped ,they will certainly be call to account for attrocities commited God willing .
yahya may be praise for some things but what we cannot fundamentaly dismiss is the his tendence to kill ,that cannot be underestimated. he kills ,this are hard facts for his staunch supporters .today ,yahya has successfuly create a dual personality in many simple and decent gambians ,by day they are loving and caring human beings but by night ,they engage in some of the most inhuman mistreatmen of fellow citizen's ,there are facts about this cases .this culture has also contributed to making some people develop revenge mentality and this two dynamite may be colide if care is not taken.we all aspire for peace and development ,but for every citizen not just a section of the populace. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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Ebra
Gambia
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Posted - 13 Aug 2007 : 17:42:17
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Bros. Kayjatta and Santa, you two were hiding for sometime. I have not seen your educative postings lately.
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bread man
300 Posts |
Posted - 13 Aug 2007 : 20:31:11
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Screaming about Jammeh being a murderer is not enough anymore, he is also going to murder himself. What is this? Sound to me like a vandetta against the H.E. Which head of state is not keen in protecting himself? Of course Jammeh is no exclusion in the desire to survive. So yes, he will protect himself as all of us would have done.So again, if there is any evidence to what Jammeh is being accused here, please let us know, if not just rest your cases and come and join us in nation building.
Brother Dalton,
Its not only the Cassamance rebels that takes pride in having medical aid in The Gambia. My own aunt travelled all the way from Dakar to get her eyes operated in the RVTH last year and she is definitely not a rebel.
You see brotherman, The Gambia is seeing some improvement although pretty infant but its coming. peace to all.
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 13 Aug 2007 : 21:21:22
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Bread Man,
It is not the wish of any genuine patriot (hope we all qualify being one) to see a whole head of state in the temptation of suicide. This was a simple question provoked out of curiosity. Because H E Yahya is working so hard to develop the homeland, Gambia, he certainly does not need all the weapons around himself. Remember Hitler too was a man of weapons. Saddam had more weapons too. Idi Amin, Abacha and Prince Johnson (Charles Taylor's warring comrade). All these brave men had weapons. Why anyone worries about Jammeh's weapon power is between the concerns over our slim Gambian financial reserves and the fear that these weapons can be fatally employed by wrong people at wrong times. Could it not be because of the abundance of weapons that some of the weapon holders try it on innocent citizens? Because Jammeh is our president, we all need to worry what may happen with him encircled with these dangerous weapons. Let us pray that on some bad day, these weapons are not turned on the keeper(s) |
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bread man
300 Posts |
Posted - 13 Aug 2007 : 22:32:24
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| I believe that we all have the god will of our dear homeland at heart if we spend all this time agueing. However I think its time we all come together to do some thing as one nation no matter what political affliation we have. There are many intelligent people out here and we can share our opposing intelligence to advice the H:E. when ever we believe he flawed (which he does) cos he is human. But let me remind you again that H.E. is a hard working man and just as the wollofs said "however fast the horse runs you still should give it a little whip". A little whip. Jammeh is having too much of a whip, he needs a break. |
It is the mark of intelligence to entertain an idea without accepting it. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 13 Aug 2007 : 23:49:21
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Bread Man,
Another Wollof saying has it "Ku Boat Bucki, Hajii Bo La." Simply translated, one who has a wolf on the back must expect dogs to bark at you." We also have it that "Ku Dey Marce, Ya Taggeh Sa Boppa." For benefit of others, this means a person who dies in public place like market makes a self obituary. These can be interpreted in diverse ways but may boil down to very similar message derived from. In short, Jammeh, a self invited, self imposed, dictatorial person is open to competent scrutiny for all his actions. This is more imposing as he takes deep bite into the national cake all for himself and gets killed those who dare raise concern over all his wrongs (many, many, many of them.) If he had stayed a striving soldier in the barracks, defending Gambia rather than now seeking to defeat the entire nation, he was still to get his due compensation like others. It is the long queue to achievement that he so high-jumped and landed on us as a nation. He does not deserve a rest until he takes a rest from the nation's highest seat. That seat is not a resting sofa. Bread Man, you keep calling on Gambians to join hands and work in support of the July Revolution. That is not a sentiment shared by Jammeh in practice. We have seen a number of PATRIOTIC Gambians who queued up to lend every support for H E Yahaya. They all ended being disgraced, tormented, and in extremes, killed. You still expect others to fall in same trap? Are you Jammeh, or are you sure he trusts Gambians at all? I am not sure of that and will need your assuring declaration to help us share what we all don't know. |
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Santanfara
3460 Posts |
Posted - 14 Aug 2007 : 00:22:16
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| thanks again brother karamba for your educative and thought provocating topics. i didn't think it necessary to reply to breadman's post ,a grow-up man who still believe yahya is not behind the crimes commited against gambians is not worth replying to. i don't whether you have ever listen to yahya making six feet comments or not but even his own family can verify those imfamous speeches ,so if you want prove that yahya kills ,then go set a commission of enquiries .there are many decent families who are maurning because their love ones are no where to be seen and you sit at where ever you are saying there is no proof .well ,may his evils befall on you . |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 14 Aug 2007 : 01:08:48
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True, true, Santanfara,
Bread Man knows it more than you that his Big Man is the Military High Command dictator. He promised to kill, followed by dead bodies resting at his feet for to be pleased. Sad enough, Santanfara. Sad. |
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bread man
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Posted - 14 Aug 2007 : 18:56:04
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Originally posted by Santanfara
i didn't think it necessary to reply to breadman's post ,a grow-up man who still believe yahya is not behind the crimes commited against gambians is not worth replying to. there are many decent families who are maurning because their love ones are no where to be seen and you sit at where ever you are saying there is no proof .well ,may his evils befall on you .
Well, am not worth replying but you did reply. If you are looking for a place that everybody agrees with you and shares the same opinion about everything, then you are at the wrong place. Am free as you are to express my democratic right to be affliated to the politics that addresses to my understanding the well being of the average Gambians.
Finally, Jammeh´s evil will never befall me as you wish cos he has a lot more than evil to offer and am already benifiting. So my prayers to you is may the warmth of simpathy torch your heart and redirect your rage toward the vigorous will to join the struggle for development. peace. |
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