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kassma

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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 22:06:33
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quote: Originally posted by gambiabev
Alhassan, why do you think aids is affecting Africa more? Because of lack of good screening? lack of good drugs for treatment? general health and malnutrition? Or is the most important fact that because it originated in Africa it got a strong hold there before people realised what was happening.
Knowledge and Education gives people an informed choice. They know then what they should do.
its not lack of anything, once you have it, you have it, how can aids be caused by lack of health. there is no proof that it originated in africa, if it originated in africa, then how come the first news of it came for western countries? its amazing what the west tries to claim from africa and blame on africa, its amazing. |
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sab

United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 22:08:31
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Kons, we must assume those wicked needles are used no more, they must have been used until blunt. BUT todays syringe type, wherever you might be; In the process of injecting a drug, blood often enters both the needle and the syringe. If the syringe and needle are then shared with someone else, that person will inject any blood that has stayed behind in the equipment, along with the drug. Hence the problems with drug users sharing / and some countries where hospitals & clinics use the syringe & needle more that once. Try and obtain THREE of your own and carry them with you, always. regards, sab.
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The world would be a poorer place if it was peopled by children whose parents risked nothing in the cause of social justice, for fear of personal loss. (Joe Slovo - African revolutionary) |
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Sister Omega

United Kingdom
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 22:14:38
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Yes Serenata, I have often thought how lucky I was not to have the blood transfusion because you are right it could of easily been me.
When AIDS first hit the headlines in 1980's the focus was on Uganda being the place where the diease originated from. Ironically 10 years later it was reported in the press that the majority of people who they thought had AIDS had Malaria and revovered from it. Two years ago some Ethiopian friends of mine informed me that there were incidences of AIDs breaking out in Ethiopia once people had been given immunisations by NGO's and the local people were suspicious of them, and stopped having them done. This was supported by a Health Worker in a HIV/AIDs Programme he was speaking out against the correlation between Immunisation programmes and AIDS. He was based in England and subsequently died under mysterious circumstances last year.
Another concern of my friends was the indiscriminate way that condoms where being given to peoplein Ethiopia without explaining to them how to wear them. One of my friends commented that some of the rural people thought that they could wear them like a pendent around their necks to ward off evil spirits. It just goes to show that if condoms are going to be given to communities by NGO's they should at least put on workshops to explain to the local population on how to use them.
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kassma

334 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 22:20:16
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quote: Originally posted by sab
Greetings, The Condom - Religion exerts a strong influence on HIV education projects worldwide. Islamic fundamentalism in parts of Africa and the Arab Middle East has often led to Aids prevention work receiving a low priority in order to avoid offending the sensibilities of Muslim society, i.e. extra-marital sex, prostitution and homosexuality are unacceptable, while condoms may be used ONLY for family planning purposes. Thus HIV prevention campaigns avoid any discussion of SAFER SEX; they focus instead on chastity, and fidelity within marriage. Religious doctrine may often undermine rather than facilitate the efforts of HIV educators. Despite figures being released by the WHO before a visit by the late Pope John Paul 11 on a tour in Africa, he announced his opposition to the use of condoms for HIV prevention, stating that they would only encourage 'the very behaviour which has greatly contributed to the expansion of the disease, as has the present Pope Joseph Ratzinger… Millions will loose their lives to HIV/AIDS, and millions could be saved through an extensive education programme of which should be included the - Mother to baby transmission, passing on from mother to infant by breastfeeding, the receiving of blood products, spilled body fluids, sterilising hospital equipment, infection control, dealing with waste disposal, needle stick injuries. So you see the 'promiscuous' females are only a small part of a very large problem.
About five years ago the prostitutes of The Gambia made international medical news. Reports from the MRC/Fajara re the 'real prostitutes' who were BEING MONITORED after providing a positive test had been found to have produced immunity. An exciting find in the scientific world of medicine. It goes that all is not lost in their profession. The President as Chairman of the National Aids Council, programme stated that the ‘Kanilai magic water’ that was for sale in Banjul earlier this year would help in the cure of AIDS, amongst other diseases - what an absolute winner for the electoral vote! (If it was needed) This statement spread like wildfire among the less educated and in my opinion was disastrous to the trainers in the clinic’s trying their utmost to educate the communities in HIV/AIDS. He should have been committed to a positive speech for a long term extensive education for all over twelve years of age - taking a lesson from South & East Africa, knowing full well it is moving at speed and getting to close for complacency.
sab, might you have the link for this article, i'm stunned, i thought you had to have immunity before getting it for it to count. |
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Sister Omega

