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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 14 Jul 2011 :  20:14:49  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
Snuggles has no problem about googling and copy/pasting pedophile issue on Bantaba, but he has an issue answering pedophile cases is done by the profile fitting himself. He expect Muslims to explain/comment the charge the profile of Muslim for pedophile case, but he is not willing to participate and respond the pedophile profile that includes him. OK let us discuss.

Muslims pedophile: Muslim should defend themselves for this.
European pedophile: White European defend themselves for this.

Can you see why I am objecting this post?

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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snuggels

960 Posts

Posted - 14 Jul 2011 :  20:28:36  Show Profile
You got me there Kombo But as I understand it Muslim terrorists kill and become martyrs in the eyes of Islam. Also as I understand it the child brides are married in a Islamic ceremony. If not what religion are they married under
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 14 Jul 2011 :  20:38:59  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
[quote]Originally posted by snuggels

You got me there Kobo But as I understand it Muslim terrorists kill and become martyrs in the eyes of Islam.

1. DESCRIBE A MUSLIM TERRORISTS AND CAUSE OF THAT TERRORIST WHO BECOME MARTYRS IN THE EYES OF ISLAM?

2. WHO ARE MUSLIM TERRORIST THAT "KILLS TO BECOME A MARTYRS IN THE EYES OF ISLAM"?

Also as I understand it the child brides are married in an Islamic ceremony. If not what religion are they married under?

1. PROFILE AGE AND TELL ME WHERE CHILD BRIDES EXIST?

2. IS IT ONLY IN MUSLIM COUNTRIES ACROSS THE GLOBE?

3. HOW ARE CHILD BRIDES MARRIED IN AN ISLAMIC CEREMONY?

4. WHAT IS THE ISLAMIC CEREMONY OF MARRIAGE YOU UNDERSTAND?

5. WHAT ARE YOU TOLD OR TAUGHT ON THE PRACTISE OF MUSLIMS CONDUCTING THEIR MARRIAGE

Edited by - kobo on 14 Jul 2011 20:55:07
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snuggels

960 Posts

Posted - 14 Jul 2011 :  20:54:00  Show Profile
As I said you got me there kombo
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snuggels

960 Posts

Posted - 14 Jul 2011 :  20:56:03  Show Profile
Turk
As has been said bantaba members will judge and make up there own minds to your posts and lack of response to the main article and just keep coming back with other questions

The problem is YOU are like the fanatical extreme Muslims you can’t rationalise with them. One is wasting ones breath

I have made views known so for me there is no more to say
Turk
As has been said bantaba members will judge and make up there own minds to your posts and lack of response to the main article and just keep coming back with other questions

The problem is YOU are like the fanatical extreme Muslims you can’t rationalise with them. One is wasting ones breath

I have made views known so for me there is no more to say
If Muslims dont have child brides or dont kill in the name of Alah Thats fine by me

Edited by - snuggels on 14 Jul 2011 21:12:24
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 14 Jul 2011 :  21:01:00  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
Snuggles. You are so ignorant. The martyrs is not about killing. It is about dying. Your understanding wrong. If a Muslim dies in the name of for Muslims to defend themselves, they became martyrs.

When British soldiers die in Afghanistan, there is a state funeral, where hundreds of people come and mourn. They honor the death. Why is it so big deal if a Muslim die for Muslims. I don't see any difference in that. I have great respect for a British Soldiers who goes Afghanistan, Iraq for fight. I don't disagree with that, but I have great respect for a soldier who is willing to die for his or her country. Why Muslim are not worthy for this honor?


diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 14 Jul 2011 :  21:03:57  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by snuggels

Turk
As has been said bantaba members will judge and make up there own minds to your posts and lack of response to the main article and just keep coming back with other questions

The problem is YOU are like the fanatical extreme Muslims you can’t rationalise with them. One is wasting ones breath

I have made views known so for me there is no more to say




You are radical imbecile if you make a suggestion that I am a fanatical extreme Muslim. There is no post anywhere I am fanatical extreme Muslim. Only imbeciles and ignorant person would have such impression. I am radical warrior against people like you though. That would be more correct statement. And I am proud for this.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 14 Jul 2011 :  21:31:26  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
[quote]Originally posted by snuggels

As I said you got me there kobo

1. ITS DIFFICULT BECAUSE THEY ARE CARICATURES, PREJUDICIAL SWEEPING STATEMENTS FOR PROPAGANDA AND DISORIENTATION?

2. THERE ARE BETTER USEFUL THING TO LEARN FROM ISLAM AND PROMOTE PEACEFUL CO-EXISTENCE WITH MUSLIMS, SO PLEASE DO FURTHER RESEARCH TO THE EXTENT OF LEARNING TO UNDERSTAND THE QURAN, PROPHET MUHAMAD AND ISLAM?

