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mbay
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 Posted - 25 Jun 2007 : 10:58:03
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[quote]Originally posted by Santanfara
i don't know if askia is sarahule or not but i will find out from people of mali.
for my information he was a very Soninke.
there is a very interest book from Heinrich B. a Germany author , N /Z Africa 1849 - 1855 .may will help out some information in that area , if is available in English .
If am well informed was this or some reason we are strict precluded in politics, some say it was even before the time of this unfortunately family of Songhai or Sonxhai Empire, that's why we become a king maker in even our newborn country .
Thats why i leave it up for Lemon Time & co  |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 25 Jun 2007 : 17:34:24
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manding web site http://perso.orange.fr/laurent.berte/Html/kemebourema1
YOU CAN FOLLOW SOME VERSIONS OF MANDING HISTORY UPTO HOW SUNDIATA came to power .also how the first people came to gambia .it is a very good website. it is in both english and french. samory toure's history is narated by jalis as usual. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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Edited by - Santanfara on 25 Jun 2007 17:36:19 |
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mbay
Germany
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Posted - 26 Jun 2007 : 00:40:38
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vry intrs, tanx body.
mi lak lakit. |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 28 Jun 2007 : 11:57:21
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mbye , if only the music is not involve kandia kuyateh did a very good naration of manding hostory on the album mandinkalu and salief kaiter as well in manding mansalu .but this stories goes with music so i wouldn't recommend that . sakouba bambino did another version of salisajo .it is good stroy but again the sound tract is the wahala. .danke |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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mbay
Germany
1007 Posts |
Posted - 28 Jun 2007 : 18:18:43
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Originally posted by Santanfara:
the soninke (sarahule) where known to be arround ghana end and also in songhai
the real origin of the sarahules may be difficult to say
you are right about Ghana or Xhana, which means my friend. but the real origin of Soninke are far more than that,
they're from Egypt and that for some 100s yrs BC.
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 28 Jun 2007 : 21:21:09
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You are right Mbay at least from what i have learnt.
Story has it that the people of manding were descendants of one of the lost tribes of Judae who moved west during Exodus in Egypt.The Sarahule are a breed of this tribe with the Berbers in the north. That is why the word Soninke is interchangeable with mandinka and sarahule because both tribes have similar origins. I will give you the name of the origianl tribe as i left my note pad under the mango tree by the health center. |
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mbay
Germany
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Posted - 29 Jun 2007 : 12:09:29
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they are Nubian Family from a Aswan descendants very closed to Levant family.
It was even before the Exodus 2200 B.C. their King called Piy that first conquer ancient Egypt in about 25th dynasty.
the first families headed forthward Ghana was about as early as 7000 B.C or less than that, and the Dingha was the first family that have moves to Kumbi Saleh. |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 29 Jun 2007 : 16:04:29
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| there is a book written by jali Bamba Suso on the history of manding connecting that to the Gambia .it is available at amazon.co.uk or .com the book is call sunjata a penquin classic by bamba suso. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
www.suntoumana.blogspot.com |
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Momodou
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Santanfara
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Santanfara
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Posted - 26 Nov 2007 : 12:22:11
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| mjt ,i don't know whether you still visit bantaba .i am enjoying the gambia for over three weeks now but my return is coming soon.i went to kerewans sound last week to buy the cassetes of SORY KANDI KUYATHE ON keme bourama touray the younger brother of samoury.i bought four album of sory kandia .i aslo bought four album of demba camara bembeya jazz.i want to do my own research on the tourays thoroughly.so if you want to know more about samoury listen to old sory kandia.the manding history is rich.it include the apostated nyanchose.have a good day. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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kayjatta
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Santanfara
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Posted - 14 May 2008 : 11:06:00
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Originally posted by Momodou
Suntu, Here is a BBC site on history of Africa http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/africa/features/storyofafrica/4chapter3.shtml
This site is interesting and very informative ,although I am not too smart in traditional history...
revisiting the old postings. kay, you stated that you are not verse about our traditions. and all i along i was thinking, this kay man must be a sonko ot jatta. how comes? i will paste my little take on masane ceesay .
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Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
www.suntoumana.blogspot.com |
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kayjatta
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Posted - 14 May 2008 : 11:14:58
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Santanfara
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Posted - 14 May 2008 : 11:40:36
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Originally posted by kayjatta
I do not even know where our tribes come from, really...
kay we will do some thing about you? you need a decent domoda. but don't worry help is on the way. where is alpha kondo? the jatta muta jatta's. i doubt that very much. or may be not a hungry jaah taah. .our serere historian tamsier should tell us more about the movements of the serere and what names are more linked with serere. i have a friend with the names jaw. he speaks serere. is jaw a typical serere tamsier? as for you kay, you are manden. since you listen to music i suppose get some salifu keiter on Mandinkalu or old sori kandia ,mandinkalu nbalima .that track went in great lengt about who the mandens are. that is just a rehearshal. also try to lay your hand on the mandingo kingdoms of senegambia. i bought mine from canada for twenty dollar including postage. but in here we will do a casual naration. just comfirm your surname which i believe is jatta. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
www.suntoumana.blogspot.com |
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