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kobo
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 Posted - 02 Jan 2011 : 15:31:29
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Originally posted by Dembish
Based on the ongoing efforts to unite the parties for 2011 elections,if it fails to materialise,one can conclude that PDOIS is the obstacle to the party union and they will never be forgiven by the Gambian public.democracy is about majority and minority CANNOT DICTATE TO MAJORITY, hence PDOIS just has to join UDP and the other parties if they are really sensitive to the plight of the nation as they claim to have or else their political agenda has a hidden motive other than the liberation of the Gambians from the present sad state of affairs.I am sorry but let the spade be call a spade and thats what Hamat Bah has just did.
WHY DID YOU GET YOUR FACTS OR EVIDENCE THAT PDOIS IS THE OBSTACLE AND DICTATING? DID PDOIS DECLARE THAT THEY ARE NOT WILLING TO JOIN A UNITED NATIONAL FRONT OR AN ALLIANCE/COALITION BETTER THAN NADD? DO YOU WANT PDOIS TO "CROSS-CARPET" TO UDP? WHY WAS NADD ESTABLISHED IN 2006? WHAT MADE UDP ABANDON NADD & IS THERE ANY ALTERNATIVE UNITED FRONT BETTER THAN NADD?
NADD IS NOT OWNED BY PDOIS & ITS A UNITED FRONT FOR ALL OPPOSITION PARTIES THROUGH EFFORTS OF STGDP. SO YOUR CONCLUSION IS WRONG! IT IS UDP THAT IS INSENSITIVE TO PLIGHT OF GAMBIANS. THEY ARE NOT DECISIVE, POOR ERRORS OF JUDGEMENT AND WEAK LEADERSHIP TO COURT OR PARTICIPATE IN BUILDING A FORMIDABLE COALITION; BETTER THAN NADD THAT CONSIDERS ALL STRUCTURAL ADJUSTMENTS NECESSARY TO ADDRESS ANY WEAKNESSES & FAILURES; EXPERIENCED IN 2006.
2006 IS A LOST CAUSE & 2011 IS BECOMING ANOTHER LOST OPPORTUNITY FOR UDP! |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 Jan 2011 : 16:01:41
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Originally posted by somita
Guys, to some extend I am glad i now live in the Gambia, and while i dont want to be the bearer of bad news, I would like to inform you that the opposition in the Gambia is anything but dead. Not that people a are jolly happy with the current regime, but largely because there is no clear alternative. Mr. Bah has every right to contest the coming election as president and equally citizens too every right to decide where they put their votes. One worring common attribute of the opposition parties in the Gambia, is that they lack basic sense of purpose, democratic leadership and have no solutions to problems and seem to have only one objective, to take over the matra of leadership.
If Mr Bah could take a decision such an important decision without consulting his party base, one wonders how he will rule the country.
THESE COMMENTS VALIDATE PDOIS POSITION ON TWO POINTS COVERED IN AGENDA 2011!
POINT 1. "THERE IS A BASIS FOR OPPOSITION" & THE NEED TO MOBILISE THE MASS TO ADDRESS VOTER APATHY
POINT 2. THE NEED FOR ALL OPPOSITION PARTIES TO CONSIDER A FORMIDABLE ALLIANCE & ADOPT BEST STRATEGY FOR 2011
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 Jan 2011 : 22:28:40
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IN ADDITION TO THURSDAY, DECEMBER 30, 2010 THROUGHOUT 2010; HAMAT BAH AS LEADER OF NRP & ITS NRP PARTY CONTRIBUTIONS/PARTICIPATION IN GAMBIAN POLITICS & NATIONAL ISSUES ARE SERIALISED AS FOLLOWS:-
1. Tuesday, February 09, 2010 NRP breaks silence from ThePoint, under http://thepoint.gm/africa/gambia/article/nrp-breaks-silence
2.Monday, February 22, 2010 Hamat Bah's Independence Day message from The Point, under http://thepoint.gm/africa/gambia/article/hamat-bahs-independence-day-message
3.Monday, May 24, 2010 NRP not allowed to hold rally, says Hamat Bahfrom The Point, under http://thepoint.gm/africa/gambia/article/nrp-not-allowed-to-hold-rally-says-hamat-bah
NOTE V.I.P QUOTES NOTED ABOVE:"The NRP leader further told the journalists that he has no intention of joining anybody in any alliance for a single candidate in the forthcoming presidential, parliamentary and local government elections.
