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turk
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 Posted - 04 Apr 2011 : 12:58:46
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Looks like UDP is doing better job of opposing the opposition than opposing current regime. It looks like they will win the election of main opposition one more time. Congratulation. They pick on easier fight which is fighting for being the main opposition party, they know they can win that. Congratulation.
I think Dbaldeh has a good point, but unfortunately, UDP's collective intelligence is below 0 so they can't produce any strategy for winning the election. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Apr 2011 : 13:16:35
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Originally posted by Moe
Am afraid not DBaldeh, and I will tell you why Nyari is absolutely RIGHT as time permits.... there is only one political impasse and the culprit is not being blamed.Nyari has a point despite the degenerated and old fashioned methods utilized by the UDP party.......................................Peace
BE VERY SERIOUS ON YOUR POINTS HIGHLIGHTED ABOVE PLEASE
WHAT POINTS
AWAITING TO HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR
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kobo
United Kingdom
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 04 Apr 2011 : 14:19:57
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Originally posted by Nyarikangbanna
When a ****** call you an *****, the best thing is not to respond. Wait for sober people to come with their criticisms and then reply in a mature and constructive manner. I await such criticisms.
Cheers
BEWARE OF BULLYING TACTICS
TODAY'S JOLLOF ON-LINE NEWS LADY DOVE SAYS; "Abusive words never convey the message; they only devalue it!" |
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shaka
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Posted - 04 Apr 2011 : 14:34:23
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quote:
Originally posted by turk
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Originally posted by Nyarikangbanna
When a ****** call you an *****, the best thing is not to respond. Wait for sober people to come with their criticisms and then reply in a mature and constructive manner. I await such criticisms.
Cheers
You can't respond. The only respond I am expecting, sober people, to offer apology for misleading public.
Brilliant Turk. This imbecile is the worst mis-educated fool on the planet. Just let him keep recycling old exhausted arguments on this forum. That is the only way he declogs his heavy burden (that is his deteriorating sanity) |
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dbaldeh
USA
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Posted - 04 Apr 2011 : 23:26:13
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quote:
Originally posted by turk
Looks like UDP is doing better job of opposing the opposition than opposing current regime. It looks like they will win the election of main opposition one more time. Congratulation. They pick on easier fight which is fighting for being the main opposition party, they know they can win that. Congratulation.
Turk, you made some great points, but with all fairness I think we need to separate the people propagating division from those humble leaders who hardly talk about the other opposition.
I think the UDP leader Mr. Darboe for far too long has been surrounded by mediocrats who are only interested in their own progress at his expense and that of the UDP. You hardly hear Darboe talk about other opposition leaders unless pushed to the brink! He is not interested in personality or party fights. Off course I must exclude the likes of Femi peters who has equally sacrificed a lot...
The UDP party probably the only one with greater potentials to dislodge Jammeh since its inception mainly because of its combination of NCP, PPP, GPP, NRP and other discontent Gambians has grossly under performed in every election.
This can largely be attributed to selfish behavior of some individuals, self promotion, business aspirations of some and mediocracy who have no idea how to move from A to Z.
They have milked this successful lawyer by surrounding him in all areas and not allowing him to form a greater political alliance to win during his leadership tenure. Now he has only one chance and even that they continue to push him away to isolationism.
It is unjust to Darboe and his family who have sacrifice everything including his successful career. If he were to step down today, as leader of the UDP the rest of the Unit cannot function despite all the noise from this inexperience Mr. know it all Daffeh!
If he knew how inexperience and intolerant his own party folks think he is, he would better be saving his energy for something else!!! |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics |
Edited by - dbaldeh on 04 Apr 2011 23:26:59 |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 06 Apr 2011 : 03:46:03
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Baldeh
I am not sure if Darboe is humble. He looks like a leader who is obsessed with the power. Within a few years he will be ineligible for presidency. He is soon to retire, yet he still want to run for the presidency. On contrary, an humble person would lead the party to another leader. He is done. Finished.
And his problem is not surrounded by mediocre, the problem is that he is mediocre. He proved to be mediocre when he chicken-out to senegal embassy. Or he chicken out under the shadow of Femi Peters. He could be good minister, technocrat, lawyer or grandfather. I listen to him, I read about him, he has no leadership skill, he has no charisma, he is not a good speaker. He is more looking like a nice grandfather, spending time with his grandchildren. More like a santa.
