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Janko
Gambia
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Posted - 27 Apr 2011 : 13:17:06
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The Beautiful Ones Are Not Yet Born 1969 by Ayi Kwei Armah
You, know, when you tell a dogmatist not to put his hand in a crocs mouth, he would say is not his right hand but the left.
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Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 27 Apr 2011 : 13:41:11
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WE ARE NOT DEALING WITH BIZARRE, RIDICULOUS COMMENTS AND PUZZLES REPEATING AGAIN SOME POINTS TO NOTE ON ISSUES IN CONTENTION FOR POSTERITY UNDER;
quote: Originally posted by turk
Janko
If you already know the past postings, that is fine, but those who are less knowledgeable/experienced members like nyari, who does not get the point and bring out the same issue by giving the example of coalition in germany, australia, india, south africa, Uk which have nothing to do with Gambia, I have to repeat.
EXCELLENT AS UK IS A CLASSIC CASE AND FACTS BASED; WHERE COALITION WAS NOT EVEN CONSIDERED AS A STRATEGY, TACTIC, AGENDA OR ADVOCATED BY ANY OPPOSITION BEFORE GOING TO THE POLLS AGAINST FORMER PRIME MINISTER GORDON BROWN & LABOUR GOVERNMENT
HOWEVER POST ELECTION A COALITION GOVERNMENT WAS "DELIVERED" THROUGH THE POLLS RESULTING IN SOME FORM OF POLITICAL CRISES, WITH A "HUNG PARLIAMENT" AND THE CONSTITUTION OPEN THE AVENUES FOR PARTIES TO NEGOTIATE AND AGREE TO FORM A GOVERNMENT. THEN WE WITNESSED THIRD PARTY IN LEADING COMMAND POSITION (I.E LIBERAL DEMOCRATS) ENGAGED BOTH TORY AND LABOUR; BEFORE FINALLY DECIDING TO FORM A COALITION WITH TORY ON VERY STRONG TERMS
THEREFORE PLEASE NOTE THAT LIBERAL DEMOCRATS (IN THIRD PLACE) WERE THE KEY PLAYERS FOR ANY THRUST OR SUCCESS TO ESTABLISH THE GOVERNMENT OF THE DAY THEY COULD HAVE DECIDED TO GO WITH LABOUR RATHER THAN TORY AT THAT CRUCIAL TIME; FOR A LABOUR/LIBERAL DEMOCRAT COALITION SO WHERE IS THE PRIVILEGE, LOGIC OR CREDIBILITY OF ARGUING FOR "PETTY-LED COALITION"
UNDER THE GAMBIA CONSTITUTION ANY POLITICAL PARTY CAN EITHER OPERATE ON ITS OWN OR "MERGER OF POLITICAL PARTIES"
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Janko
Gambia
1267 Posts |
Posted - 27 Apr 2011 : 18:00:33
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Once upon a time there lived a man who enjoys digging graves. One fine sunny day he met a head-hunter. For some reason they start conversing until they touched on each others profession. The head hunter praised the skills of the grave digger. Then the grave digger became over excited and told the head-hunter that he does not only dig graves but knows the trick of being berried alive for two days. He turns out to be the easiest kill in the life of the head-hunter.
To be continued…………………….
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Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 29 Apr 2011 : 10:27:25
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GAINAKO ON-LINE Breaking News: APRC Candidate Wins Wuli East Bye-elections UNDER http://www.gainako.com/news/news/2011/04/28/breaking-news-aprc-candidate-wins-wuli-east-bye-elections.html
"Unofficial results from the bye-elections in Wuli East indicated that the APRC candidate Saidou Sabally has won the much talked about bye-elections held today April 28, 2011.Reliable sources has reported that the APRC candidate scored 2745 votes and Swaibou Touray the NADD candidate scored 1849 votes.
The official results of the bye-elections is yet to be announced on national television as we go to press. Our inside sources indicated that there was a low voter turnout which historically benefits the incumbent party that controls the national assemby seat for that constituency.
More analysis of the results will follow after the official release of the results..."