"I don't believe that the NRP party for now will participate in any discussions with any opposition for the consideration of an alliance," he said, adding that he will never mortgage his party for any presidential ambition, as of now."
4. Wednesday, June 16, 2010 NRP still on its own - Hamat Bah from ThePoint, under http://thepoint.gm/africa/gambia/article/nrp-still-on-its-own-hamat-bah |
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Dembish
Gambia
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Posted - 03 Jan 2011 : 00:02:49
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Originally posted by kobo
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Originally posted by Dembish
Based on the ongoing efforts to unite the parties for 2011 elections,if it fails to materialise,one can conclude that PDOIS is the obstacle to the party union and they will never be forgiven by the Gambian public.democracy is about majority and minority CANNOT DICTATE TO MAJORITY, hence PDOIS just has to join UDP and the other parties if they are really sensitive to the plight of the nation as they claim to have or else their political agenda has a hidden motive other than the liberation of the Gambians from the present sad state of affairs.I am sorry but let the spade be call a spade and thats what Hamat Bah has just did.
WHY DID YOU GET YOUR FACTS OR EVIDENCE THAT PDOIS IS THE OBSTACLE AND DICTATING? DID PDOIS DECLARE THAT THEY ARE NOT WILLING TO JOIN A UNITED NATIONAL FRONT OR AN ALLIANCE/COALITION BETTER THAN NADD? DO YOU WANT PDOIS TO "CROSS-CARPET" TO UDP? WHY WAS NADD ESTABLISHED IN 2006? WHAT MADE UDP ABANDON NADD & IS THERE ANY ALTERNATIVE UNITED FRONT BETTER THAN NADD?
NADD IS NOT OWNED BY PDOIS & ITS A UNITED FRONT FOR ALL OPPOSITION PARTIES THROUGH EFFORTS OF STGDP. SO YOUR CONCLUSION IS WRONG! IT IS UDP THAT IS INSENSITIVE TO PLIGHT OF GAMBIANS. THEY ARE NOT DECISIVE, POOR ERRORS OF JUDGEMENT AND WEAK LEADERSHIP TO COURT OR PARTICIPATE IN BUILDING A FORMIDABLE COALITION; BETTER THAN NADD THAT CONSIDERS ALL STRUCTURAL ADJUSTMENTS NECESSARY TO ADDRESS ANY WEAKNESSES & FAILURES; EXPERIENCED IN 2006.
2006 IS A LOST CAUSE & 2011 IS BECOMING ANOTHER LOST OPPORTUNITY FOR UDP!
Well kobo I am sorry but the evidence is before every ones eye that it is the PDOIS who came with their own agenda of selecting a flag bearer for any prospective coalition,which at the first place is not necessary hence the party with the majoriy should automatically lead and if that very party be it UDP or any other party have already selected their candidate then that very person should be the leader of the coalition period.
The contention at hand here is not a matter of policy but leadership,the move of PDOIS to come out with its own agenda for selecting a leader shows show a level of foot dragging when it comes to accepting the leader of the majority party to lead the coaliton and this is the biggest conflicting issue that has to be solve before they could even move to creation of sound policies to which UDP is still willing to consensusly discuss that with all the parties to a common agreement.This leadership issue is the same reason that broke NADD simply because PDOIS with the least majority want to Dictate to NRP and UDP as to who should lead and this in any democracy is wrong.Ofcourse the position of all paties is vital once the opposition is united and no party should be undermind based on the size of supporters when it comes to policy formulation in a coalition government but at the initial stage of forming any coaliton globally, its the majority party that leads.The Uk is an existing example so what did PDOIS want? The formation of a united opposition party is a political strategy to effect the much desired change in the Gambia,hence all have agreed that is going to be much more difficult for one opposition party to win due to the voting system in place in the gambia (first pass the post).So for the PDOIS to come up with all this beating about the bush procedures of selecting a leader is not needed and the fact is they seems to be insensitive to the plight of the nation otherwise they should follow the global norm of letting the biggest party with the maority to lead, I am afraid but its as simple as that.
