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jambo



3300 Posts

Posted - 21 Jul 2006 :  21:25:31  Show Profile Send jambo a Private Message
kons you crack me up, i think you took the job and are still there
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 21 Jul 2006 :  21:30:54  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
No the funny thing is i cannot afford my GELE GEleh fare from Yoro Bawol to Banjul. Can you give me a ride and i will give you half of my first months salaryas minister for Reconverting Lost Pals and Reconciliation
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rah



117 Posts

Posted - 21 Jul 2006 :  22:36:19  Show Profile Send rah a Private Message
Damn it! That's what they are paid to do, better education, higher standard of living, good governance, rule of law, respect for human rights, freedom of association, but not one TV station to humiliate the opposition. Liar Jammeh is fake, period. yeh,rah
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mbay

Germany
1007 Posts

Posted - 22 Jul 2006 :  01:07:04  Show Profile Send mbay a Private Message
As i once said the old regime was a pure cold dictators real brain washer and this should not be a new interrogatory to them, because according to the history the Gambia has a long of intelligent Brains since before the era of a Takrur age in 9th and 10th centuries AD. and not just in the 1962/1963 to February 18, 1965,.
Yes i also remember that my mother need to please my brother to let me get my advantage of studding in Banjul(what we soon find out was that it is just to ankle not even to the knees) because the whole schools infractures in Basse as second capital of the country was nothing but empty-ugly buildings. in fact i should not need to call it a schools .there was not even a radio station
By now i will not called our villages as pivotal point but have none stop electricity's a full equipement hospital as well as school where boys and girls are all welcoming in plus their our own police which is working very closed to general police in Basse. these are mostly from our self but thanks to the new regime with their right hand on it because their have very interest of development this country.
So the Gm was having only radio Gambia as public radio station and that was fully controlled by the PPP.remember that? and one old man a II world war veterinary from my village as saying in that time, that this is not radio Gambia but radio Jawara /PPP.
So the problems with the old regime is inactively , that's why we said let's learn from the past and catch up to the future!.

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Originally posted by kajaw

Kondorong,

Sure there are good things that are attributable to the regeme but one must not use that as a measure of whether a regeme deserves to be in power.

1. I never understood why for over 30 years, the jawara regeme was content with only 5 high schools creating two classes of students. I moved from Badibu to banjul just to go to school and i had class mates who were living with relatives in banjul and kombo in horrible conditions. Improvements in the education system from highschool to university are something that can be attributable to the regeme. I had to go to Ghana for my college education because there was no 4 year college in gambia.
2. Improvements in healthcare are also notable.

So ther are somethings one could highlight as improvements. However, we all know that Adolf Hitlar brought back Germany from the brinks to a Super power in a short time. However, that never justified the horrors he metted on the rest of the world. We all know that until resently, zimbabwe had one of the highest levels of literacy in Africa. Much of it attributable to Mugabi. Yet in very short order, he destroyed his country in a cloud of smoke. Regemes must be judged not only on their short term archivements, they have to be judged by the lasting effects of their reign. All the infrastructure Sadam built has been distroyed due to his folly

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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 23 Jul 2006 :  22:40:57  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
I think its also important o promote democratic structures for the common good of its citizens and political maturity as under http://allafrica.com/stories/200607210978.html

Edited by - kobo on 23 Jul 2006 22:46:04
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 23 Jul 2006 :  22:58:08  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by kondorong

I hope to some reserach on this topic. I believe that there are lot of good things that the party has done and should be brought to the fore.

Please respect other peoples views.



Kons don't you think there are more negatives and lack of accountability under APRCs stewardship I wish to reiterate that most of those projects bearing fruits were the homework (consultancies of databank of projects) of PPP regime compiled under a comprehensive world bank and UNDP programmes towards demise of their era and highjacked by 1981 coup. Massive funds flow to the Gambia under APRC than PPP and corruption, including lack of transparency more rampant under APRC to outweigh any infrastructures generated or positives deemed to have been achieved.

Is this another clandestine celebration or paying tribute kind of for July 22 or are you using your intellectual capacity and potentials to sniff entrance of the clique that enjoys more priviledges under APRC than others. Am suspicious of: "If you cannot beat them join them"

Respect other peoples wiewspoints

Edited by - kobo on 23 Jul 2006 23:05:28
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 24 Jul 2006 :  18:13:49  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by kobo

quote:
Originally posted by kondorong

I hope to some reserach on this topic. I believe that there are lot of good things that the party has done and should be brought to the fore.

