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snuggels

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Posted - 28 Mar 2011 :  16:02:15  Show Profile
An interesting article in the African Business magazine entitled
"Chasing the tourist dollar"
It states Tourism has become one of the largest Global Industries earning billions of dollars every year and providing millions of jobs"

Top 10 foreign tourist spenders and the International Tourist Expenditure for 2008 and 2009

Germany $90.0bn ----- $80.8bn
United State $79.9bn ----- $73.1bn
United Kingdom $68.5bn ----- $48.5bn
China $36.3bn ----- $43.7bn
France $43.1bn ----- $38.9bn
Italy $30.8bn ----- $27.8bn
Japan $27.9bn ----- $25.1bn
Canada $26.9bn ----- $24,3bn
Russia $23.8bn ----- $20.8bn
Netherlands $21.7bn ----- $20.7bn

Top 10 African Tourist Destinations and arrivals

Egypt 12.2m
South Africa 9.5m
Morocco 7.9m
Tunisia 7.0m
Botswana 2.1m
Algeria 1.7m
Tanzania 1.2m
Uganda 0.8m
Zambia 0.8m
Swaziland 07.m

Does anyone know the above figures for tourists to the Gambia 2008 -2009 and revenue ? or last available figures.

At the African Travel Association forum held in New York in September Martinus van Schalkwyk the South African Tourist Minister went on to say we must be more innovative in our efforts to attract visitors. We must work even harder at marketing our destinations not only in our traditional markets but also in the very important emerging markets.

Many National African Tourist boards are now specifically targeting Chinese tourists along side Europeans North Americans and Japanese.

Mauritius is seeking to attract many more visitors from Brazil Russia India and China, Nandoomar Boda commented at the forum. " There is a need to diversify . That's why we are targeting the Dollar market.

It was also stated how South Africa introduced low cost airlines where fares were slashed by 50% and the market grew and the country and and obviouslyly its people have reaped the benefits of the more affordable fares
WHY NOT GAMBIA. DO THAT IN GAMBIA AND WATCH THE TOURIST SECTOR GROW. SIMPLE YEAH

It would be interesting to know what plans Gambia has in place to increas their market share so they dont lose out on this multi billion dollar tourist market




snuggels

960 Posts

Posted - 09 Apr 2011 :  11:31:37  Show Profile
As of today 80 views to thread
No Responce No Comment No Interest No suprice there then
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toubab1020



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Posted - 09 Apr 2011 :  14:03:36  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
"Does anyone know the above figures for tourists to the Gambia 2008 -2009 and revenue ? or last available figures." Woooooooo.........give me a chance slow down snuggles,

I SUSPECT that there are NO RECORDS or FIGURES available for income brought into Gambia by tourists,(even if there were it wouldn't be made public !)there may be numbers for tourists entering the country,by air at least because landing cards have to be filled in,tourists coming overland or by sea may well not be available due to the relatively small numbers who enter Gambia by that means.

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Lily

United Kingdom
422 Posts

Posted - 09 Apr 2011 :  23:55:49  Show Profile Send Lily a Private Message
I think it's a sad fact that tourist numbers to Gambia are on the decline. Probably many reasons for this but many to do with world tourism and tourist preferences rather than to do with the Gambia (itself) - although some "fault" may lie there too.

Generally however is more profitable for airlines to fly to other destinations. It is easier for tourist companies to make money if they take tourists to other countries. I don't know what The Gambia can do about this other than to do what some hotels and investors are doing - chase the high rolling tourists coming in on the smaller number of flights - which means fewer tourist, more money for a few, more profit for companies, less money for Gambians. Higher class hotels like Coco Ocean and Sheraton have tourist, more specialist smaller hotels (offering exclusive off the beaten track holidays) have tourists. The Danish flights stopped because the people taking the flights were not using the airline company's packages - not that they weren't going - (now they can't very easily!).

It's hard. Suggestions/views welcome - but who to direct them to?!

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jambo



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Posted - 10 Apr 2011 :  17:54:01  Show Profile Send jambo a Private Message
it depends what you class as tourist, on my flight there were a high percentage if travellers who had places to stay and just wanted the flights, also most of us were not staying a the big hotels, possible small number 6 or 8, but were staying at palma rima, african village. so in terms of revenue the companies were not making much from the hotels, we had 16 pax no shows going out.
check out the website thomas cook for the 1st week in decembe last showing £310 for one week.
a lot of people of visiting family and friends. so the tourist figures might be different depending on classification.
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turk



USA
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Posted - 10 Apr 2011 :  18:20:49  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
Actually, jambo this is a really good point. Gambia is not a classical tourism destination for so many visitors, it is more like a 'retirement', 'expat','family visit' destination. I go to Gambia due to my family connection, I go Gambia as a visitor. Am I tourist? No.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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Lily

United Kingdom
422 Posts

Posted - 10 Apr 2011 :  19:20:14  Show Profile Send Lily a Private Message
Good point. But there is still a decline in hotel traffic which means people are working less in the tourist resorts.
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snuggels

960 Posts

Posted - 10 Apr 2011 :  21:00:22  Show Profile
Definitian of a Tourist

Tourism is travel for recreational, leisure or business purposes. The World Tourism Organization defines tourists as people who "travel to and stay in places outside their usual environment for more than twenty-four (24) hours and not more than one consecutive year for leisure, business and ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourist

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toubab1020



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Posted - 10 Apr 2011 :  22:59:51  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Good to see NON politicos taking part and posting on bantaba in cyberspace.


