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ncompasstraining
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 Posted - 15 Jan 2006 : 23:37:18
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Hi everyone
New to the site, and I've been reading posts with interest for weeks.
I'm trustee of a volunteer programme working in Gambia, and visited twice last year, the second time with a group of young people from. We have made great friends there, and we plan on returning every few months this year.
I've got a few concerns, mainly political, about one of the villages we are working in. The villagers have welcomed us warmly, but I am a bit confused by the politics, and I am worried that my concerns probably derive from my ignorance. Anyways...what I was wondering was if someone would be willing to enter into a private conversation with me, so that I could share some concerns and hopefully get some clarity. Cheers
Suryiah
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Momodou
Denmark
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Posted - 18 Jan 2006 : 18:38:57
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Originally posted by ncompasstraining
Hi everyone
New to the site, and I've been reading posts with interest for weeks.
I'm trustee of a volunteer programme working in Gambia, and visited twice last year, the second time with a group of young people from Wales. We have made great friends there, and we plan on returning every few months this year.
This is a very good iniative and one way to combart racism. Grade 10 students and their teachers from Helsingør (Elsinor) Lille Skole in Denmark have visited kuntaur Upper Basic School in CRD every year since November 1997. It has always been an educating life time experience for both Danes and their Gambian counterparts.
I have a few photos from some of the visits and articles text in Danish at:
Photos 2000: http://home3.inet.tele.dk/mcamara/billeder_hls2000.htm
Helsingør Lille Skoles besøg til Kuntaur Upper Basic School - 2003 http://home3.inet.tele.dk/mcamara/ktr2003/frameset.htm
Mødet med det "rigtige" Afrika http://www.djembe.dk/no/23/18mmdra.html
Afrikas stærke arme http://www.djembe.dk/no/25/20asa.html
En dag i Afrika http://www.djembe.dk/no/24/24edia.html |
A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone |
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sab
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 Jan 2006 : 00:53:57
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You seem very very familar to me, are you working in Bantajima? and the trustee of www.thegambiapartnership.co.uk (Scottish Organisation) with a mission that goes; We are basically using sport as a means of reaching the unsaved; those that do not belong to the family of Christ, to make sure that the lost ones come to Christ. Kids games is a valued bible sports program intended for children aged 4 to 12 and 13 to 19. It amazing, I believe that it’s the lord that is convicting them. I know that The Gambia will be transformed with the word of God through the sport ministry and Gambia will be for Christ and not for Mohammed."
www.gambiapartnership.co.uk Forum/Update our plans |
The world would be a poorer place if it was peopled by children whose parents risked nothing in the cause of social justice, for fear of personal loss. (Joe Slovo - African revolutionary) |
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Momodou
Denmark
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Posted - 20 Jan 2006 : 01:41:39
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Wow, thats a strong statement and very ambitious! So they are coming to save Gambia from Mohammed Thanks for the information about the website Sab. I thought it was a school that has a link with another school in The Gambia just like the Danes I wrote about above. |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 Jan 2006 : 08:19:58
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As a humanist I find the evangelical approach very offensive.
Bible in one hand, aid in the other.
Whatever help people are giving in the Gambia should be given without strings and from the heart with love and compassion.
The Christian faith doesnt belong in Africa.......but then neither does Islam. Perhaps Gambia would be a better place without religion?
If people thought they were free to make their own good fortune and only had this life, with no heaven to look forward to. ....... PERHAPS people would be more proactive instead of waiting to see what Gods will is???? |
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Babylon
Sweden
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Posted - 20 Jan 2006 : 08:49:38
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The one trying to convert muslims to christians will surely not succeed no matter how hard they try,  I just don´t see that happen. That´s redicilous to even try. No religion can compare with Islam. However, I think that religion should always be ones personal choice and should never be forced on anyone.
Also, religion is not what holds Gambians back. Just take a quick look at the rich arabic, muslim countries -U.A.E for example. Religion didn´t make them less successful!
What holds Africa back is the lack of good leadership. |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
3091 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jan 2006 : 14:20:13
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| Perhaps Gambia having its own university will create a home grown middle class which will stay in Gambia in become the leaders of the future? |
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Tairema
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Posted - 20 Jan 2006 : 14:55:41
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Sab, I signed your guestbook. Hope you will take this words to heart....
