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Alhassan
Sweden
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 Posted - 14 Jul 2006 : 13:23:14
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Originally posted by Newfy
Thanks Kobo Mon Dieu! Its interesting he's -- Jammeh saying that the women and youth do all the work and the men nada... is that the case? Is this a divide and conquer strategy? Its not very respectful to say the least towards the people, the families.
Newfy,
You must be awear of this thurth. The Gambian men are not honest to their country. They are the most cruped ones I know. If you are looking for papers that you need for your compound or passport, you have to bribe the people you submit your forms to otherwise the papers can be there for donkey years without being treated. I have had hard times with civil servants for leasing my childrens plot since year 2000. All papers ask for are submited. When ever I ask I would be told soon they are ready. Most of us are tired of being treated this way in our own counrty.
Secondly I support the statement because the said people are not better than the farmers. Can our mothers and sisters go out and clean, so must our fathers, uncles and brothers do the same thing.
Most of you in opposition of what happens in the Gambia have no knoledge of it. We have to find out properly before saying anything. Remember I have had a bad experience before leaving Gambia in the early 1970s. The corruption cases are more rampant. Have a nice weekend.
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LEMON TIME
Afghanistan
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Posted - 14 Jul 2006 : 13:41:22
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| NO one have to do setsettal to keep their JOBS,Goverment should employ people to clean the country as you dont expect to pay your tax and still clean,which means paying someone for a job that you end up doing yourself anyway.Peace and love |
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Alhassan
Sweden
813 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jul 2006 : 14:17:36
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Originally posted by LEMON TIME
NO one have to do setsettal to keep their JOBS,Goverment should employ people to clean the country as you dont expect to pay your tax and still clean,which means paying someone for a job that you end up doing yourself anyway.Peace and love
Lemon Time,
You must ask the question why the cleaning if people are employed to do so? The tax payers pay to the central government, but the cleaning is the responsibility of the lokal government.I think you should differentciate what is central government and lokal government's responsibility. Look at Banjul. BCC does not clean the place properly. It is not the government that is responsible, but BCC. Things have gone too far at home with a clean enviroment. The dumping place KOTU smells and there you have the socalled modern villas and mansons, but who cares if the place is not cleaned? People should be more awear of their enviroment. People in the Gambia could be seen standing and urinating all over. Some places smell when you go by in the hot daylight. Can you agree with me that people at home are careless of the enviroment. During the rainey season, mosquitos breed all over. You can see old empty fridges and freezes, old and abandoned cars filled up with water encourage mosquitoes. Look at Pipline area. During the rains stagnant water comes to your knees, because of lack of good roads and good enviromentl treatment. All these problems together makes Jammeh to say what he said.
I run a project in Cape Town in Nyanga and Billevill. I am there again in november. Where in SOuth Africa do you live? I know a lot of Senegalese in Mobery and Simons Town. |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14 Jul 2006 : 14:33:15
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Originally posted by Alhassan
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Originally posted by LEMON TIME
NO one have to do setsettal to keep their JOBS,Goverment should employ people to clean the country as you dont expect to pay your tax and still clean,which means paying someone for a job that you end up doing yourself anyway.Peace and love
Lemon Time,
You must ask the question why the cleaning if people are employed to do so? The tax payers pay to the central government, but the cleaning is the responsibility of the lokal government.I think you should differentciate what is central government and lokal government's responsibility. Look at Banjul. BCC does not clean the place properly. It is not the government that is responsible, but BCC. Things have gone too far at home with a clean enviroment. The dumping place KOTU smells and there you have the socalled modern villas and mansons, but who cares if the place is not cleaned? People should be more awear of their enviroment. People in the Gambia could be seen standing and urinating all over. Some places smell when you go by in the hot daylight. Can you agree with me that people at home are careless of the enviroment. During the rainey season, mosquitos breed all over. You can see old empty fridges and freezes, old and abandoned cars filled up with water encourage mosquitoes. Look at Pipline area. During the rains stagnant water comes to your knees, because of lack of good roads and good enviromentl treatment. All these problems together makes Jammeh to say what he said.
I run a project in Cape Town in Nyanga and Billevill. I am there again in november. Where in SOuth Africa do you live? I know a lot of Senegalese in Mobery and Simons Town.
Bro you can't be more clear. Despite Jammeh's problem, there are certain things its our responsibility. When i was young in our village when we go to friday prayer or Eid Prayer in the Rains, the Alkalo or his representative will remind the people about cleaning the grasses by their perimeter fences. The people will come out and do the cleaning happily. Those compunds where there are no youths neighbours do theirs for them. So SET SETTAL was done before why the trouble now? When i go to some parts of Pipeline and Fajara during the rains am dumbfounded how the hell can people relativley rich live in such filth? Tall grasses all over, dirty ponds, unspecified dumpsites.
As Alhassan rightly said Central gov't should be clearly distinguished from local gov't. We pay our taxes to the local authorities BCC, KMC, BAC,KAC,KTRAC,BAC etc. Its the duty of these authroties to provide amenities in these areas. Most of the revenue collected is stolen viz large scams at BAC, BCC and KMC.