I agree with you that Mr. Daffeh has no clue about anything. Daffeh, Nyari, these people to me, more like a con-artists. I did not see any one, other than Femi Peter with hearth, showing anything positive in terms of charisma. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Moe
USA
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Posted - 06 Apr 2011 : 06:23:25
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Kobo, your problem is you think I have no common sense at all. Look at all the smoke bellowing and you think am gonna say something right now.Over my dead body... Sorry I leave this one to the UDP folks to battle till the smoke clears. Then I will explain further.. My boy Nyari is right though, just watch and see what I am cooking up...........................................Peacequote:
Originally posted by kobo
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Originally posted by Moe
Am afraid not DBaldeh, and I will tell you why Nyari is absolutely RIGHT as time permits.... there is only one political impasse and the culprit is not being blamed.Nyari has a point despite the degenerated and old fashioned methods utilized by the UDP party.......................................Peace
BE VERY SERIOUS ON YOUR POINTS HIGHLIGHTED ABOVE PLEASE
WHAT POINTS
AWAITING TO HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR
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I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
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dbaldeh
USA
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Posted - 06 Apr 2011 : 09:17:24
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Originally posted by Moe
Kobo, your problem is you think I have no common sense at all. Look at all the smoke bellowing and you think am gonna say something right now.Over my dead body... Sorry I leave this one to the UDP folks to battle till the smoke clears. Then I will explain further.. My boy Nyari is right though, just watch and see what I am cooking up...........................................Peace[quote]Originally posted by kobo
[quote][i]Originally posted by Moe
Am afraid not DBaldeh, and I will tell you why Nyari is absolutely RIGHT as time permits.... there is only one political impasse and the culprit is not being blamed.Nyari has a point despite the degenerated and old fashioned methods utilized by the UDP party.......................................Peace
Moe, Kobo's opinion of you is right on. If you have any common sense you have not displayed it here. You have shown immaturity by resorting to insults to anyone who disagrees with your views. You have called people names who are event NOT on this Forum...
You have displayed blind support for a despot without giving any thought to some of the issues people raise about your President.
You have not brought anything dissent to this forum and you have done an excellent job of degrading yourself to the lowest self esteem one can ever see... So yes, kobo is right common sense cannot be hidden...
Let's see how right I am on your respond to this thread!!!! Action speaks louder than words!
Arnanda Gaa gewdah!!! |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics |
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dbaldeh
USA
934 Posts |
Posted - 06 Apr 2011 : 09:47:57
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Originally posted by turk
Baldeh
I am not sure if Darboe is humble. He looks like a leader who is obsessed with the power. Within a few years he will be ineligible for presidency. He is soon to retire, yet he still want to run for the presidency. On contrary, an humble person would lead the party to another leader. He is done. Finished.
And his problem is not surrounded by mediocre, the problem is that he is mediocre. He proved to be mediocre when he chicken-out to senegal embassy. Or he chicken out under the shadow of Femi Peters. He could be good minister, technocrat, lawyer or grandfather. I listen to him, I read about him, he has no leadership skill, he has no charisma, he is not a good speaker. He is more looking like a nice grandfather, spending time with his grandchildren. More like a santa.
I agree with you that Mr. Daffeh has no clue about anything. Daffeh, Nyari, these people to me, more like a con-artists. I did not see any one, other than Femi Peter with hearth, showing anything positive in terms of charisma.
Turk, I must disagree with you on Darboe's personality or leadership criteria if you may...
I have sat down with him several times and spoke to him face to face about so many issues. I interviewed him and I must tell you...
I think he is one of the most intelligent men Gambia has ever had. He is humble and down to earth and sometimes don't even want to be seen playing politics. He would say "I don't want this to be seen as a campaign" instead he speaks like an ordinary citizen.
You see if you understand Gambian politics you can perhaps relate to why Darboe has a different approach to Gambian politics. He understands the kinds of people he is dealing with. You trust them today, tomorrow they betray you and turn against you.
He has personally sacrificed his wealth, his time and his successful legal practice to defend people pro bono and lead them in the political field.
One thing I admire about him, he will not act irresponsibly to endanger his life and the lives of many who depends on him. He has refused for people sitting thousands of miles away to push him to the street to put his life on the line while they run away...
Imagine, if he had agreed to follow Waa Juwara to protest in the streets against the elections in 2001?
Imagine if he has put all his fate on Rambo Jatta who defected unceremouniously to the APRC?
Imagine, what would happen to him and his family if he heeded to the numerous calls to demonstrate against the Jammeh regime while most of us are sitting comfortably in the West?
Darboe, I believe understands the kinds of people he is dealing with and therefore, he will not sacrifice his peaceful nature to aggressive, selfish and irresponsible behavior that others are calling for. They will leave him in the hall like they did when Femi Peters was jailed for one year... So knowing who you are dealing with in Gambian politics is important. They will fry you dry and go dine with Jammeh....
I believe he was genuine when he signed the NADD MOU. He got pushed out of that idea by those who thought they have more to lose by allowing others to lead. They wanted to share the cake before it was baked.
I still believe left to him alone he would not mind someone else leading a coalition... but no, some people close to him will not let him.
By the way Daffeh and Nyari is one and the same person... so don't confuse him with anybody!!!.. everyone here pretty much knows him.
Now let's see who will emerge to lead the UDP when Darboe steps aside... Its been anything but justice to this man who has sacrificed so much for his party...
