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Momodou



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Posted - 07 Apr 2011 :  15:31:21  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message
‘2011 election to define Gambia’s Future’
By Sainey M.K. Marenah

Thursday, April 07, 2011


Picture: Lawyer Ousainou Darboe

As the race for the 2011 presidential election draws near, the leader of the opposition United Democratic Party, Lawyer Ousainou Darboe, has asserted that the forthcoming elections will be a defining moment for the future of The Gambia.
“These coming elections will be very defining for the future of this country, because people are talking of having a monarch in this country and, if they do not exercise their right to vote and vote rightly, then they will succeed in establishing a monarchy in this country,” Darboe said in an interview with this reporter yesterday.
According to the UDP leader, Gambians should never allow themselves to be weakened by situations, noting that if they allow the 2011 elections to slip through their hands, this country will be doomed forever.
“The announcement by the Independent Electoral Commission concerning the date of the Presidential, National Assembly and Local Government Elections is not a surprise to the UDP, and I do not think it is a surprise to any of the political parties,” he said, adding that the announcement is not strange as, traditionally, elections in this country are held between September and November.
“So this is really helpful to us although December would have been a better month,” Darboe continued.
The UDP told this reporter that his party is fully prepared for the coming elections, adding that the opposition party has a team upcountry currently working on recruiting agents for the upcoming voter registration exercise.
“We are getting formidable agents, well-informed agents, and this is part of our preparations for the 2011 presidential elections,” he further stated.
“Our agenda is certainly captured in our slogan “Sunu Rewme Noyko Mom,” a Wollof saying meaning “We own our country”.
We want to take charge of the education system of the country, put it on a very sound footing so that those who leave Grade 12 would be considered fairly educated.
We want to have a healthy society, a well-fed and informed society, and this can only become a reality when you have a responsible and responsive government,” he declared.
Noting that the UDP is out to alleviate poverty, Darboe added that his party would find remedies to increases in transport fares which do not reflect the earning capacity of the average Gambian.
The UDP is looking forward to forging an opposition alliance that can make change, come the 2011 elections, according to Darboe.
“I hope that no single opposition party will be in a situation where it will contest elections on its own; we hope that all the parties will come together, and then contest elections,” Darboe added.
The opposition leader called on Gambians of voting age to register during the forthcoming voter registration exercise, so as to have a say in the government they elect.
“It is of no use criticizing a government that you have not voted for or opt not to vote for, because even if you vote for the opposition, you are still taking part in the electoral process and determining who should be in charge of the affairs of this country. But if you do not register or vote when you are supposed to, you have no right to say anything about the happenings in the society,” he opined.
In his view, it is those who refuse to vote during elections who cause the election of “bad government officials”, urging Gambians not to compromise their sovereign rights as citizens of this country who should determine or take part in determining the future of this country.
Stating that he will never be put down, by what he called past bitter experiences, the UDP leader told The Point that it is those past bitter experiences that help the UDP to look into the future with optimism.
Asked about the importance of allowing Gambians in the Diaspora to vote during the elections, Darboe stated that these people must be allowed voting rights, as they are contributing immensely to the development of this country in the form of remittances.
“These people should have a say in their government entrusted with the responsibility to take charge of the affairs of this country,” Darboe said.

Source: The Point

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kobo



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Posted - 07 Apr 2011 :  19:01:02  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
ALWAYS AS THE POINT REPORTS ON UDP (ACTIVITIES AND MESSAGE FROM LEADERS) BUT WHAT ABOUT UDP WEBSITE FOR OFFICIAL SOURCE, CLEAR PRONOUNCEMENTS, DECLARATIONS, PRESS RELEASE TO CLARIFY ITS POSITION, AGENDA, NATIONAL BURNING ISSUES; ESPECIALLY OPPOSITION ALLIANCE OR COALITION

HERE WE GO TO INVESTIGATE INFORMATION FROM UDP OFFICIAL SOURCE UNDER http://www.udpgambia.com/ ;LIKE WHAT IS WITNESSED WITH P.D.O.I.S\N.A.D.D MAKING SERIES OF CLEARPRONOUNCEMENTS, STATEMENTS, DECLARATIONS AND PRESS RELEASES ON 2011

PLEASE NOTE FROM MUSA JENG'S LETTER AS QUOTED; "For starters, couple of years ago we sent this proposal to UDP party, the parent outfit for UDP-UK. We are few months from the General election and I am yet to see a proposal from UDP-UK or their parent party…."