So Lemon Time, take some LEMON TIME(break) and take a proper look at things. Put your partisan glasses away and take a re-look! |
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 14 Jul 2006 : 16:20:03
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Alhassan once again you've hit the nail. Set setal should be compulsory and more often, perhaps its the only language people understand.
i was shocked to hear about Cholera in Ebo Town last year. Cholera is a disease of filth. bad sanitation.
this has nothing to do with the government or politics. there is no one to blame except the monster that has become KMC. its crazy.
more than 350,000 (>30% of the popluation) people live in KMC. the next big area council is Banjul with less than 40,000. Basse,Kerrewan,Mansa Konko etc all are smaller than Banjul. yet KMC which is less than 80 sqaure Km has such a huge population. this is the problem. you can't run it from one place, those who advocate for decentralisation should decentralise KMC in the first place.
people/businesses/hotel etc are taxed like hell but they dont even collect the rubbish properly.
at Senegambia KMC and BAC collect taxes within 10m of each other causing unnecessary traffic jams, you wonder why they can't do it together at one spot and share afterwards. this is the problem,it just leads to overstaffing, repetition and inefficiencies.
that is why they were buying pencils at 70 dalasis ...etc
i hope that someone in central Government will save us and chop this monster(KMC) into pieces. Bakau,Kotu,serrekunda, Faji Kunda etc should be made into seperate area councils. |
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LEMON TIME
Afghanistan
1295 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jul 2006 : 16:28:59
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| I can really see your point of view ALHASSAN,but still its wrong to force people to do setsetal.Its up to any citizen to do setsetal or not as its illigal to force tax payers to work agains their own will.I live in CAPE TOWN near MANDELA STREET.MADIBA or MADISS JAMMEH who cleans KANILAI, is't the people employ by the Goverment or not.I can see that since you drink those kanilai juice you seems to be in good vibes.peace to you all. |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 14 Jul 2006 : 18:10:16
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I dont believe it should be A force to do set tetal. We pay our taxes to KMC who should clean the streets. The results of the commissions of inquiry showed invoices of one pencil costing more than D100.00 each. This where our taxes go to. This is why you dont see the cleansing service trucks anymore.
I oppose force of any kind. People should volunteeer and not be threaten to loose their jobs when the cleaning is infact someone else'es job who has failed to do it. Why should i be punished for some one else's tardiness. IF WE ARE A SUPER POWER THEN WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE MOST MINIMUM LEVEL OF SANITATION PROVIDED BY LOCALLY CONSTITUTED AUTHORITIES. |
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LEMON TIME
Afghanistan
1295 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jul 2006 : 18:51:40
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| WELSAID kondorong at last some one knows his rights.It is unlawful to force anyone to do any job without pay under international law unless the person wants to do it VOLUNTARELY or so.We not in the slavery day where you work against your will.Ignorance harms a man more than a cancer in the body.peace |
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Alhassan
Sweden
813 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jul 2006 : 19:04:53
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Originally posted by LEMON TIME
I can really see your point of view ALHASSAN,but still its wrong to force people to do setsetal.Its up to any citizen to do setsetal or not as its illigal to force tax payers to work agains their own will.I live in CAPE TOWN near MANDELA STREET.MADIBA or MADISS JAMMEH who cleans KANILAI, is't the people employ by the Goverment or not.I can see that since you drink those kanilai juice you seems to be in good vibes.peace to you all.
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LEMON TIME
Afghanistan
1295 Posts |
Posted - 14 Jul 2006 : 19:24:43
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| ALHASSAN DO YOU MISS YOUR KEY BOARD AS YOU POST NORTHING IN REPLY TO THE ABOVE POST.Did you drink some of that KANILAI juice as well. |
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Newfy
Western Samoa
462 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jul 2006 : 01:49:39
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| Magic water... hmm do you all mean the kind that grows in the forest that is smoked or some kind of magic that a marabout or diviner would put together to remedy a problem? |
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LEMON TIME
Afghanistan
1295 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jul 2006 : 04:21:28
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| THATS THE ONE NEWFY |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
1350 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jul 2006 : 22:46:47
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| we fulas belief if one's father does not die,annother's father can never become alkalo |
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LEMON TIME
Afghanistan
1295 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 02:00:09
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| Oh dear,do Fulas kill one's father in other for another father to be come An Alkalo then.oppsss |
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Alhassan
Sweden
813 Posts |
Posted - 17 Jul 2006 : 11:22:39
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Originally posted by LEMON TIME
ALHASSAN DO YOU MISS YOUR KEY BOARD AS YOU POST NORTHING IN REPLY TO THE ABOVE POST.Did you drink some of that KANILAI juice as well.
Bro,
I have not been to the Gambia since last year. I don't know about the said drink either. It was a humanmistake. On the topic of cleanliness and health issues, we must not compromise. If you people have been living in dirt and smell of rutten fish ect. you would have reacted. Remember , the person you oppose to about the cleaning is not affected. He lives and sleeps in an enviroment without mosquitoes and smell. If you love your country , you must say the truth. I am not a Gambian voter. I have given up my passport to FAFA. Nowadays, I am very concerned about people who give bad names to our country. Most of you who oppose to ht ecleaning, have you suggested to your different minucipals how it should be carried on? Dont blame government for your own mistake. I understand why some of you on the forum are against this without a clue of why. Even if you oppose, please remember, governments change but the Gambia is always Gambia. You are educated enough to seperate centeral government and lokal governments responsibility. Ask the NAAD members or the UDP/NRP. if they speak the truth they will inform you correctly without grudges. You must pu the health issues at the front of everything, otherwise we shall experience what South Africa. Being careless can cost Gambia a lot. Not only money wise but also educated ones.
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