"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Edited by - toubab1020 on 10 Apr 2011 23:01:35
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turk



USA
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Posted - 11 Apr 2011 :  05:41:04  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
I like the idea of visitors of Gambia staying more on smaller hotels, apartments etc. The money directly going to Gambians rather than the hotel owners. Gambian would benefit more if they are directly part of tourism business rather than working for the botels.

I am a big fan of Gambian music and dance. There are many bands/dance shows in senegambia area/hotels. One thing I noticed that these groups are very talented but they do not realize how big deal their shows are. I wish they were little bid more professional. For example, they dance from different tribes Jola, Wolof, Mandinka, suso etc... They never inform us what tribe is that. Also, there are many African stories of dances/songs but they don't really have some interactivity with the audience. I would love to listen their short stories about their songs, dances. They could attached their oral history with their dance/songs. I was watching this amazing Afro-Cuban dance show in Cuba. First the dance group informed us the origin of Afro-Cuban dance/songs, then they also told us stories along with the songs and dances. Gambia has such a rich culture but they are not effective presenting that.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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snuggels

960 Posts

Posted - 11 Apr 2011 :  13:09:26  Show Profile
Keep to the main thrust of the thread guys or start a new thread
Have a nice day
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snuggels

960 Posts

Posted - 11 Apr 2011 :  13:13:20  Show Profile
I hear what you say Toubab.To much to expect Gambia to keep such financial figures, or indeed publish them even if they did have them

But regarding tourist figures to get a rough idea if one knew how many flights a year and times it by say 220 passengers per flight. Would give a rough guesstimate anyone got any info?

What I did find interesting was how high up the list the UK tourist was in expenditure and Germany coming tops with the USA second and UK third Maybe it’s still in the British psyches to explore a left over from our empire days. lol
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snuggels

960 Posts

Posted - 13 Apr 2011 :  14:16:18  Show Profile
Ok you have had the top 10 destinatins so where does Gambia come in the pecking order Number 168 down the list.
Gambia Tourism Statistics
The Gambia's tourism industry receives over 100,000 visitors a year and is ... the gross domestic product (GDP), according to government figures.

www.accessgambia.com/information/tourism-statistics.html

Tourist arrivals increase - Daily Observer
The figures for tourist arrivals for November, 2007 have been released by the Gambia Tourism Authority. According to information secured by this...

observer.gm/africa/gambia/article/2008/1/23/tourist-arrivals-increase

Gambia Tourism in tiny Gambia takes a hit from financial crisis ...
... though squashed in a slim, fertile stretch on either side of the Gambia River -- depends heavily on tourism ... While final 2008 figures are not yet in, the latest numbers from the ...

www.eturbonews.com/6969/tourism-tiny-gambia-takes-hit-financial-crisis

GTA Monthly Tourist Arrival Statistics Released - WOW Gambia
The monthly arrival statistics figure with analysis for the month of April 2009 has indicated that tourist arrivals into the Gambia stood at 10850....

wow.gm/africa/gambia/article/gta-monthly-tourist-arrival-statistics-
released

AND finaly

Gambia - African Economic Outlook
The Gambia is a small, open economy surrounded by Senegal ... from service industries such as trade, transport and tourism ... Figure 1: Real GDP growth and per capita GDP (USD/PPP at ...

www.africaneconomicoutlook.org/en/countries/west-africa/gambia

So theres enough info to get your teeth into guys
Im sorry I dont trust the GTA figures But thats all we have

Edited by - snuggels on 13 Apr 2011 14:41:30
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toubab1020



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Posted - 13 Apr 2011 :  17:33:06  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Dr Thomas on Bantaba is you man for things in aviation,if he is still keeping a watching brief here he may provide some information

quote:
Originally posted by snuggels

I hear what you say Toubab.To much to expect Gambia to keep such financial figures, or indeed publish them even if they did have them
But regarding tourist figures to get a rough idea if one knew how many flights a year and times it by say 220 passengers per flight. Would give a rough guesstimate anyone got any info?
What I did find interesting was how high up the list the UK tourist was in expenditure and Germany coming tops with the USA second and UK third Maybe it’s still in the British psyches to explore a left over from our empire days. lol


"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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toubab1020



12306 Posts

Posted - 13 Apr 2011 :  17:35:46  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Unlikely snuggles, no political people being talked about.

[quote]Originally posted by snuggels

Keep to the main thrust of the thread guys or start a new thread
Have a nice day/quote]

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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