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
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Posted - 03 Jan 2011 : 02:36:18
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Brother Dembish,
You are absoulitely right and if the PDOIS and their cyber supporters think they can fool the Gambian voters, well they must be living in a fool's paradise. Kobo PDOIS cyber spokesman and his adversaries must realise that most of us on Bantaba are either out of the country and therefore cannot vote so the power of change lies with the voters and when you go up the provences or even around the Kombos, most people would tell you they would prefer a party led coalition and the largest opposition party with its leader can not and should not and will not follow Halifa Sallah who despite my undeniable respect for him, has manifested in his actions that every Gambian is politically, or intellectually illiterate and therefore him and only him should enlighten us and we should belief him without scrutiny.My message to PDOIS and its cyber gang is that with all due respect to my brother Hon. Sallah would be if he wants to lead an opposition coalition, then that mandate should be given to him by the voting Gambians not his cyber boys who are only robbots in the eye of the voting majority.
I maybe wrong but PDOIS used to rotate presidential aspirant and if Sedia tried and failed, Halifa tried and Failed, should it have been Sam and if Sam doesnot have an interest some one else try? So that He/She too could try their luck with the Gambian voters and see but all the time its Halifa, Halifa as if no one else is in the PDOIS or has that trend now changed permanently? PDOIS need to clear the air sourounding that and come clean to Gambians.
For us in the UDP Ousainou is elected unanimously and Dr. Yahya Jallow his deputy with all other tribes Femi Peters, pesseh Njie, Single Nyassi ect ect having representation in the shadow Cabinet.We are a diversed all Gambian Party and the party Leader has no undisputed power over any member even my humble self.He know he is chosen to lead not a prophet sent down upon us by God.
Some argued that UDP can never get the majority necessary to defeate Jammeh, well in a free and fair transperent elections without intimidations YES WE CAN and even PDOIS CAN.
We in the UDP knew from the onset that our main enemy would love to stay on at what ever cost. Even if it would cost ten thousand Gambian deaths, he would cercrifice to stay in power and therefore we as main opposition need the colaborations of other junior oppositions to unite and show Gambians and the international community that we put the Gambia above everything to end these unsolved disappearances, undemocratic and illegal crack down on our fellow citizens.
But if you guys in the PDOIS camp thinks without you we can't remove Jammeh, you have left an even bigger statement out of your thoughts. That is without US you too can never remove Jammeh! So you are more helping him to stay in power than otherwise and next election would proof me right.We have all witnessed it in previous elections when PDOIS stalwarts would be heard criticising UDP on political platforms as if they are campaigning against UDP and not APRC and am sure the same would continue.No problems we are in the glass house together and when the stone hits me today, you never know what would hit you tomorrow.
Comeon PDOIS the days are gone when just bombarding high school graduates with hyphaluting terminologies would make them leap with joy even when they don't know what you talk about just your eloquence in the english language. Gambia today has a universiity and they are not graduating in Mandinka languages or wollof there but english.So Gambia has many intellectuals that can counter any attempt to divert Gambians attention on the realities on the ground from smear tactics to gain cheap popularity.
Infact I ask PDOIS would you be albe to even sponsor parliamentary candidates in all constituencies accross the country because you have never gone beyond even 5 out of almost 40 seats?
If not how can you lead a coalition when some constituencies you don't have more than a hundred voters?
Gambians would show you at the polls come this year election which side they think is right in our arguements. It is not far away and lets wait and see.
I have heard some hater of the Mandinko tribe saying that UDP is Mandinkanised! Well I ask those thin heads if it is the fault of mandinkas to have been the largest ethnic gorup in the Gambia?If they hated to see a mandinka majority in the Gambia then they better migrate to another nation where mandinkas are few or non existant.
