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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 25 May 2007 : 23:45:03
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Karamba of course I LOVE THE GAMBIA what other reason would I devote so much time thinking about her. When Gambia touches your heart you cannot refuse her. All one can do is find your purpose by seeking ways to improve her.
Peace
Sister Omega |
Peace
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Edited by - Sister Omega on 25 May 2007 23:47:37 |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
2085 Posts |
Posted - 25 May 2007 : 23:45:03
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Karamba of course I LOVE THE GAMBIA what other reason would I devote so much time thinking about her. When Gambia touches your heart you cannot refuse her. All one can do is find your purpose by seeking ways to improve her.
Peace
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Peace
Sister Omega |
Edited by - Sister Omega on 25 May 2007 23:47:37 |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 26 May 2007 : 00:08:57
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Sister Omega,
Credit to you in loving Gambia so much. Quite frankly, if you were not always on the other side, it hard to imagine how we could all go this far. It has been moments of disagreements, above all your contributions have served. You have been a wonderful debater and quite assertive. Your role is perfectly fitting to the occasion. Thank you so much letting us disagree to agree. Anything that must have been taken harder, my very sincere apologies. Never meant to offend. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 26 May 2007 : 00:08:57
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Sister Omega,
Credit to you in loving Gambia so much. Quite frankly, if you were not always on the other side, it hard to imagine how we could all go this far. It has been moments of disagreements, above all your contributions have served. You have been a wonderful debater and quite assertive. Your role is perfectly fitting to the occasion. Thank you so much letting us disagree to agree. Anything that must have been taken harder, my very sincere apologies. Never meant to offend. |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
2085 Posts |
Posted - 26 May 2007 : 01:07:15
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I have no real objection to a Presidential term limit in the future and I suspect that in the future a Presidential term limit will eventually be included in the Constitution. When the Gambian system has evolved enough to facilitate it. I think change for change sake is not a good reason to implement a time limit at present. A thorough overall of the system is needed to make it more efficient and effective. In some ways this is actually beginning to happen the Civil Service is being shaken up which is a good thing because it keeps employees on their toes. There is no such thing anymore as a job for life. If Civil Servants are not performing effectively within their posts once given the necessary training and development support then it's time for someone else to take their place.
Government needs to monitor civil servants performance by setting time targets not overzealous or unrealistic ones but there must be parameters put place to improve outcomes. Much more training opportunities need to be implemented to assist with social mobility and generation of wealth. Gambia needs to produce more food for itself and stop relying so heavily on imports.
Corruption in the system needs to be weeded out. The government has already started to address these issues and just like the best medicine which often the most bitter to swallow obviously this is not palatable for those on the receiving end of it. However Nation Building requires sacrifices to measure how far a nation has come it is good to look how far it has travelled to allow it to asertain what stage it is now. Gambia has indeed experienced turbulance on this journey there is no doubt about that. However the shake has been necessary to pull it out of stagnation it had been suffering from for nearly three decades. An analogy I would use is decorating a house, first you have to create a certain about of chaos before decorating a room, dismantling the fixtures, fittings and furniture creating some chaos. Once stripped bare you have to fill up the holes, sand them down, paint the ceilings, and walls then the windows and doors. It is much easier to get a house decorated with a team of workers than with one or two people and the rest criticising that the house is mess and they want to enjoy the benefits of living in a newly decorated house filled with it's contents immediately. By shouting on the sidelines the members in the team are not putting in any work but want to reap the benfits of living in the house. The job of decorating the house would be done faster if the members of the team all did their share of the work,and then could get both the satisfaction and benefitting from a newly refurbished house.
In my view it is healthy to have think tanks of divergent views within Gambia itself operating within institutions and civil society for policy makers to have access to assist in Nationbuilding, after all that is how most countries formulate their policies.
Peace
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Peace
Sister Omega |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
2085 Posts |
Posted - 26 May 2007 : 01:07:15
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I have no real objection to a Presidential term limit in the future and I suspect that in the future a Presidential term limit will eventually be included in the Constitution. When the Gambian system has evolved enough to facilitate it. I think change for change sake is not a good reason to implement a time limit at present. A thorough overall of the system is needed to make it more efficient and effective. In some ways this is actually beginning to happen the Civil Service is being shaken up which is a good thing because it keeps employees on their toes. There is no such thing anymore as a job for life. If Civil Servants are not performing effectively within their posts once given the necessary training and development support then it's time for someone else to take their place.
Government needs to monitor civil servants performance by setting time targets not overzealous or unrealistic ones but there must be parameters put place to improve outcomes. Much more training opportunities need to be implemented to assist with social mobility and generation of wealth. Gambia needs to produce more food for itself and stop relying so heavily on imports.
