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Nation of Islam and Rastafari are politically motivated and created by systems and eras of supremacy against Blacks or between Whites and Blacks (RACISM!).

Nation of Islam is not un-islamic and contradicts ISLAM, injuctions and "sunna" of Prophet Muhamad (s.a.w). Its leaders are intellectuals from Black race and politicise on Islam and Rastafari as religions of Black roots. However Nation of Islam and Rastafari were good initiates and a good direction for the oppressed to count on spiritual power and hope (GOD!). Nation of Islam are with millions of muslims though, as testimonies to the belief of saying of the "Sahaada" i.e. "THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD CALLED ALLAH AND MUHAMD IS HIS PROPHET. They pay homage and chant IN THE NAME OF ALLAH; i.e "takbirr" = Allaahu akbarr; "Shikarr" = Praise singing of "Laa ill laaha ill lal laa", discipline themselves and they living decent life. Therefore followers of Nation of Islam are decent people. Its important to clarify and do justice to Islam and what it represents to MANKIND!
I repeat that Nation of Islam is UN-ISLAMIC and totally contradicts ISLAM (A UNIVERSAL RELIGION OF PEACE AND FOR ALL MANKIND!); with any perception of sagregation and RASCISM. The holy quran is a letter addressed to "Yaa banni Adam", not to the Arabs, Jews, Blacks or whites etc.

"Yaa banni Adam = You children of Adam"

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I don´t agree with you on this one, I think it´s wrong to teach people that Islam is for black people only. Therefore I totally disagree with Nation of Islam. They teach the wrong teachings and I think it´s a disgrace against Islam and give non muslims the wrong picture of the religion, which already is misunderstood by so many.

Let me quote a few words from Urban dictionary: "2. nation of islam

Black nationalist movement that is as different from Islam as night is from day. These people are not true Muslims. For example, they don't believe that Muhammad (S) was the last prophet. In fact, their founder Louis Farrakhan is regarded by the NOI as a Prophet. Also, in Islam you are supposed to be tolerant. The NOI hate white people and want segregation. In short and are actually just racist ******s who are not Muslims. They only use the Islamic jargon.

Nation of Islam members should study actual Islam instead of the garbage that Louis Farrakhan introduced. They should follow Malcom X's example."

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Nation of Islam and Rastafari are politically motivated and created by systems and eras of supremacy against Blacks or between Whites and Blacks (RACISM!).

"Nation of Islam is not un-islamic and contradicts ISLAM",

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Originally posted by Sister Omega

Cornelius your statements are unfounded. Rastafarianism is not Anti-Islamic. Why are you painting the Nation of Islam and Rastafarism with the same brush?

As Momodou as highlighted that you have strayed of the point about Marcus Garvey's relevance. Yes Marcus has inspired many African people in different ways fundamentally he pointed out the contributions Africans have made to the world before the advent of racism. As a Africans were deemed completely powerless at the time of his writing he refuted that claim by referring to our presence and influence within the Bible and beyond as the first Human beings on the planet which is now scientifically proven. Therefore Africans have contributed to Arts and Sciences. He advocated for the empowerment of African race starting from the individual, family. community,nation, and continent. Highlighting the point of us getting to know who we are as a people who know where we come from so we know where we are going to. Everybody needs to know that unfortunately what other races may take for granted is what a lot of Africans have been denied.

Malcolm X's father was a follower of Garvey and he preached that Africans were human beings with human rights. He house was set alight and he was pinned down to a railway track by the KKK and killed by a train.As a result of this Malcolm mother went mad and her children were taken into care. Malcolm was indoctrined into thinking that he would only be capable of working with his hands and not his brains. When entering prison on a felony because he was dating a Caucasian Woman at the time he received a longer sentence. Within the time of being incarcerated he joined the Nation of Islam who taught him about being aware of his blackness. Malcolm was an inspired individual who was manipulated by certain members of the organisation which glorified Elijah Muhammed but it was Malcolm who inspired people to join the organisation in the 60's. The nation of Islam was defend itself against racial attacks it was a disciplined force at the height of Jimcrow and deep repression under the system of segregation. I suppose it was the backlash against christainity which was the philosophy used to enslave Africans too often being seen as oppressive yet expecting its victims to be pacifists. That turned a lot of African Americans to the Nation of Islam. But it was after the assassination of J>F kennedy and the latter revelations of Elijah Muhammad being an adulturer that Malcolm found out tjat the man he'd but his faith in was not infalliable,that he released that he'd been mislead. And that indeed his faith had been mislead into worshipping a man inside of worshipping Allah himself. Hence his trip to Egypt and Mecca and learning more Islam and not a pseudo christainity Islam.

Now I am not going to condemn the Nation of Islam for their beliefs for they are entitled to believe in who and what they want to. So are the rest of the world. I believe that there is only one Creator and different peoples call him/her by different names.And too often religious belief's are used as a political tool by unscrupulous people to manipulate people for selfish gains of power and greed using divide and rule tactics.

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Sister Omega

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