Oh, and BTW Why do you have to use sport to cover up your real intentions?
Is your version of Christianity so wicked that it can not be told plainly as that would not attract annyone? |
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Babylon
Sweden
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Posted - 20 Jan 2006 : 15:21:35
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Originally posted by gambiabev
Perhaps Gambia having its own university will create a home grown middle class which will stay in Gambia in become the leaders of the future?
But I thought all along that there already is a university in Serrekunda, UTG -University of the Gambia...? Atleast from what I´ve heard. Correct me if I´m wrong. |
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sab
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 Jan 2006 : 15:46:03
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| Greetings Tairema, think you have misunderstood, I'm disgusted with the whole underhanded issue of www.thegambiapartnership.co.uk There are eighteen of these people in The Gambia from November 05 for six months around Serrekunda & Bakoteh. It was first brought to the attention of this bantaba in mid October. I have been back into the site & guest book, nice one! Freedom & peace. |
The world would be a poorer place if it was peopled by children whose parents risked nothing in the cause of social justice, for fear of personal loss. (Joe Slovo - African revolutionary) |
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Tairema
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Posted - 20 Jan 2006 : 16:22:09
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Forgive me Sab! Ik thought you were promoting the whole sad thing!
Let's all make a clear but polite quote in their guestbook...to show them that the poor "lost" Gambians they set out to save from damnation are in fact not born yesterday and do not need some isolated Scottish zellous fanatics teaching our kids lies through sport.
They sound like the Scottish version of Al Q'eida, forcing people into their religion and all! |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 Jan 2006 : 16:53:04
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This Scottish group sounds like WAKO all over again. By the way if my memory serves me right faith groups setting up projects need to register with the Gambian government. This group sounds intolerant lacking respect for Islam so why the hell do they think they have a right to set up a church/school promoting religious intolerance. Their asses need to be monitored because Gambia doesn't need any mass suicides or people inciting religious violence.
If they want to convert people to Christ why don't they go and preach their gospel to the poor inner city folk of Glasgow, and help them turn away from alcohol, herione, E's and crack etc.
ncompasstraining your mission is 600 years too late it failed miserably the first time around and is bound too this time around.
And why are you asking about the authorities have you got something to hide or another sinister agenda?
Your organisation aims are too enslave the Gambian mind not to liberate it. If this is the case then it will be relegated to the dustbin where it belongs. And for the record Muslims do know about Christ for he is mentioned in the Q'uran maybe you should read the Q'uran before you criticise it.
Alternatively you could go to Afganistan,Iraq, Pakistan and Iran. I'm sure this would be a great challenge for you to test your perservence by in preaching the Gospel or is that part of the world too hot for your organisation. After all such a challenge would indeed test your faith wouldn't it??? 
Peace
Sister Omega
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Babylon
Sweden
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Posted - 20 Jan 2006 : 18:32:14
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I agree with u Sister Omega, WELLSAID!!  And good idea Tairema, let´s all sign in their guestbook in protest! |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 Jan 2006 : 18:42:19
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Babylon, yes there is already a university...but it takes awhile for these people to work throught the system and get established. It is my sincere hope that more teachers will be trained so that Gambian students have more role models that are Gambia. Rather than other African countries providing the teachers (Nigeria etc)
It is my understanding that the university is slowly expanding..which has to be a good thing. |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 Jan 2006 : 19:29:09
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ncompasstraining
Can you confirm if you are part of the scottish group? I am confused as in your original posting you said you took welsh pupils to Gambia.
Can you tell us more about the work you do out in Gambia, which places you visit etc?
Also can you explain how this links to your faith and what the objects of your work in Gambia are? THEN I WILL JUDGE YOU! |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
3091 Posts |
Posted - 20 Jan 2006 : 19:33:17
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Sister Omega
In uk evangelical church is still quite small...but growing. It tends to go against our conservative nature...all that happy clappy stuff! But most members of the church tend to be well educated middle class, 'nice' people...but very misguided!
To accuse them of being like Al'Q'eida is outrageous.
You also say they are inciting religious violence in Gambia...what evidence do you have of that? It is a very serious accusation to make without evidence.
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