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Babylon
Sweden
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 Posted - 01 Mar 2006 : 16:47:45
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Wow, I just checked out a York touristsite and all I can say is that.. Me likey...
What a beautiful town full of culture and English history! I also saw that they had a Viking festival there recently. 
But I understand Formby, we who live in big cities often get bored after a while in smaller towns or at the countryside.
After some time we start climbing on the walls and long for crowded places and non stop service.
It´s all a matter of what you´re used to, not which place is the better. Every place has it´s good and bad sides.
But York is definitely worth a visit. |
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bamba
Sweden
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Posted - 01 Mar 2006 : 16:55:53
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Gambiabev, since African politics is myopic and hates opposition, it’s
advisable not to put on NADD’s T-shirt while on holidays down there. Keep it/them till you come back to the UK. The parochially minded militants of the ruling regime seeing you putting on NADD’s T-shirts will, without doubt, identify you as a British supporter of NADD and can make your short stay there very uncomfortable for you. It’s a very likely possibility. You need to bear that in mind.
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 Mar 2006 : 18:09:09
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| Bamba..I would like to buy the t shirt if it supports the cause......but thanks for the words of warning about wearing it. |
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kassma
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Posted - 03 Mar 2006 : 22:18:18
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Originally posted by bamba
Gambiabev, since African politics is myopic and hates opposition, it’s
advisable not to put on NADD’s T-shirt while on holidays down there. Keep it/them till you come back to the UK. The parochially minded militants of the ruling regime seeing you putting on NADD’s T-shirts will, without doubt, identify you as a British supporter of NADD and can make your short stay there very uncomfortable for you. It’s a very likely possibility. You need to bear that in mind.
hey bamba, do you know what happens if a Gambian was to wear it?? i'm not really sure how to feel about Jameh, is he bad, good, a murderer. its just that in the past 10 years he has been there, he has done more than jawara did in the 30 years he was there. however, i definitely agree that Jameh needs to go asap, simply because there needs to be a limite of how long a president can stay, no matter how good she or he is. that is a very important issue that should be taken care of.
honestly, as for people here who want to argue, open up a tread and handle your business, arguing like tinkly and babylon did, does nothing but ruin the tread for everybody else and now people are talking about the english pasture or something like that. lets try and be considerate. |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
3091 Posts |
Posted - 03 Mar 2006 : 23:02:03
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There is a big difference between arguing and discussing. I LOVE discussions and HATE arguements! I really like bantaba for learning about Gambia and discussing issues..the downside is it gets personal sometimes.
I HOPE that as we get to know each other better and trust each other more the level of discussion will improve and the arguments lessens. |
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Babylon
Sweden
691 Posts |
Posted - 04 Mar 2006 : 00:14:26
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Yes, you´re right Gambiabev. It´s really not very intelligent to argue here.
Gambia is also a small country, most Gambians know eachother here in Europe. I´m sure if I told what my ex.husbands name is, many would know who I am and I would know who many of the people here are too if I ask my ex. He may even have pics of you in his drawer.
We may have been at the same Gambianweek parties and ate from the same plates too without knowing it here.
So really, we need to respect eachother more. I am sure most wouldn´t argue like this face to face. But cyberspace makes it very easy, since the anonymity it provides. So, you´re right It is really low to act so foolish.
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kassma
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Posted - 04 Mar 2006 : 00:16:56
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Anyways, back to the original topic. I’ve read a lot of people describing their "feminisms" as in "my grandma used to work", and "I work" and this, that and the other. I think a lot of people have missed the point. It’s not about working or not working, it’s about your behavior. Many white girls and women I have noticed are submissive through their behavior and manners towards males and that's something a person really can't hide or change easily because body language comes from who you are, what you believe in - as in how you react to others. The surprising thing is, many women equate b!t@hiness as a way to show that they're equal. I am just shocked sometimes at how b!t@hy they can be sometimes (and no I am not saying this to be mean or racist, and no I am not talking about every white woman out there, but it’s something that I have witnessed a lot). However, I see it as a sign of still being suppressed because white men, the least suppressed group alive, don't act like that. Another reason why I am not a fan of western feminism is that I feel like white women, a lot of them, are mentally brainwashed to be a certain way. All you have to do is go to a typical American campus to see what I mean. And also, I feel like western feminism sexualized everything to a point that now everything is about sex, sex, sex. And the worst thing about it is they are taking that message everywhere as if it is a good thing. At the end of the day, I feel like western interference has weakened African feminism and are mainly to blame for the condition of many African women now. during and after colonialism, the western sexist ways were enforced on Africans: men were given privileges and authority while the women were ignored; so when I read about white diplomats talking about the deplorable condition of African women, its just proof of how hypocritical white people can be!! |
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Babylon
Sweden
691 Posts |
Posted - 04 Mar 2006 : 00:41:13
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I understand your anger Kassma, but you do use a lot of stereotypes when you describe white women as being submissive to men. That is the typical stereotype when black people describe white women.