OJ ALSO SAID HE MADE EFFORTS WAS NOT PRESENTED WITH NOTHING

THERE ARE NOTHING ON RECORD TO SHOW WHAT TERMS WERE AGREED BETWEEN UDP AND NRP BEFORE THEY DIVORCE; AMONGST OTHER ISSUES

SERIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT TO BE LEAD BY THREE BLIND MEN

Edited by - kobo on 08 Apr 2011 14:43:45
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 09 Apr 2011 :  23:26:03  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
IS IT ACCORDING TO OFFICIAL SOURCES? FURTHER CLARIFICATIONS REQUIRED AS NOTHING IS CLEAR ON THIS TOPIC STILL VISITING http://www.udpgambia.com/

ACCORDING TO REPORTER WITH UDP LEADER LAWYER DARBOE; "“I hope that no single opposition party will be in a situation where it will contest elections on its own; we hope that all the parties will come together, and then contest elections,” Darboe added. "

1. PLEASE TAKE NOTE DECLARATION THAT; IT IS PRUDENT AS HOPE FOR "all the parties will come together" APPEARS TO BE SAME SEMBLANCE UNDER N.A.D.D FOR A COMMON GOAL IN 2006 SO HOW AND UNDER WHAT NEW TERMS

2. CAN ANYONE CHALLENGE THAT UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE GAMBIA "MERGER OF POLITICAL PARTIES" IS THE ONLY AVENUE; AS NO PARTY WILL CANNOT RALLY BEHIND ANOTHER POLITICAL PARTY TO LEAD THEM EACH PARTY CAN BE EITHER A SINGLE POLITICAL PARTY OR OPERATE WITH OTHER POLITICAL PARTIES AS CATERED FOR IN THE CONSTITUTION UNDER "MERGER"

3. I CHALLENGE LAWYER OUSAINOU DARBOE OR ANYONE TO HOLD BRIEF FOR HIM ON THESE POINTS

Edited by - kobo on 09 Apr 2011 23:58:50
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turk



USA
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Posted - 09 Apr 2011 :  23:54:45  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
Kobo

You are very simple minded with very short term vision. Politic is not 1+1=2.. Do you think if opposition is united, the support against Jammeh will increase mathematically. That is not always the case in politics. It would be well 1+1 with unity can be less than 1+1 without. If I was a PDOIS supporter, and my party would unite with UDP, I would not vote for such alliance and vote for Jammeh. For PDOIS, it is much better to go alone and take over the main opposition spot.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.

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kobo



United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Apr 2011 :  00:06:34  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
Turk in 2006 opposition coalition under N.A.D.D was tested and it worked against Jammeh/A.P.R.C before dis-integration Out of three by-elections N.A.D.D won two to one against Jammeh/A.P.RC. Also if you tally all votes for opposition parties on all previous elections, there would have made gains against Jammeh/A.P.RC 2011 the enthusiasm from the public for expressions of discontent is there but time appear to be wasted for the expected leadership, strategies, tactics, right moves; including communication, networking and mobilisation; BY ALL STAKEHOLDERS (ESPECIALLY ALL OPPONENTS WORKING TOGETHER FOR THE COMMON GOOD OF ALL)

Edited by - kobo on 10 Apr 2011 02:42:52
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turk



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Posted - 10 Apr 2011 :  00:27:23  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
Like I said. Your short term vision does/will not benefit Gambia.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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kobo



United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Apr 2011 :  00:44:27  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message

Turk What do you consider short-term vision and what make you think it will not benefit Gambia?