Even PDOIS has more Mandinka following than any tribe, the same goes for the ruling APRC party.So why accuse the Mandinkas of tribalism when most of the members of parliament were voted in by Mandinkas including PDOIS's only representative in the House Hon Sedia Jatta himself a Mandinka.
If they hate to see us then they should leave because we are now a step father to the president himself and no one harms his/her own mother's husband!
So haters of the mandinko tribe you are loosing the battle and never in the history of the Gambia would you ever win in your smear campaigns to make people belief Mandinkas are tribalist. Maybe you felt insecured and you your selves are the real tribalist and would have wished your tribes to have been the largest ethnic groupings. I assure you the reason God made us the Gambia is to combine all tribes as one under one national anthem. Stop you trumpets of hate against your fellow countrymen the Mandinkas.
Good noght
Long live the Gambia. |
Edited by - Janyanfara on 03 Jan 2011 03:27:52 |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 03 Jan 2011 : 12:39:37
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Originally posted by Dembish
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Originally posted by kobo
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Originally posted by Dembish
Based on the ongoing efforts to unite the parties for 2011 elections,if it fails to materialise,one can conclude that PDOIS is the obstacle to the party union and they will never be forgiven by the Gambian public.democracy is about majority and minority CANNOT DICTATE TO MAJORITY, hence PDOIS just has to join UDP and the other parties if they are really sensitive to the plight of the nation as they claim to have or else their political agenda has a hidden motive other than the liberation of the Gambians from the present sad state of affairs.I am sorry but let the spade be call a spade and thats what Hamat Bah has just did.
WHY DID YOU GET YOUR FACTS OR EVIDENCE THAT PDOIS IS THE OBSTACLE AND DICTATING? DID PDOIS DECLARE THAT THEY ARE NOT WILLING TO JOIN A UNITED NATIONAL FRONT OR AN ALLIANCE/COALITION BETTER THAN NADD? DO YOU WANT PDOIS TO "CROSS-CARPET" TO UDP? WHY WAS NADD ESTABLISHED IN 2006? WHAT MADE UDP ABANDON NADD & IS THERE ANY ALTERNATIVE UNITED FRONT BETTER THAN NADD?
NADD IS NOT OWNED BY PDOIS & ITS A UNITED FRONT FOR ALL OPPOSITION PARTIES THROUGH EFFORTS OF STGDP. SO YOUR CONCLUSION IS WRONG! IT IS UDP THAT IS INSENSITIVE TO PLIGHT OF GAMBIANS. THEY ARE NOT DECISIVE, POOR ERRORS OF JUDGEMENT AND WEAK LEADERSHIP TO COURT OR PARTICIPATE IN BUILDING A FORMIDABLE COALITION; BETTER THAN NADD THAT CONSIDERS ALL STRUCTURAL ADJUSTMENTS NECESSARY TO ADDRESS ANY WEAKNESSES & FAILURES; EXPERIENCED IN 2006.
2006 IS A LOST CAUSE & 2011 IS BECOMING ANOTHER LOST OPPORTUNITY FOR UDP!
Well kobo I am sorry but the evidence is before every ones eye that it is the PDOIS who came with their own agenda of selecting a flag bearer for any prospective coalition,which at the first place is not necessary hence the party with the majoriy should automatically lead and if that very party be it UDP or any other party have already selected their candidate then that very person should be the leader of the coalition period.
