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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 07 Mar 2006 :  19:03:30  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
His Excellencey, Yaya, Alhaji, doctor, abdul, aziz, jamus, junkung jammeh told all of us on television that even his grand children will never be poor. Where did he have the wealth. Someone mention on this site thta yaya had an overdraft at the Bank when he came to power.

It means there is nothing for me. Remember his daughter is less than 10 years who is not ready to start High School yet let alone have a child. I am not prepared to pay taxes that end up in a foreign bank account for Junkungs grand children.

I am very patriotic and started working with a montly salary of D185.00 in 1988. I have served my quota to national development for 15 years. There are many like me who have given up and these are well educated Gambians and are they leaving. There is a serious brain drain back at home and some of our poblems is that there are many in high offices today who are not yet ready to handle those positions.

The civil service is a mockery and there is so much inept incompetence. Your ticket to high office is becoming an APRC memebr.

“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.”
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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3091 Posts

Posted - 07 Mar 2006 :  20:04:04  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
I think the brain drain is a very serious issue for Gambia. There is a whole layer of middle class people missing from the society. I dont blame them for going abroad to try to get a better life for themselves and their families..that is human nature.

But for Gambia to progress these are precisely the people the country needs to retain OR entice back......

Those of you well educated Gambians working in other countries...what would it take for you to return home???? Is it money, or freedom or working conditions???? What is your main issue?
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 07 Mar 2006 :  21:16:47  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
Freedom to be be able to make professional judgement. Gambia cannot pay as much as in developed countries but you need to be able to make independent decisions. By the way the salary of the president is D28,000.00 per month about $1000.00 which in the US is at the federal poverty level.

Public officials should be able to [perform without undue interferance and should not be forced to compromise their professional duties for political matters. The public service is larger than any party or individual and they are always here to stay and governments come and go.

“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.”
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kassma



334 Posts

Posted - 08 Mar 2006 :  05:49:55  Show Profile Send kassma a Private Message
when you put it like that, well, nobody can blame anyone for leaving. stuff like this makes me so angry because a few greedy stupid people ruin everything for everybody. my aunty told me a few days ago that in the country,the government pays foreign doctors more money (and in dollars) than Gambian doctors. as someone who was seriously thinking of one day practicing medicine in Gambia, seriously, i refuse to deal such BS like that.
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 08 Mar 2006 :  18:55:28  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
Foreign doctors and magistrates are paid higher, they have a private car, a driver, watchman, a house free of rent in Kotu cape point, Fajara, fully furnished house for free, free air tickets for holidays for their families etc. No Gmabian government lawyer or Doctor gets these. I cannot list it all. We do not like ouselves. Gambians think anything foreign is good. No wonder we know nothing about our history. Our teachers were from Sierraleone or Ghana who were never fully ready to teach something Gambian. See my latest on Senegal and Gambia Unification. May be you will learn something your foreign teachers never told you in school. See my contribution under the title "problem with the Gambian judiciary".

“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.”
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kassma



334 Posts

Posted - 08 Mar 2006 :  19:47:08  Show Profile Send kassma a Private Message
in my head, i'm trying to find some reason that would validate why in the world they would give preferential treatment to foreigners. do you think its because of where they got their education from. this is soo messed up.
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 08 Mar 2006 :  19:52:50  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
No. Sierraleonean judges educated in Sierraleone and a Gambian Graduate from Oxford or Cambridge makes no difference. You just have to be a foreigner to qualify.

“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.”
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kassma



334 Posts

Posted - 08 Mar 2006 :  20:10:17  Show Profile Send kassma a Private Message
well then F them, i seriously refuse to suffer in medical school and then go to Gambia to help my people only to suffer some more. who is responsible for this nonsense, the government or what?
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 08 Mar 2006 :  20:44:23  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
You guess is as good as mine. It is a colonial legacy we inherited in which locals earn less and unfortunately no one is there to change it.

“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.”
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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3091 Posts

Posted - 08 Mar 2006 :  23:10:49  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
Presumably it is supply and demand...simple economics. These people have skills that the Gambia needs and to attract them from their home countries they have to give the a big package of incentives.
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 08 Mar 2006 :  23:47:01  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
Gambiadev

It is not supply and demand. There are many lawyers who have opened up offices only to be processing land deeds. We should be able to attract them back with atleast some incentives. Many of them do not earn half as much even if they are equally qualified. We can invest in these fields. After 41 years of independence, the face of the judiciary is mainly foreign.It is by design not by accident.


“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.”
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kassma



334 Posts

Posted - 08 Mar 2006 :  23:51:50  Show Profile Send kassma a Private Message
where is your thread about the judiary, i can't find it. they better change that nonsense. maybe more Gambian professionals will stay home and help their country wasn't it for this BS they are using on their own people. i swear, i have never heard of such sh#! before
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gambiabev

United Kingdom
3091 Posts

Posted - 08 Mar 2006 :  23:55:21  Show Profile Send gambiabev a Private Message
If they have equal qualifications and do an equal job then they should have equal pay....
The sooner Gambia is unionised the better!!!!
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 08 Mar 2006 :  23:55:29  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
Jabbi Kassama

I could only find this piece below. It make have been archived.

I think one of the reasons why we do not have experienced Gambian judges in public service is that they are under paid compared to foreign judges. Each foreign judge or even a magistrate is entitled to a car, Driver paid for by the Government, a well furnished house in Cape piont or fajara, a return air ticket every year for himself and family to country of origin, a police escort, a night watchman paid for by the government etc. There is no Gambian magistrate who has all these right now. It is a known fact that some judges even if they get married to Gambians, do not want to change their nationality because such benefits are not accorded to Gambians.

We discriminate against our own people and in the Gambian Civil Service, foreign means excellence and hence all the so called expatriates and consultants
Beinformed.

“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.”

Edited by - kondorong on 09 Mar 2006 00:36:22
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kassma



334 Posts

Posted - 09 Mar 2006 :  00:33:36  Show Profile Send kassma a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by kondorong

Jabbi Kassama

I could only find this piece below. It make been archived.

I think one of the reasons why we do not have experienced Gambian judges in public service is that they are under paid compared to foreign judges. Each foreign judge or even a magistrate is entitled to a car, Driver paid for by the Government, a well furnished house in Cape piont or fajara, a return air ticket every year for himself and family to country of origin, a police escort, a night watchman paid for by the government etc. There is no Gambian magistrate who has all these right now. It is a known fact that some judges even if they get married to Gambians, do not want to change their nationality because such benefits are not accorded to Gambians.

We discriminate against our own people and in the Gambian Civil Service, foreign means excellence and hence all the so called expatriates and consultants
Beinformed.




i think the saying ignorance is bliss is so true. if the government has the money to waste on F-ing foreigner, they could easily spend the money better educating our own judges and doctors, so we wouldn't need foreigners helping us out. i'm sooo pissed off and shock. this is so ignorant and stupid its unbelievable. i have to admit i'm numb because i've never hear such nonsense before. with things like that its like we're demoting ourselves and saying that we're not good enough. i'm so sad now, i think the worst thing that could happen to a person is to have an inferiority complex, when a nation has that, well then how do you recover and be a self-sustaining nation if you're actually spending money to demote your own people.
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