Corruption in the system needs to be weeded out. The government has already started to address these issues and just like the best medicine which often the most bitter to swallow obviously this is not palatable for those on the receiving end of it. However Nation Building requires sacrifices to measure how far a nation has come it is good to look how far it has travelled to allow it to asertain what stage it is now. Gambia has indeed experienced turbulance on this journey there is no doubt about that. However the shake has been necessary to pull it out of stagnation it had been suffering from for nearly three decades. An analogy I would use is decorating a house, first you have to create a certain about of chaos before decorating a room, dismantling the fixtures, fittings and furniture creating some chaos. Once stripped bare you have to fill up the holes, sand them down, paint the ceilings, and walls then the windows and doors. It is much easier to get a house decorated with a team of workers than with one or two people and the rest criticising that the house is mess and they want to enjoy the benefits of living in a newly decorated house filled with it's contents immediately. By shouting on the sidelines the members in the team are not putting in any work but want to reap the benfits of living in the house. The job of decorating the house would be done faster if the members of the team all did their share of the work,and then could get both the satisfaction and benefitting from a newly refurbished house.
In my view it is healthy to have think tanks of divergent views within Gambia itself operating within institutions and civil society for policy makers to have access to assist in Nationbuilding, after all that is how most countries formulate their policies.
Peace
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Peace
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 26 May 2007 : 01:14:42
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Originally posted by Sister Omega
Corruption in the system needs to be weeded out. The government has already started to address these issues and just like the best medicine which often the most bitter to swallow obviously this is not palatable for those on the receiving end of it.
sister Omega
Is there a scientific proof or is this some cultural belief that the bitter the medicine the more potent it is.
Or are you twisting Bob's song "The harder the battle, the sweeter the victory"
Have a pleasant weekend from the foothills of Allonghareh to the marshylands of Mile Seven. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 26 May 2007 : 01:14:42
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Originally posted by Sister Omega
Corruption in the system needs to be weeded out. The government has already started to address these issues and just like the best medicine which often the most bitter to swallow obviously this is not palatable for those on the receiving end of it.
sister Omega
Is there a scientific proof or is this some cultural belief that the bitter the medicine the more potent it is.
Or are you twisting Bob's song "The harder the battle, the sweeter the victory"
Have a pleasant weekend from the foothills of Allonghareh to the marshylands of Mile Seven. |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
2085 Posts |
Posted - 26 May 2007 : 01:28:15
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Hi Kons
Yu bes taste sum Cerassie tea and let me nuh weh yuh tink! De ting BITTER!!!
Bob mus a member de taste too
Yes I must agree with Bob "the harder the battle, the sweeter the victory!"
It's just like cool drink of water when you think your going to die of thirst.
Peace
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Edited by - Sister Omega on 26 May 2007 01:29:24 |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
2085 Posts |
Posted - 26 May 2007 : 01:28:15
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Hi Kons
Yu bes taste sum Cerassie tea and let me nuh weh yuh tink! De ting BITTER!!!
Bob mus a member de taste too
Yes I must agree with Bob "the harder the battle, the sweeter the victory!"
It's just like cool drink of water when you think your going to die of thirst.
Peace
Sister Omega
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Edited by - Sister Omega on 26 May 2007 01:29:24 |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 26 May 2007 : 02:45:28
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Sister,
To start with your ideal housekeeping scenerior, there is a serious omission worth observing. You wrote as if you either don't know or choose closing your eyes to the fact that it is Jammeh who desttroyed and continues destroying what you would have termed a TEAM. In Jammeh's Gambia, he began by destroying everything and everybody. Those who thought they were ready to join as way of serving society ended up maltreated and terribly disgraced in the face of the very society. In shorter terms, Jammeh is looking for people to adore him and not anyone who is able and willing to utilise specialised skills for national development. I am not sure where you build your hopes on the readiness of Jammeh to allow sincerely genuine skilled Gambians work with him. He proved beyond any doubt that he is looking for those to work FOR HIM and not WITH HIM. Those, keeping faith in APRC rather than any religion. He is craving for a Gambia where when he calls red green, everyone must accept without query. In such a Gambia, those who tried have failed. You have it all wrong when you accused Gambians of not ready to serve government of the day. Jammeh is not seeing a government but his personal being. You have even gone far enough by advocating that Jammeh's rampant scale of dismissals is justifiable. That is quite sad. All that adds up to give credence to what many know is the scheme of tyranny by which Jammeh hires and fires as weapon of control over everyone in public service. Because you are not affected, it is hard for you balance this. A state Finance Minister disappeared. Next his charred remains was what the public saw. Was this not a man with very high skills who thought he did the right thing? Even if it was not the state agents that killed him, what stops them from getting to trace his killers? That is just one example. The rest, may be others will remember.