The contention at hand here is not a matter of policy but leadership,the move of PDOIS to come out with its own agenda for selecting a leader shows show a level of foot dragging when it comes to accepting the leader of the majority party to lead the coaliton and this is the biggest conflicting issue that has to be solve before they could even move to creation of sound policies to which UDP is still willing to consensusly discuss that with all the parties to a common agreement.This leadership issue is the same reason that broke NADD simply because PDOIS with the least majority want to Dictate to NRP and UDP as to who should lead and this in any democracy is wrong.Ofcourse the position of all paties is vital once the opposition is united and no party should be undermind based on the size of supporters when it comes to policy formulation in a coalition government but at the initial stage of forming any coaliton globally, its the majority party that leads.The Uk is an existing example so what did PDOIS want? The formation of a united opposition party is a political strategy to effect the much desired change in the Gambia,hence all have agreed that is going to be much more difficult for one opposition party to win due to the voting system in place in the gambia (first pass the post).So for the PDOIS to come up with all this beating about the bush procedures of selecting a leader is not needed and the fact is they seems to be insensitive to the plight of the nation otherwise they should follow the global norm of letting the biggest party with the maority to lead, I am afraid but its as simple as that.
Dembish
You have spectacularly expose the reality of the PDOIS game. The UDP never told them just pack your lugages and join us. What the party in fact state since 2006 is that, let the lesser party support the UDP, all other roles, post etc and the form the coalition will take, will base of our mutual agreement. They on the otherhand are putting the cart before the horse.
There premise is that, if they can just engage Gambians a bit more, there will be no need for a coalition, they will have it their way. Actually, this is what they have been for twenty five years or more now. However, their mindset is fix on the assumption that, no other Gambian, however educated, well meaning you are have sacrificed more than them. Therefore, for them to help make anyone a president is seen a blasphemy.
They don't see Yahya Jammeh any differently to Ousainou or hamat or OJ. They see them all in one compass. Read the rediculous nonsense of Al Jawara. He accuses the Mandingos of crime A and then turn around to contradict himself. I thought he was the substance abuser Jerry Jallow disguising all over again. Thanx for a honest response.
No one is ever telling PDOIS your size is an issue, all we told them is that, we cannot overturn the wishes of the Gambian opposition voters. Yes we know you don't like us, we know no one can satisfy the lufty station you have erected for yourselves, but at least we will be far better in treating Gambians than yahya with you as key players in levelling the political playing field, in entreching a two term limit for the President and other vital reforms. Sadly, PDOIS trust only themselves to make the necessary changes necessary, and if they cannot do it there way, TOUGH. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
1350 Posts |
Posted - 03 Jan 2011 : 16:47:51
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Originally posted by kobo
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Originally posted by Dembish
Based on the ongoing efforts to unite the parties for 2011 elections,if it fails to materialise,one can conclude that PDOIS is the obstacle to the party union and they will never be forgiven by the Gambian public.democracy is about majority and minority CANNOT DICTATE TO MAJORITY, hence PDOIS just has to join UDP and the other parties if they are really sensitive to the plight of the nation as they claim to have or else their political agenda has a hidden motive other than the liberation of the Gambians from the present sad state of affairs.I am sorry but let the spade be call a spade and thats what Hamat Bah has just did.
WHY DID YOU GET YOUR FACTS OR EVIDENCE THAT PDOIS IS THE OBSTACLE AND DICTATING? DID PDOIS DECLARE THAT THEY ARE NOT WILLING TO JOIN A UNITED NATIONAL FRONT OR AN ALLIANCE/COALITION BETTER THAN NADD? DO YOU WANT PDOIS TO "CROSS-CARPET" TO UDP? WHY WAS NADD ESTABLISHED IN 2006? WHAT MADE UDP ABANDON NADD & IS THERE ANY ALTERNATIVE UNITED FRONT BETTER THAN NADD?
NADD IS NOT OWNED BY PDOIS & ITS A UNITED FRONT FOR ALL OPPOSITION PARTIES THROUGH EFFORTS OF STGDP. SO YOUR CONCLUSION IS WRONG! IT IS UDP THAT IS INSENSITIVE TO PLIGHT OF GAMBIANS. THEY ARE NOT DECISIVE, POOR ERRORS OF JUDGEMENT AND WEAK LEADERSHIP TO COURT OR PARTICIPATE IN BUILDING A FORMIDABLE COALITION; BETTER THAN NADD THAT CONSIDERS ALL STRUCTURAL ADJUSTMENTS NECESSARY TO ADDRESS ANY WEAKNESSES & FAILURES; EXPERIENCED IN 2006.