Do you want Jammeh to continue to rule Gambia as A BRUTAL DICTATOR, PRESIDENT AND/OR KING FOR LIFE




Edited by - kobo on 10 Apr 2011 00:47:18
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turk



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Posted - 10 Apr 2011 :  01:03:24  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
First of all, I don't think Jammeh is brutal and he has legitimate support. And I don't think there is any option better than him. Very naively, you put too much weight on political process where majority of people ARE NOT PART of political process. The problem of Gambia is more than Jammeh, Darboe and Sallah. There will not be much difference if someone else other than Jammeh come to power. And I think, coalition, patches of power without harmony, with multiple voice, ideology, programs will not make things better. Actually, coalition could actually make things worse. There is no guarantee. If majority of people are not part of the political process, who ever, or group of people come to power, there will not be much differences as they are 'minority too'. As much as I like PDOIS for example, they are elite and they are marginalized political group from the ordinary gambians. Like I said, your short term vision just to change the current government is not the answer.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.

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kobo



United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Apr 2011 :  02:07:46  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
Sorry Turk I have enough of exchange on Jammeh/A.P.R.C. WE ARE AT DIFFERENT WAVE LENGTHS? YOU ARE PRO-JAMMEH AND TO ME JAMMEH IS A BRUTAL DICTATOR, WITH VERY BAD HUMAN RIGHTS RECORD AND ABUSE OF POWER? AM ON OPPOSITION FRONT WHO WANT A CHANGE OF GOVERNMENT AND OVERHAUL OUR SO-CALLED PRESENT SYSTEM UNDER JAMMEH/APRC A CHALLENGE FOR ALL OPPONENTS! WHAT FOLLOWS AFTER JAMMEH IS GONE WOULD BE HANDLED BY COMPETENT CITIZENS TO FACE FURTHER CHALLENGES; AND MOVE COUNTRY FORWARD THANKS FOR EXCHANGES!

ANALYSING, DIGESTING, AUTHENTICATE AND FOLLOW ANY DEVELOPMENTS ON STATEMENTS FROM THE UDP LEADER AS REPORTED; IS MY FOCUS AND REQUIRE MY FULL ATTENTION ON IT!

THEREFORE I DO NOT WANT TO SHIFT IN FOCUS OR DIVERSION OF MY ATTENTION ON THE REPORT

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turk



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Posted - 10 Apr 2011 :  03:02:19  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
I am not pro-jammeh. I have totally different standards from him, UDP and you. However, I have not seen any alternative better than him at the moment. It is always better the evil you know.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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kobo



United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Apr 2011 :  03:11:15  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
IS IT ACCORDING TO OFFICIAL SOURCES? FURTHER CLARIFICATIONS REQUIRED AS NOTHING IS CLEAR ON THIS TOPIC STILL VISITING http://www.udpgambia.com/

ACCORDING TO REPORTER WITH UDP LEADER LAWYER DARBOE; "“I hope that no single opposition party will be in a situation where it will contest elections on its own; we hope that all the parties will come together, and then contest elections,” Darboe added. "

1. PLEASE TAKE NOTE DECLARATION THAT; IT IS PRUDENT AS HOPE FOR "all the parties will come together" APPEARS TO BE SAME SEMBLANCE UNDER N.A.D.D FOR A COMMON GOAL IN 2006 SO HOW AND UNDER WHAT NEW TERMS

2. CAN ANYONE CHALLENGE THAT UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE GAMBIA "MERGER OF POLITICAL PARTIES" IS THE ONLY AVENUE; AS NO PARTY WILL CANNOT RALLY BEHIND ANOTHER POLITICAL PARTY TO LEAD THEM EACH PARTY CAN BE EITHER A SINGLE POLITICAL PARTY OR OPERATE WITH OTHER POLITICAL PARTIES AS CATERED FOR IN THE CONSTITUTION UNDER "MERGER"

3. I CHALLENGE LAWYER OUSAINOU DARBOE OR ANYONE TO HOLD BRIEF FOR HIM ON THESE POINTS

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turk



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Posted - 10 Apr 2011 :  16:13:16  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
Kobo

You don't know much about politics and how the coalitions works in democracy. Tell me why mergers would work? I mean Party A has different policy/team , Party B has different policy/team, as a voters why would I vote for 'unknown' rather than the policy/team I know/understand? I know UDP, I know PDOIS, but I don't know what to expect under the coalition of UDP+PDOIS. And you still do not explain to me why you think 1+1 will be more or equal to two rather than less than two.