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Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 06 Apr 2011 : 11:15:41
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MOE! PLEASE READ WHAT I CHALLENGE YOU TO DO AND SINCERELY SUBSTANTIATE YOUR ORIGINAL STATEMENTS BELOW
I AM JUST INTERESTED TO HEAR SOMETHING MORE INTERESTING FROM YOU BUT STATEMENTS BELOW ARE RIDICULOUS DEFINITELY I CONSIDER YOU AS HIGHLY INTELLIGENT AND "HAVE COMMON SENSE"
NYARI IS NOT YOUR 'BOY' AS FALSELY CLAIMED BUT MAY BE IMPRESSED YOU WITH CERTAIN ATTITUDE (ON EQUAL TERMS WITH YOU)
ALSO YOU ARE NOT ON UDP SIDE BUT HAPPY TO SEE ALL OPPONENTS OF YOUR IDOL AS LOOSER'S; OPPOSITION NEVER ALLOWED TO SUCCEED IN ANY CONSPIRACY TO MOBILISED AGAINST JAMMEH/APRC
PLEASE REFER BACK TO REPEATED QUESTIONS BELOW AND DO JUSTICE TO IT
quote:
Originally posted by Moe
Kobo, your problem is you think I have no common sense at all. Look at all the smoke bellowing and you think am gonna say something right now.Over my dead body... Sorry I leave this one to the UDP folks to battle till the smoke clears. Then I will explain further.. My boy Nyari is right though, just watch and see what I am cooking up...........................................Peace[quote]Originally posted by kobo
[quote]Originally posted by Moe
Am afraid not DBaldeh, and I will tell you why Nyari is absolutely RIGHT as time permits.... there is only one political impasse and the culprit is not being blamed. Nyari has a point despite the degenerated and old fashioned methods utilized by the UDP party.......................................Peace
BE VERY SERIOUS ON YOUR POINTS HIGHLIGHTED ABOVE PLEASE
WHAT POINTS
AWAITING TO HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR |
Edited by - kobo on 08 Apr 2011 08:58:11 |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 06 Apr 2011 : 13:08:37
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Dbaldhe
Thanks for the input. I guess everyone has different criteria to evaluate a leader. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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terangba
Egypt
225 Posts |
Posted - 07 Apr 2011 : 14:05:50
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With men like Koto Musa there is hope. Uniting uneducated and selfish intellectuals will not be an easy task. Sooner or later common sense will prevail.
http://www.maafanta.com/MusaJengDaffehDisgenuous.html |
God gave men dominion over the beasts and not over his fellow men unless they submit of their own free will. - Napoleon |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 07 Apr 2011 : 15:11:00
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Originally posted by terangba
With men like Koto Musa there is hope. Uniting uneducated and selfish intellectuals will not be an easy task. Sooner or later common sense will prevail.
http://www.maafanta.com/MusaJengDaffehDisgenuous.html
ALSO GAINAKO ON-LINE NEWS STGDP Understands the Challenges of Forming a Coalition; Says Musa Jeng Political Strategist UNDER http://www.gainako.com/news/news/2011/04/07/stgdp-understands-the-challenges-of-forming-a-coalition-says-musa-jeng-political-strategist.html
I THINK COMMON SENSE ALREADY PREVAIL
PLEASE NOTE FROM MUSA JENG'S LETTER AS QUOTED; "For starters, couple of years ago we sent this proposal to UDP party, the parent outfit for UDP-UK. We are few months from the General election and I am yet to see a proposal from UDP-UK or their parent party…."
WE LEARNT THESE FROM OTHER INTELLIGENT FORUM MEMBERS;
1. Janko, good point and divorcing nice faces from good policies. On the day that becomes clear, no brutal dictator or cunning exploiter will trade on the public.
Karamba with tribalism topic
2. "COMMON SENSE IS NOT COMMON" ylowe
LATEST FROM RELATED BANTABA GAMBIAN POLITICS TOPIC ‘2011 election to define Gambia’s Future’ UNDER http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10713
"The UDP is looking forward to forging an opposition alliance that can make change, come the 2011 elections, according to Darboe."
“I hope that no single opposition party will be in a situation where it will contest elections on its own; we hope that all the parties will come together, and then contest elections,” Darboe added. "UDP Leader Lawyer Ousainou Darboe
AWAITING RIGHT TACTICS, STRATEGIES, POLICIES AND TERMS TOWARDS A UNITED NATIONAL FRONT OR COALITION BUILDING APPROACH RIGHTLY DONE THROUGH NEGOTIATIONS, SO THAT ALL STAKEHOLDERS CAN TENDER A PROPOSAL OR HAVE A SAY IN IT; IN LINE WITH DEMOCRATIC RULES UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE GAMBIA - ULTIMATELY "MERGER OF OPPOSITION PARTIES" |
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turk
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Posted - 08 Apr 2011 : 04:19:08
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Where is this nyari dude? Did he run out of non-sense?
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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