2006 IS A LOST CAUSE & 2011 IS BECOMING ANOTHER LOST OPPORTUNITY FOR UDP!
Kobo,
You see that is where you go wrong.If 2011 becomes another lost cause for UDP, what about your party PDOIS?
You sometimes talk so low with hatred for the UDP that you never see the double edged sword shifted towards your party as well as any other opposition to Jammeh.We had our members unlawfully arrested Femi and others and you too had your members unlawfully arrested Sam Sarr and others!
I belief we are in the stroggle together to oust the Jammeh regime except if your party has a different agenda and that would be to frostrate all effort so as to keep Jammeh in power for good thus plunging your brother/Sister and my brothers/sisters in to more hardship.
You see kobo hatred comes from within but menifested by actions.Your actions shows your only problem is the UDP but I must inform you that the UDP has come to stay and there is nothing anybody can do anything about.
Except if there is a coup of which you kobo are the leader even that after your ban on political parties, the UDP would emerge and if you don't want the name, we can re phrace it just like the AFPRC to APRC.
So you see your hatred would continue to boil inside you until it affects your brain and judgement which would eventually affect you yourself.
I have never heard you and your collaborators dispute the fact that on the last election your party went it all out campaigning against only the UDP and out of fourty eight rallies you had all over the country, there was never one single rally where you guys did not mentioned UDP as obstacles to unity while you barely mentioned APRC and Jammeh and Gambian voters never listened to you just as they expressed in their votes. UDP defeated you in the polls.
We respect your party leaders Halifa, Sedia and Sam but we are the majority opposition and there is nothing you, Jammeh, or anybody can do anything about. So safe you breath for the day of running is near and you would be left behind when the race starts.
We have told you the events that led to the creation of NADD was flowed with betrayals and personal envies for just one individaul and you don't expect our union when UDP's views were not taken into consideration.
We went to the pools in 2001, 2006 and as UDP lost to Jammeh in both elections and PDOIS led NADD lost to UDP in both as well if you must know. Also as you said 2011 becoming another lost opporutnity for UDP, again it would be another lost oppotunity for PDOIS because a UDP led coalition defeating Jammeh, might land your MAN Halifa witha newly created prime ministerial post or vice president or even misterial post as we all knew he would definately be part of any coalition Cabinet .A position he will NEVER get under a PDOIS ticket except if he forms an alliance with Jammeh thus loosing all his credibilities to history which am sure he would never do for I too knows and respects Halifa infact he is a close brother but I support truth. But if you don't want still to heed to the wishes of the electorates as they are the voters and power belong to them, then you can as well ban PDOIS or continue aiding the Jammeh regime to retain power.
Good day.
God bless the Gambia and her people. Long live the sovereignty of our dear nation that "ALL MAY LIVE IN UNITY, FREEDOM AND PEACE EACH DAY." |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 Jan 2011 : 18:12:08
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Dembish, Santanfara & Janyafara!
IN SIMPLE TERMS; I haven't seen any FACTS OR EVIDENCE that can proof that PDOIS is CONTESTING FOR LEADERSHIP OF ANY FORMIDABLE COALITION & IF THEY DON'T HAVE IT; ARE NOT WILLING TO FORM ANY UNITED FRONT!
Coalitions manifest in a variety of forms, types and terms of duration. ALSO COALITIONS VARY FROM COUNTRY TO COUNTRY. THE POLITICAL CONDITIONS, CONSTITUTION & STRATEGIC NEED TO FROM A COALITION (GOVERNMENT) IN UK FOR EXAMPLE IS DIFFERENT FROM OUR PRESENT NEEDS FOR THE GAMBIA OUR HOMELAND!
1. BEFORE ELECTIONS!
IN UK THERE WAS NO NEED FOR OPPOSITION TO FORM ANY COALITION BETWEEN TORY & LIB.DEMS. AS THERE WERE NO POLITICAL CRISES OR BENEFIT FOR THEM.
