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Karamba
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 06 May 2007 : 14:30:16
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When they fall out down from the lofty towers of political influence, ex-presidents face the dark side of life with regretable repercusions especially those tyrants and dictators. Charles Taylor was powerful and now succumbed. Edi Amin was powerful but died in exile. Mobutu, Abacha, and many others died in ways they never imagined. For president Jammeh of Gambia, what do you think will be the most serious crimes he is answerable when he gets the exit? Will it be fair to have Jammeh killed before he gives proper account of his years in power? If the last coup attempt was to succeed, could there not be another Jammeh or worse? If you were tasked to prepare for Jammeh's trial when he falls out of power, what will the charge sheet read like? Be fair, don't let anger or passion dictate your judgment. The trial of Ex-President Jammeh begins. What is your say?
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Edited by - Karamba on 06 May 2007 18:26:57 |
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dbaldeh
USA
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Posted - 06 May 2007 : 21:38:34
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Brother Karamba, we hope Jammeh recognise he is on the wrong side of history before we get to his trial. It is never too late to repent and do what is right. We pray that the Lord he pretends to be a servant to cleans his heart and turn him into a decent leader who puts his people first.
Failure to heed to these rightful corrective actions, then Gambians will be prepared to tender our evidence against him come judgement day.
If I were to decide his faith, I will accord him the very justice he denied to thousands of Gambians. I will treat him like a human being and send him behind bars for a long time so he can realize this world is more than what he think it was. I will let him go through the same thing Charles Taylor is going through now.
It is never justified to kill someone just because he killed other people. There are so many ways we can make some of these people be the living examples of brutality. Future Gambian leaders need to be able to see the end of Jammeh's legacy. Saddam Hussien should have been kept in Jail for Iraqi children to withness the history of brutal dictators. Humans have short memory so therefore they need to be reminded by visiting these leaders and learning from their stories.
See once you eliminate someone they will never have the chance to tell their story, it is crucial that we hear from these people what they did to their fellow human beings. That is the best lesson we can probably give to our children. |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
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bread man
300 Posts |
Posted - 06 May 2007 : 21:45:10
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| Dream on my friends, If you are waiting for Jammeh to stand trial any time soon you are in for a long wait. |
It is the mark of intelligence to entertain an idea without accepting it. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 06 May 2007 : 22:13:44
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Bread Man,
What better way is there for Jammeh to be accorded the best provision of justice if he is not tried in a proper law court? Brother Baldeh is soft enough to offer Jammeh good time to let him reflect behind bars as opposed to sending him to the gallows as people of Iraq did Saddam. I am in total agreement with Baldeh. Are you against that idea? Do you want to subject Jammeh to brutal treatment when he stands trial? I am confident that many Gambians will pardon Jammeh for his wrongs. I for one would not want to see him killed as he ordered the killing of over one dozen students and took pride for burying Deyda Hydara six feet deep; something he promised from July 1994. "Any journalist who stands against my revolution will be buried six feet deep." So said Jammeh, and thus it came to be as in the case of Deyda Hydara. Are you happy that Jammeh kept his promise of burying perceived opponents six feet deep? Good people in Gambia will not want to see Jammeh killed. that is what I believe. What do you think, Bread Man? |
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Edited by - Karamba on 06 May 2007 23:36:48 |
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dbaldeh
USA
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Posted - 06 May 2007 : 22:57:27
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Originally posted by bread man
Dream on my friends, If you are waiting for Jammeh to stand trial any time soon you are in for a long wait.
Breadman, take a deep breath and reflect on your statement. Hopefully you will come to realize that no reign except that of Allah is ever lasting.
No matter how much you enjoy under Jammeh and his regime, you must prepare yourself for the inevitable - the end of Jammeh. Sooner or later a new chapter will be opened in the Gambia and no amount of denial can invalidate that truth.
Sometimes I truly feel sorry for those people who turn a blind eye for the injustices just because they are affiliated or enjoy some previlleges under Jammeh.
While you have the right to embrace Jammeh you will agree that no one absolutely deserves to be treated the way Jammeh is treating people under his regime.
Would you have made the same statement if your brother or sister was among the students massacred during the student demonstration?
Would you have made the same statement if your parents or love ones were arrested, humiliated and transfered from police station to police station without your knowledge?
Would you have made the same statement if your brother or sister a journalist was gunned down for execising his citizen rights to speak his/her mind?
Would you have made the same statement if your love one was infected with HIV and Jammeh expose them to the whole world?
How could you turn such a blind eye when so many of your fellow citizens suffers so much?
I would hope that you love your family the same way every Gambian does. If that is the case, then your statement is very unfortunate and it was made unconciously. Think, reflect, and relate before you outter such statements... God Bless |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
3091 Posts |
Posted - 06 May 2007 : 23:12:01
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dbaldeh I agree with you 100%. Infact as I read your posting I was crying for Gambia.
I would like to see the President in prison for life when he finally faces the injustices he has done. He can't escape forever. This is better than execution, because aslong as he lives he is a reminder for others.
Also I believe that if you kill someone (whatever the reason ) then you are no better than they are.