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 26 May 2007 : 02:45:28
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Sister,
To start with your ideal housekeeping scenerior, there is a serious omission worth observing. You wrote as if you either don't know or choose closing your eyes to the fact that it is Jammeh who desttroyed and continues destroying what you would have termed a TEAM. In Jammeh's Gambia, he began by destroying everything and everybody. Those who thought they were ready to join as way of serving society ended up maltreated and terribly disgraced in the face of the very society. In shorter terms, Jammeh is looking for people to adore him and not anyone who is able and willing to utilise specialised skills for national development. I am not sure where you build your hopes on the readiness of Jammeh to allow sincerely genuine skilled Gambians work with him. He proved beyond any doubt that he is looking for those to work FOR HIM and not WITH HIM. Those, keeping faith in APRC rather than any religion. He is craving for a Gambia where when he calls red green, everyone must accept without query. In such a Gambia, those who tried have failed. You have it all wrong when you accused Gambians of not ready to serve government of the day. Jammeh is not seeing a government but his personal being. You have even gone far enough by advocating that Jammeh's rampant scale of dismissals is justifiable. That is quite sad. All that adds up to give credence to what many know is the scheme of tyranny by which Jammeh hires and fires as weapon of control over everyone in public service. Because you are not affected, it is hard for you balance this. A state Finance Minister disappeared. Next his charred remains was what the public saw. Was this not a man with very high skills who thought he did the right thing? Even if it was not the state agents that killed him, what stops them from getting to trace his killers? That is just one example. The rest, may be others will remember.
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 26 May 2007 : 11:12:01
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Originally posted by Sister Omega
Karamba of course I LOVE THE GAMBIA what other reason would I devote so much time thinking about her. When Gambia touches your heart you cannot refuse her. All one can do is find your purpose by seeking ways to improve her.
Peace
Sister Omega
I really love these lyrics and vibes Sing along!" We are family! I've got my Sisters with me!
"Let the music play! I just wanna dance with you!"
Thanks Sister as hearts and minds are being won here at Bantaba
BUT I need my Bread ...man! Yes...man?
Many thanks to Karamba for your SOUND NEGOTIATION SKILLS and DIPLOMATIC INITIATIVES! |
Edited by - kobo on 26 May 2007 11:15:35 |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 26 May 2007 : 11:12:01
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Originally posted by Sister Omega
Karamba of course I LOVE THE GAMBIA what other reason would I devote so much time thinking about her. When Gambia touches your heart you cannot refuse her. All one can do is find your purpose by seeking ways to improve her.
Peace
Sister Omega
I really love these lyrics and vibes Sing along!" We are family! I've got my Sisters with me!
"Let the music play! I just wanna dance with you!"
Thanks Sister as hearts and minds are being won here at Bantaba
BUT I need my Bread ...man! Yes...man?
Many thanks to Karamba for your SOUND NEGOTIATION SKILLS and DIPLOMATIC INITIATIVES! |
Edited by - kobo on 26 May 2007 11:15:35 |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 26 May 2007 : 11:22:12
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Originally posted by Karamba
Kobo,
Without doubt, there are among Gambians those who hold no desire to bank on political position or even such public position as Director, Manager, etc. Out there somewhere, we have genuine Gambian citizens who cannot "stand beside and look", while the nation's good sons and daughters are being subjected to all forms of manipulation in the name of political achievement, popularity or branded faked developments. You guys in Bantaba started a very progressive environment of sharing good views needed to take forward this little but good nation. In your good efforts to bring sanity on track, it is clearly seen how some others with whatever motives, prefer throwing their weight on the basket making things hard to progress. Anyone who thinks of dominating a country for life is nobody good for the people of that country. In our case, that is exactly the role Jammeh is playing. It happened that in the last 13 years, all was taken for granted. Now , we as humble citizens of this little country must not allow such insanity and arrogance to persist. Yahya Jammeh is no explorer to have re-discovered The Gambia (Santanfara). Gambians never for one moment thought a man they so trusted will turn around to become their tormentor, oppressor, exploiter, and killer. We can undo this state of affairs by the very good efforts all of you now resolve to subscribe. Kobo, Salmina, Dalton1, Baldeh, Santanfara, Momodou, Madiba, Gambiabev, Jambo, Serenata, Karl, Kondorong, Ebou4, Alhassan, Mansasulu, and the rest, for you all, it is due to your indulgence that we can come this far. Bread Man, Sister Omega, it is possible you love Gambia too. It is dangerous by all accounts to be blind defender of unsustainable situations. The fact that didvided by time and space constraints we are still able to relate so cordial, there is something to admire in that altogether. It costs no more than our few minutes and dancing fingers on the keyboard to have generated so much in so little a time. What you have all put together within short interval is far more of an output than what the socalled Secretaries of States in Gambia continue doing since 13 years. All they want is to stay until they loot so much national resources. Every word from Radio Gambia or the national GRTS and favoured media houses is nothing but agressive promo. We can liberate Gambia by believing and defending what they (our exploiters) don't believe and will never stand to see prevail. That is all about it Kobo. It is possible to organise Gambian minds and then to share positive values free from FEAR, FAVOUR and DECEIT, as you rightly put. Well done, compatriots. For the TERM LIMIT, it is so important a pillar to be played around with.
Thanks Karamba for the conclusion and END GAME MOVE on this topic.
Refer on Bantaba Opinion Polls about PRESIDENTIAL TERM LIMIT under http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3707
For The Gambia Our Homeland!
We Strive and Work & Pray!
That All May Live In Unity! Freedom & Peace Each Day!
And Join Our Diverse Peoples To Proof Mans' Brotherhood!
Let Justice Guide Our Actions Towards The Common GOOD! |
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