3. ALSO RELIGION AND SEX LIFESTYLES ARE PRIVATE FOR EVERY INDIVIDUAL! YOU FOUND YOUR GOSPEL LIKEWISE OTHERS FOUND THEIRS ALSO? SO FOR WORLD PEACE THESE ARE APPLICABLE TO ALL DENOMINATION? THE UNIVERSAL Declaration on the Elimination of all Forms of Intolerance and of Discrimination Based on Religion or Belief

AND THE UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS

4.HOWEVER I THINK WE NEED TO SHARE WITH YOU THE POSITION OF ISLAM ON THESES MISCONCEPTIONS AMONGST OTHERS? SO AN INSPIRING STARTER FROM THESE TWO VERSIONS OF;

Prophet Muhammad's Last Sermon

Prophet Muhammad’s Last Sermon: A Final Admonition


Edited by - kobo on 14 Jul 2011 21:41:25
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kisley



United Kingdom
214 Posts

Posted - 14 Jul 2011 :  22:31:08  Show Profile Send kisley a Private Message

I would like to ask some questions?

What does Islamic law say about the legitimacy of suicide attacks, and suicide in general?
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kisley



United Kingdom
214 Posts

Posted - 14 Jul 2011 :  22:37:47  Show Profile Send kisley a Private Message
If a woman is raped, why must there be 4 male witnesses. Witness to what? Witness to the rape? or a witnesses who can vouch for her good character perhaps???

Would someone care to explain

Thanks
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kisley



United Kingdom
214 Posts

Posted - 14 Jul 2011 :  22:49:29  Show Profile Send kisley a Private Message
I read (obviously not sure if it is true), that Mohammad had a vision of hell where he observed "the majority of its dwellers were women"

Another member has already asked what awaits women when they enter heaven, and having time on my hands, I searched on the internet, but unfortunately there is little information on this subject and if there is it is very vague.

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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 14 Jul 2011 :  23:57:20  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
Kisley

Maybe you should open separate topic for these. It should be dealt separately so it can be good reference for the future use as well.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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Moe



USA
2326 Posts

Posted - 15 Jul 2011 :  00:42:49  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
Turk, tell Snuggels that, this is totally based on a biased notion and unfounded nonsense, the fact is that despite the similarities with many religions Islam so happens to be the only holy book that was not tampered with or altered, Of course it is a known fact that Islam refuses reform which it should consider in the 21st century, but the fact is it is practiced in it's purest and unaltered form, All the other religious books and Churches have gone through reforms but the teachings of the Bible or Torah as to the role of women is identical to that of Islam and prior to their reform which is Mans intervention has nothing to do with divinity, Punishments are a whole difference story or so called justice and Kisley has some Valid points but they deserve their own thread. I think snuggels is a Bigot and Hates Islam or gets off Bashing Moslems, BTW Snuggels I do go to the Mosque when I feel like it sometimes, The Quran is in its purest form and practiced in its purest manner, the reason we hear and see terrorism but just remember one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter, it just depends on what side of the fence you sitting on. Snuggles has some very racist tendencies if you ask me..................Peace

I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....

Edited by - Moe on 15 Jul 2011 00:49:13
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 15 Jul 2011 :  00:53:12  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
[quote]Originally posted by kisley


I would like to ask some questions?

What does Islamic law say about the legitimacy of suicide attacks, and suicide in general?

Kisley These are important political questions, issues and misconceptions which needs to be discussed with some form of open-mind; not to stigmatised Islam or without prejudice to Muslims.

I reckoned that there are two parts of your question; Islamic law or "Sharia" on "legitimacy of suicide attacks" and "suicide in general"? I think "suicide in general" is not permissible in Islam; considered HELL BOUND?

Also there are religious disagreements on present conflicts,modern warfare, military tactics and politics?

However you can gather useful information from a scholar for these links;

1. Martyrdom in Islam Versus Suicide Bombing!


2. Matyrdom = Istishhad

3. Suicide attack

Edited by - kobo on 15 Jul 2011 00:56:09
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snuggels

960 Posts

Posted - 15 Jul 2011 :  01:21:15  Show Profile
Moe
I wondered how long it would take before the accusation of racism would raise it head nothing could be further from the truth
I didn’t write the article as can be seen by the header

For me my points were being against under age sex as in Muslim child marriages also suicide bombers deemed martyrs dyeing in the name of Islam

But I do accept
“ the reason we hear and see terrorism but just remember one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter, it just depends on what side of the fence you sitting on”
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