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 30 Apr 2011 : 14:05:59
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FOROYAA NEWS WITH IEC Press Release : WULI EAST BY-ELECTION UNDER http://www.foroyaa.gm/modules/news/article.php?storyid=6733
" PUBLICATION OF RESULTS OF NATIONAL ASSEMBLY BY-ELECTION WULI EAST CONSTITUENCY, BASSE ADMINISTRATIVE AREA
In accordance with Section 53, subsection (2) (a) of the Elections Act, a by-election was conducted on 28th April 2011 at Wuli East Constituency in order to fill the vacant position of National Assembly Member for the said constituency.
Mr. Saidou V. Sabally of the APRC polled 2745 votes whilst Mr. Suwaibou Touray polled 1849 votes.
In accordance with Section 81 subsection (2) of the same Elections Act, the Chairman Alhaji Mustapha L. Carayol declared the results and Mr. Saidou V. Sabally is duly elected Member of the National Assembly for Wuli East Constituency.
Singed Alhaji Mustapha L. Carayol Chairman"
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
1350 Posts |
Posted - 30 Apr 2011 : 14:32:38
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Kobo, turks,janko, Tell me what went wrong for Swaibou to have lost in that By Election? I was surprised that he did despite a low turn out which mostly favours the ruling party. Why didn't NADD make resources available to organise people arrange for their transport to and fro poling stations. How about those in Kombo travelling to Wuli to cast their votes? What is you guys response? Oh would you blame UDP on these failures as well?
Swaibou is my uncle and I respect his political affiliation with the PDOIS am sure he does respect mine and we still live as a family., but people like Kobo, turks and the likes who is Yahya Jammeh's agent on Bantaba parading as a NADD/PDOIS symphatiser undermining all their effort to achieve booting the tyrant out thus creating confussion amongst oppositions so that they would never get together for saving the Gambia.
You see Kobo, turks, you guys are now going to be exposed and disgraced.Gambia is more than your master or anyone Gambian if you must know.A lot of us have checked and found out that any topic people write for discussions , you guys would poke in your jammehrite noses and try to divert those topics into personal attacks of innocent Gambians, politicising it or the like thus preventing genuine Gambians from discussing issues affecting their dear motherland.
Guys check any postings on Bantaba and I am willing to pay anyone with £1000.00 I mean £1000.00 to anyone if he/she can show me any forum for discussions where it interest Gambians and it concerns the future and these two JAMMEH AGENT would not be found parambulating everywhere and anywhere more than anyone else and all their comments would be geared to try divert people from the main issues. |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 30 Apr 2011 : 18:01:25
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Janyanfara
I am not Jammeh agent. I am just telling you that UDP is collective political imbecile which did not offer anything better than current regime. Here is a question for you. Why do you support a leader (Unlike Sallah) who betrayed his own nation by a coward act seeking refugee in Senegalese embassy rather than fighting like a brave man in the front? |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
1350 Posts |
Posted - 30 Apr 2011 : 20:41:21
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turks, every thing you guys talk about is vying for Halifa? Why not go to the Gambia to campaign for him.I for one have the following answers for you. I choose UDP because it comforms with my political beliefs I choose the UDP because it is closest to removing the tyrant from power through the ballot box. I choose the UDP because of it sinceriy to engage the brutal tyrant. Halifa, is a good guy and can lead the Gambia in any way but as far as I know the PDOIS's policies is the party leadership is rotational and if so I belief this time it should be someone else than Halifa. Maybe you just support PDOIS but you don't even know its policies. How if you are not Jammeh agants? Gambia is run by a mad dog AND I want Jammeh to go now and IF PDOIS keeps changing Gambians,maybe by the time they come to rule as a government, your man or so called man because I doubt if you love Halifa, he may not be the party's flag bearer. |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 30 Apr 2011 : 22:01:28
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janyanfara
I repeated this several times, I do not believe that political process/leadership in Gambia will make significant differences, that includes Halifa Salah, grandpa Darboe or Jammeh. As long as lower literacy rate, economic underdevelopment, political immaturity, tribal politics exist, I do not expect much change in Gambia. I don't love Halifa. However, I like Halifa because he is fearless, realist and skilled politician. And I respect your decision about your political belief but I am wondering; what is your political beliefs? What is UDP's ideology? Is it right, left, socialist, liberal, conservative, green, nationalist, ethnic base or football club? I am wondering how sincere it is. I mean if UDP was sincere, its leader would not chicken out and seek asylum in another countries territory.