Your motivation is to bring down the APRC and may want the unity for the parties based on this goal. That does not what the ordinary voters' motivation. Ordinary voters do not care whether APRC or Manchester United, they want solution to their daily problem like having clean drinking water.

You see as a politician, you are not understanding the voters. You misunderstood them. That is one of the fundamental mistakes politicians do, misreading what the voters want. The voters' priority is NOT to bring down the APRC. Their priority is to have solution for their daily problems. They are not as motivated as you are to bring down the so-called tyranny and restore the human rights. They have different agenda than you. And their plan does not match with your strategy. As I understanding from your post, your strategy is to bring down the APRC and restore the republic. No, that is not what the ordinary voters want.

I will give UDP and Darboe credit for this. They are going alone and that looks like the right thing to do.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.

Edited by - turk on 10 Apr 2011 16:51:18
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toubab1020



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Posted - 10 Apr 2011 :  21:15:43  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Turk you are asking for clarity in Gambian politics, I don't think there is any,that is also part of the two steps back one step forward that Gambian life in general suffers from,always another new problem to solve once you have solved one,result stagnation.

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 10 Apr 2011 :  22:59:11  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
Thanks Toubab 1020 and well said; concise to the point!

Turk I appreciate some of your ideas, admire and have high regard for you!

I WOULDN'T BOTHER ON YOUR IDEAS BUT WANT TO HEAR UDP MILITANTS TO AUTHENTICATE AND DILATE ON THIS QUOTATION FROM THE POINT REPORT;

"The UDP is looking forward to forging an opposition alliance that can make change, come the 2011 elections, according to Darboe.

“I hope that no single opposition party will be in a situation where it will contest elections on its own; we hope that all the parties will come together, and then contest elections,” Darboe added. "


CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES FUNDAMENTALLY HAVE IMPACTS ON ANY STRATEGY TO DELIVER A COALITION, ALLIANCE, UNITY OR ANY FORM OF UNITED FRONT

THEREFORE I WILL NOT WITHDRAW MY DECLARATIONS ABOVE HOW CAN "ALL OPPOSITION PARTIES COME TOGETHER" AS ENVISAGED IN THIS REPORT BY UDP LEADER; LAWYER OUSAINOU DARBOE

ALSO A PARTY-LED COALITION DOES NOT MAKE SENSE TO ME; I CONSIDER IT A FALLACY AND WOULD BE GRATEFUL TO HEAR FROM ITS PROPONENTS TO EXPLAIN TO US; HOW APPLICABLE TO RESOLVE OUR POLITICAL SITUATION OR IMPASSE, THE MODALITIES, FEASIBILITY, TERMS, LEGALITY AND EFFECTIVENESS BETTER THAN N.A.D.D

WHAT WAS THE NATURE F UDP/NRP ALLIANCE IN 2006? SOME LESSONS FROM RELATED BANTABA GAMBIAN POLITICS TOPIC UDP Youth Wing Tours CRR UNDER http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10725


Edited by - kobo on 11 Apr 2011 16:27:24
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turk



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Posted - 11 Apr 2011 :  16:55:09  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
Toubab

There are issues but people do not want to talk about the issues.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 12 Apr 2011 :  15:36:18  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by turk

Toubab

There are issues but people do not want to talk about the issues.



TURK AGREE WITH YOU THAT THERE ARE VERY IMPORTANT ISSUES THAT SHOULD BE ADDRESSED AND THIS TOPIC. NOTHING WILL NOT BE BURIED UNDER THE CARPET AND ALLOW UDP TO CANVAS PARASITICALLY ON PLIGHT OF GAMBIANS; WITHOUT DELIVERING ANY GOOD LEADERSHIP AS THE MAJOR UNIFYING FORCE TO MOBILISE AGAINST JAMMEH/APRC 2011

UDP NORM OF "VOTE UDP OR SUFFER" IS BLACKMAIL AND NOT THE RIGHT APPROACH TO MOBILISE AN ALLIED FORCE OR SOLICIT TEAMWORK
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