Please respect other peoples views.



Kons don't you think there are more negatives and lack of accountability under APRCs stewardship I wish to reiterate that most of those projects bearing fruits were the homework (consultancies of databank of projects) of PPP regime compiled under a comprehensive world bank and UNDP programmes towards demise of their era and highjacked by 1981 coup. Massive funds flow to the Gambia under APRC than PPP and corruption, including lack of transparency more rampant under APRC to outweigh any infrastructures generated or positives deemed to have been achieved.

Is this another clandestine celebration or paying tribute kind of for July 22 or are you using your intellectual capacity and potentials to sniff entrance of the clique that enjoys more priviledges under APRC than others. Am suspicious of: "If you cannot beat them join them"
Respect other peoples wiewspoints



can you be more explicit. You speak in parables
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Rainbow



Gambia
114 Posts

Posted - 24 Jul 2006 :  18:41:25  Show Profile Send Rainbow a Private Message
Kondorong! Kondorong!! Kondorong!!! how many times did i call you I saw your file at PMO as a new SOS for external affairs!!!
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 24 Jul 2006 :  18:54:18  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
KOndorong to clarify, do you have any interests serving the APRC or are you preparing yourself to join them or brace yourself hopefully post-election and eminent victory for them Am suspicious of certain moves as being solicited and good luck!
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 24 Jul 2006 :  19:07:46  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by kobo

KOndorong to clarify, do you have any interests serving the APRC or are you preparing yourself to join them or brace yourself hopefully post-election and eminent victory for them Am suspicious of certain moves as being solicited and good luck!



Kondorong please ignore those questions because I believed I went off-track and apologise questioning your integrity under APRC government as a defender (in defence of APRC). Your opinions are highly appreciated and accepted in good faith. Thanks.

Edited by - kobo on 24 Jul 2006 19:08:36
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 24 Jul 2006 :  20:47:04  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by kobo

KOndorong to clarify, do you have any interests serving the APRC or are you preparing yourself to join them or brace yourself hopefully post-election and eminent victory for them Am suspicious of certain moves as being solicited and good luck!



I have no intentions. However, to be fair and balance, we need to also see the positive developments in the gambia. I feel we should be objective and support where they do well and also show our displeasuer where we feel we can improve on. FAIR AND BALANCE SHOULD BE A GUIDING PRINCIPLE IN OUR EVERYDAY DEALINGS.
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 24 Jul 2006 :  20:48:20  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by kobo

KOndorong to clarify, do you have any interests serving the APRC or are you preparing yourself to join them or brace yourself hopefully post-election and eminent victory for them Am suspicious of certain moves as being solicited and good luck!



wELL THEY WILL WIN THE NEXT ELECTIONS. tHAT IS A CERTAINTY.
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 24 Jul 2006 :  20:51:14  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
One major weakness in our democracy is our unwillingness to embrace the opposing side even if they do something good. I intend to depart from that but make no mistake that i will call to order if i feel some corrections are needed. We are all human and political office can be a serious challange to all of us.
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 24 Jul 2006 :  20:56:29  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Rainbow

Kondorong! Kondorong!! Kondorong!!! how many times did i call you I saw your file at PMO as a new SOS for external affairs!!!



Unfortunately you saw nothing. PMO does not appoint Secretaries of State. In fact PMO does not appoint anyone. The Public Service Commission does. PMO is not a memeber of the commission.The commission is appointed by the President.PMO only conveys decisions of the commission. Only Civil Servants from Grade 2 and upwards are appointed at the commission. daily paid and grade 1 officeres are appointed at ministries and departments.

Rainbow, may be you saw something different. Secreatary of States are appointed by the president under the relevant provisions of the constitution. It does not require concurrence of the PMO or the Public Service Commission. Public servants are appointed by provision of the Public Service Act and the Public Service Commission regulations in force at the time.

Secretaries of State are not Public servants and therefore do not fall under the provisons of the Public Service Comission Regulations or Public service Act. Only government employees who fall under these provisions have their case handled at the PMO or the Publlic service commission. Ministers are political appointees. I am not even sure if the provisions of the Pensions Act is aplicable to them.

I GOT YA

Edited by - kondorong on 24 Jul 2006 21:09:04
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Rainbow



Gambia
114 Posts

Posted - 25 Jul 2006 :  11:36:51  Show Profile Send Rainbow a Private Message
Hey Kondonrong – I was only pulling your legs but thanks for enlightens! hope i didn't offend you

Edited by - Rainbow on 25 Jul 2006 11:37:20
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