Noone should take a life. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 06 May 2007 : 23:44:20
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| There are thousands of Bread Men and Bred Women in Gambia whose survival and passion for favours they enjoy under Jammeh blind them to the open truth. It is the most unfortunate thing that so many people choose to swim in the blood of good citizens killed just to keep Jammeh in bad governance. There is no chance of escape, these crimes have to be subject to fair trial by competent judicial system. The next government will not be a government of wild beasts. We expect a humane government of Gambia; something Jammeh flatly fails to do. |
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bread man
300 Posts |
Posted - 07 May 2007 : 00:12:02
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| Well, first of all I do not in any way directly enjoy any favours by Jammeh or any member of his regime. I am a private citizen surviving on my own efforts and not affiliated to any government organ. The only thing I enjoy about jammeh is the developments we all enjoy. The death of those honourable Gambians was really sad, however I think making Jammeh responsible for all those attrocities is not just prejudice but unfair. I just feel it is my democratic right to be politically affiliated to any party, in this case, Jammeh´s party. |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 May 2007 : 00:38:38
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Bread man you have the right to be afilliated to any political party you choose. These rants from Karamba are quite tiresome and boring. Karamba is acting out a fantasy with his over extended ego professig that he has the power to put Jammeh behind bars, as he posts comfortably from the UK. If this champion anti-Jammehite had any balls at all he would go to State House himself and lay these accusations at Jammeh's door but alias his banta is like an empty barrel making lots of noise because it is full of nothing just empty air!
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Edited by - Sister Omega on 07 May 2007 00:41:56 |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 07 May 2007 : 00:43:00
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Bread Man,
Not enjoying DIRECTLY!! To put it simpler, here is how it is correct saying that Jammeh is responsible of ALL atrocities in Gambia since he seized power through a coup. Every sitting government is required to create a safe environment for those in the country under their custody. We all know that a huge cut of the Gambia's tiny budget goes to serve SECURITY demands. Yet people in Gambia are least secured. We hear the president saying openly his readiness to kill and it comnes to happen. How do you interpret these? These are not blank accusations. The president says 'I will', and next comes an event matching the president's threats. It is reasonable to accept that the president is serious about killing his perceived enemies. Those who follow his wish to have the ENEMIES eliminated know better than you imagine.
About developments brought by Jammeh!!!! Hmmmm. What is the meaning of developing a nation after setting the Finance Minister on fire? Even after Jammeh, Gambians once assured of safety and security will have their hard-earned funds used on what they want to develop. Jammeh is destroying the Gambia at a speed faster than the socalled development we hear thousand times. During Jammeh's trial as Ex-President, Gambians will want many questions answered on these killing and all the conomic crimes. Perhaps competent people like you Bread Man will be in better position to defend him. For now he is responsible up to the moment he is docked on trial. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 07 May 2007 : 00:52:44
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Sister Omega or Angel of the higher skies,
When will you grow to be gentle? You can never get my nerve ends with whatever sulky accumulation of bad words. Instead, you expose yourself to the very good brains reading the types of words baked in your skull. What you write is music. Carry on. Who are you to put your heavy foot in front of Gambian jails stopping Jammeh take his rest to await justice? Have a life. I have nothing against Jammeh but hate to see any beast destroying the land and people of Gambia. |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 May 2007 : 00:55:06
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KARAMBA GET OVER IT! JAMMEH SEIZED POWER BY COUP THEN GOT ELECTED BACK INTO POWER 3 TIMES! NOW WHAT IS IT YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND???????
You profess to know about Gambian Politics but since you've been posting your stale postings here with nothing but negative statements about Gambia. You seem to be out of touch or you are trying whip up instability in Gambia through posting so much B.S all the time!!!
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 07 May 2007 : 01:17:03
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If that is your gut feeling, take full pride in your opinion. You naming my views negative is up to you. I have no power to stop you thinking the way you do. If I was on the move to spark fire in Gambia, so many good Gambians would have detected that and nothing stops them from bouncing on me. Over Bantaba, countless good persons have the word power to respond anyone seeking spark fire on Gambian soil. Baldeh, Santanfara, Gambiabev, Momodou, Nyarikang Banna, Ebou4, Kobo, and many more readers and contributors are no lesser minds to allow anyone escape with fire cracking views. |
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salimina
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Posted - 07 May 2007 : 01:41:23
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Sister,
I really understand you.You cannot feel as none of your relatives has been butchered by jilanka and none of them has been under the oppression of jammeh.
So say what you feel like. I wish it is jamaica then you will have sense.You can rant, surely one day we will get jammeh. |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 07 May 2007 : 02:16:21
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Karamba, with all due respect this posting is like putting the cart before horse. I think what we should be looking into now is how to remove Jammeh and his APRC from the seat of power in The Gambia. As advocated here before, its a multi-faceted issue. We should design approaches as to how to educate the masses and how do we in the diaspora empower them. It maybe a journey of a thousand mile but if we dnt plan carefully we are planning to fail like Jawara and Jammeh gov'ts. We should avoid at this point in time to be posting things that have tendencies to be seen as vengeful or hate stuff.
In my opinion most of ur postings are directed to the person of Jammeh, which i think is mis-placed. The wrongs perpetrated on the Gambians are not done by Jammeh unilaterally. He has accomplices.
I have friends and relatives who have directly suffered the wrongs of the AFPRC/APRC, but that does not make me lose my head and cry for Jammeh's blood. For example, some of my people were in the Army wen they were framed in the 11th nov 94 and march 2006 attempted coups. Soldiers report or implicate their colleagues during times like these. Can you blame Jammeh for an individual soldier's stupidity? As am writing my in-law is jailed and the wife is totally distressed as the rest of the family.
So we must act with tact at all times. |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 07 May 2007 : 02:35:12
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| aleast madis aggree with your take on my learneded friend karamba's trail of jammeh. it is a bit early in the day. but that shouldn't stop us dabating what mode of judgement we wish for him .this will also give yahya an indication of how some gambians feel about his barbarity. i knew a secretary whose husband was killed in the november 11 ,this lady nearly went dumb. she hardly speaks now a days. as for basiru ,i am a close friend to the family . yahya made us bitter but he is not the all and all ,he has his backers. |
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