You said PDOIS's policies is the party leadership is rotational!!!! Sorry can you clarify this before I make any comments.
Anyway, would you answer my question about UDP's leader seeking asylum in foreign country rather than taking risk?
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
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shaka
996 Posts |
Posted - 02 May 2011 : 12:57:37
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quote: Originally posted by Janyanfara
[size=3]Kobo, turks,janko, Tell me what went wrong for Swaibou to have lost in that By Election? I was surprised that he did despite a low turn out which mostly favours the ruling party.
Just exactly why are you surprised that Swaibou and NADD lost the Wulli East bi-elections? What exactly have changed in Gambian politics since the last National Assembly elections to warrant such a surprise. He polled 41% percent of the votes in 2007 and yet nobody batted an eyelid. He lost by a similar margin in the 2011 bi-elections with 40% of the votes and suddenly he is a criminal. This is the problem with you folks at the UDP, instead of training your efforts towards being the elected government by beating all other political parties including the APRC, you are just too busy fighting for second best. The best runners-up to the APRC. The biggest opposition. Anything but PDOIS or NADD. Why such a loser's mentality? Instead of prosecuting the crimes, that is, an elected government official in the person of the Lord Mayor of KMC, top civil servants like goverment Ministers, Governors, Chiefs etc(paid by poor taxpayers) have to abandon their official responsibilities and tasks for days and weeks on end to campaign for a political party in a not-so-significant bi-elections, just to prove to their master the Sheikh, that they are worthy of every crumb he throws at their feet. That, they can actually keep him in power - no matter what it takes - so long as he keep showering them with DARAJA. Do you people really underestimate the resources(taxpayers') and personnel put into this campaign to buy votes and secure this national assembly seat for the APRC that you should be so surprised that Swaibou and NADD lost this seat? Is the heavy concentration of the power of incumbency into Wulli East lost to you? And exactly what prayer does Swaibou and NADD have with their meagre resouces? Get bloody real!! BTW the same WMDs await the UDP and all the opposition in the coming election unless you stop claiming your birthrights to the "unbaked cake" and wake the fcuk up. |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 02 May 2011 : 18:25:02
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Shaka you have highlighted roles of HIGH POWER DELEGATION; INCLUDING Governor, Chiefs, Alkalos, Ministers amongst others during nomination day for APRC and other factors against any opposition candidate
However these are UDP'S VIEWS ON THIS BY-ELECTIONS TO COVER FAILURES FOR NON-PARTICIPATION IN ALL BY-ELECTIONS AND FAILING TO RALLY A PROMISING SUPPORT FROM LOCALS AFTER ATTEMPTS (BY UDP YOUTH WING UNDER FALSE PRETEXT FROM ITS WEBSITE REPORT); TO UNDERMINE NADD DIDN'T MATERIALISED AS THEY DID PROUDLY CELEBRATING DEFECTIONS FROM FORMER ALLY NRP FEW WEEKS PRIOR TO THIS BY-ELECTIONS
REFER RELATED BANTABA GAMBIAN POLITICS TOPIC UDP's Reactions on Wuli East By-Elections UNDER http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10814 |
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shaka
996 Posts |
Posted - 05 May 2011 : 02:43:04
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Indeed Kobo, the length they(UDP) went to undermine Swaibou and NADD's attempt to salvage some pride for the opposition in the Wulli East bi-elections was disgraceful and contemptuous to say the least. Can you imagine the reverse, where PDOIS went out of it ways to sell Agenda 2011 in a constituent where an APRC vs UDP bi-elections was being contested, with just days before polling? They would have cried blue murder!! Only God knows how much their contemptuous action had impacted on the overall voter apathy in Wulli East, where their presence could have yielded only only one thing. An increase in perceived continuous disunity within the opposition, among eligible voters who would have voted opposition. And the result? A further increase in voter apathy from the last National Assembly elections in that area. Yet still they want us to be grateful for their presence in Wulli East days before polling day. You wonder why there is conspiracy theories abound, that The Sheikh is actually bankrolling their calculated stupidity. |
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