United Kingdom
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kondorong

Gambia
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Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 23:38:33
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quote: Originally posted by Sister Omega
Yes Serenata, I have often thought how lucky I was not to have the blood transfusion because you are right it could of easily been me.
When AIDS first hit the headlines in 1980's the focus was on Uganda being the place where the diease originated from. Ironically 10 years later it was reported in the press that the majority of people who they thought had AIDS had Malaria and revovered from it. Two years ago some Ethiopian friends of mine informed me that there were incidences of AIDs breaking out in Ethiopia once people had been given immunisations by NGO's and the local people were suspicious of them, and stopped having them done. This was supported by a Health Worker in a HIV/AIDs Programme he was speaking out against the correlation between Immunisation programmes and AIDS. He was based in England and subsequently died under mysterious circumstances last year.
Another concern of my friends was the indiscriminate way that condoms where being given to peoplein Ethiopia without explaining to them how to wear them. One of my friends commented that some of the rural people thought that they could wear them like a pendent around their necks to ward off evil spirits. It just goes to show that if condoms are going to be given to communities by NGO's they should at least put on workshops to explain to the local population on how to use them.
Peace
Sister Omega
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
3091 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 23:40:05
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Sister Omega. Please dont give publicity to such rubbish!!! |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
3091 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 23:42:43
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Kassama
Hiv is caused by infection due to unsafe sex or needle sharing, but the progression of the illness to aids is caused by many factors: lack of drugs, healthy diet, etc.... |
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Sister Omega

United Kingdom
2085 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 23:58:37
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Elaborate on what you are referring too Gambiabev. |
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kondorong

Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 00:03:50
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AIDS IS A DISEASE OF THE POOR UNFORTUNATELY. IT SEEMS ONLY THE POOR ARE SERIOUSLY DYING OF IT. RICH PEOPLE WHO CAN AFFORD DRUGS, BETTER DIET STILL CONTINUE NORMAL LIVES SOMETIMES BETTER THAN THOSE WITHOUT THE DISEASE. |
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Newfy

Western Samoa
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Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 01:56:03
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And death is the great equalizer -- everyone who gets HIV/AIDS despite their survival rate for those with resources, sad for some, they leave this life too early and very often stigmatized by family, friends and loved ones. If they are fortunate, they have a support system of people who accept them as they are. |
The law an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Mohandas Gandhi |
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Alhassan
Sweden
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Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 08:49:43
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quote: Originally posted by kondorong
AIDS IS A DISEASE OF THE POOR UNFORTUNATELY. IT SEEMS ONLY THE POOR ARE SERIOUSLY DYING OF IT. RICH PEOPLE WHO CAN AFFORD DRUGS, BETTER DIET STILL CONTINUE NORMAL LIVES SOMETIMES BETTER THAN THOSE WITHOUT THE DISEASE.
Sister, Aids does not know colour. It does not discreminate. Even the rich people you are talking about die of Aids. Where were you when most famous musicians both from the US, Europe and Africa died of Aids? You seem to have your own cnoviction different from others. Try to update your information. If you live in Britain, I suggest you contact the infection clinic in your area to get facts. If you live in London, there is a strong Hiv/Aids movement in Hackney. Contact them for more information please. I am sorry if I have hurt you with what I have written, but facts are facts. We must do away with statements. Such ideas had people in Africa. In stead of trying to find a remedy we concentraited on accusing others, until every thing was late. In these days of HIV/AIDS we must try to join hands to find a cure. |
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Sister Omega

United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 10:15:15
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Alhassan
You completely misunderstand what I am saying. I know HIV/AIDS is a serious problem and the sooner we can find a cure to it the better. Let me clarify my point I was trying to make before, don't shoot the messenger. This account was given to me 2004 when some Ethiopian friends of mine were visiting me on vacation of some of their experiences of HIV/AIDS Programmes in Ethiopia. These are not my words.
The couple's have neighbours have been married for 5 years and the woman was diagnoised with AIDS and her husband has been having unprotected sex with her and has not caught the diease.
They also noticed a correlation between people ben given immunisations and more reported cases of AIDS which resulted in the local population refusing to have these immunisations from international donor agencies.
On Ethiopian TV they had saw a programme where remote Ethiopian villages where given boxes of condoms thrown from planes, and were given no instructions on how to use them. Not knowing where they should go they used them as fashion acessories or as talismans to ward of evil spirits which they think the diease is. Let me repeat this is the experience of my Ethiopian friends who live and work in Ethiopian not mime REPEAT!!!
Of course I was suprised to hear such statements and I think it is important that international HIV/AIDS are monitored and Evaluated properly to make sure that the end users benefit from the services they are supposed to be providing.
Complimentary medicine also has a place in boosting up the immune system along with appropriate nutrition to help to fight diease. Although these medicines may sound to simple to be of any use it is often the simple solutions which have a greater impact on serious problems.
Peace
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Edited by - Sister Omega on 18 Jul 2006 10:15:50 |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
3091 Posts |
Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 10:51:24
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I think it is very dangerous to suggest there is a cure out there with complementory things such as 'special waters'. It is laughable. |
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Sister Omega

United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Jul 2006 : 11:56:52
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It's laughable just shows how narrow a closed mind can be. But I suppose if it had made in UK on it it would be more realistic right! |
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