There is always some debate on african forums going on why black men are with white women, why white/black women are like this or that. There really is a lot of hatred going on about things that should not be such big issues. We need to come together and accept our differences/similarities instead of this constant battle of who is the better woman. We are all women, we face the same problems in life, we give birth to our children and have troubles with our men every now and then, anything. We should realize that we are really not that different from eachother.
You know that there are stereotypes of black women too; aggressive, loud, rude, money hungry etc. Have you ever watched the Ricki Lake show?
That is exactly how african-american women are being described everytime you watch it.
One should always look further than just the generalization of a group, which is a awful way to see human beings and that only leads nowhere.
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kassma
334 Posts |
Posted - 04 Mar 2006 : 00:49:45
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Originally posted by Babylon
I understand your anger Kassma, but you do use a lot of stereotypes when you describe white women as being submissive to men. That is the typical stereotype when black people describe white women.
There is always some debate on african forums going on why black men are with white women, why white/black women are like this or that. There really is a lot of hatred going on about things that should not be such big issues. We need to come together and accept our differences/similarities instead of this constant battle of who is the better woman. We are all women, we face the same problems in life, we give birth to our children and have troubles with our men every now and then, anything. We should realize that we are really not that different from eachother.
You know that there are stereotypes of black women too; aggressive, loud, rude, money hungry etc. Have you ever watched the Ricki Lake show?
That is exactly how african-american women are being described everytime you watch it.
One should always look further than just the generalization of a group, which is a awful way to see human beings and that only leads nowhere.
the ricki lake show also showed other things about white women, however, i don't think i'm making stereotypes. of course i have mentioned that not all are like that but i will say most are, but that's jusr a part of their culture. everybody knows that. interacial dating, been there, done that, how anyone feels about it, i really don't care. does it bother me when black guys date white women, no, i date white men, i hope they don't have a problem with it either. i'm not racist, but facts are facts |
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Babylon
Sweden
691 Posts |
Posted - 04 Mar 2006 : 01:17:46
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Originally posted by kassma
I feel like western feminism sexualized everything to a point that now everything is about sex, sex, sex. And the worst thing about it is they are taking that message everywhere as if it is a good thing.
I agree on that there is a lot of sex everywhere here in the west. It´s really sickning to see all the sex everywhere you turn your head. "Sex and the city" was the most popular tv-show that showed being promiscuous is a good thing. (no worries about AIDS or nothing! new man every day if ya wanna be a hip 30-something...?)
The western media is all focused on sex sex and more sex, the fashion Everything. I´m really fed up with it.
But so are the feminists, the militant ones who drag down the big lingirie ads in the city or blow up Pornshops etc..
Not that I would recommend such crazy violent actions. There´s got to be better more reasonable ways to fight against our sexist society... |
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twinkly
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Mar 2006 : 11:11:25
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I absolutely agree with you Kassma!!
And please don't feel shy or scared to say what you really think.It is only the truth This is how we learn, if we then want to..... Ignoring is the best solution, if someone is out for trouble,(I sould've known )
I have to agree with you about the attitude and how difficult it is to change.After all, it is a life-long habit.I've been accused of bending myself for my husband when I talk about these things to whites, because I think they don't understand.But instead I am very proud because I see that it makes me a better person, having my emotions under control and not letting my mood out on just anybody.It is simply not fair.
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
3091 Posts |
Posted - 04 Mar 2006 : 11:32:01
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| Its a two way street. Does your husband bend to you too? Give and take......or is it all one way? If so that isnot a relationship! |
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twinkly
United Kingdom
190 Posts |
Posted - 04 Mar 2006 : 12:05:13
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No Gambiabev, I am a stupid little puppy
This is a typical sentence I hear all the time.My thoughts to this:
Many women don't appreciate their partner because they don't know his way of life and culture back home.To many, he doesn't adjust enough.This is because they don't know the culture and they don't see how much he changes from the way he does things at home.
If you don't know each others background quite well, it is a struggle because both have to be willing to learn and accept.
I refuse to accept that it is the bad African here in Europe who can't treat a woman right.None of these women see how much these men already bend themselves and many women just don't see or care to understand the differences between the cultures.(do I have to mention that there are good and bad everywhere?)
I have to stick up for the african men, because what I see from white women, is lack of understanding.........many many times.
Sorry, finally to your question,
yes he does
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
3091 Posts |
Posted - 04 Mar 2006 : 12:27:26
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| Glad to hear it! Are you the same age or is there a difference? |
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twinkly
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Mar 2006 : 12:38:54
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| Hmm, there is a slight difference.I am 27, he is 34. |
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