FOR THE GAMBIA OUR HOMELAND; THERE IS URGENT NEED TO FORM A UNITED FRONT OR COALITION TO TACKLE OUR OWN POLITICAL CRISES, OBJECTIVE & BENEFIT = JAMMEH/APRC.
ALS0 A "MERGER" IS THE ONLY NORM CATERED FOR UNDER THE GAMBIA CONSTITUTION; BUT COALITIONS CAN BE USED FOR STRATEGIC, TACTICAL & CAMPAIGN TOOL IN MANY FLEXIBLE WAYS.
2. POST OR AFTER ELECTION
IN UK IT IS CONSTITUTIONAL FOR COALITION TO EXIST TO SAVE SECOND ROUND OF VOTING; WHERE NO CLEAR MAJORITY. THE LIBS. CONSULTED BOTH FORMER RULING LABOUR & TORY ON THE NEED TO FORM A COALITION GOVERNMENT; WHICH WAS THE POLITICAL OBJECTIVE.
IN THE GAMBIA WE DON'T HAVE A SECOND ROUND OF VOTING SYSTEM; AS "FIRST PAST-THE-POST" ELECTS WHOSOEVER LEADS.
BASED ON THE FOREGOING THEN WHERE IS THE UNIVERSAL ACCEPTED NORM, ETC
IN 2006 NADD CAME TO BE UNDER ADVOCACY OF STGDP AS A CAMPAIGN TOOL FOR STRATEGIC & TACTICAL REASONS. PDOIS APPEAR TO TEMPORARILY DISSOLVE LEGALLY TO CONTEST UNDER NADD; WHICH THEY PROTECTED LEGALLY & MORALLY IN SERVICE TO NATIONAL VOICES/STAKEHOLDERS. THEY NEVER DICTATE TO LEAD ANY COALITION BUT INTERVENED TO SOLVE A POLITICAL CRISES AT THAT CRUCIAL MOMENT; BECAUSE A VACUUM EXISTS. I WON'T ELABORATE ON ANY BLAME GAME FOR THAT TIME HAS PASSED & OPPORTUNITY LOST.
TOWARDS 2011 WITH INGENUITY PDOIS PLAN AHEAD OF ELECTIONS TO FORMULATE COMPREHENSIVE SOPHISTICATED PROPOSALS CONSIDERED AS ITS AGENDA FOR 2011; BECAUSE THEY ARE DYNAMIC POLITICAL PARTY. THAT DOCUMENT HAS BEEN TENDERED IN PUBLIC DOMAIN AND THEY WERE THE FIRST TO ENGAGED UDP FORMALLY; ON WHAT RESOLUTIONS THEY HAVE FOR WORKING WITH THEM IN PREPARATION FOR 2011; DURING UDP CONGRESS. UDP NEVER CONSIDER TO FORMALLY REACT; EVEN DARBOE TAKE IT TO PERSONAL LEVEL IN QUESTIONING MANDATE OF ONE PDOIS/NADD LEADERS, WHEN INTERVIEWED LATER WAR OF WORDS AND BACK ROOM DEALS PROCEEDED UNTIL MAI FATTY CAME ON BOARD. APART FROM PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN SIDIA & DARBOE, THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY FORMAL ROUND TABLE DISCUSSIONS, NEGOTIATIONS & MEETINGS; THEREFORE IT IS UNFAIR TO CONCLUDE THAT PDOIS IS DICTATING OR FIGHTING FOR LEADERSHIP; IN ANY PROSPECTIVE COALITION
FORMALITIES, CONSULTATIONS, MEETINGS, PROTOCOL PROPOSITIONS & AGREEMENTS ARE THE BASIC UNIVERSAL MORAL & LEGAL NORMS THAT MUST BE OBSERVED FOR ANY MEANINGFUL FORMIDABLE COALITION!
WITHOUT ANY PRE-CONDITION, LET THEM (THOSE INTERESTED IN A UNITED FRONT) SIT OVER THE TABLE, THROUGH SERIES OF MEETINGS AND TENDER THEIR AGENDAS, MAKE DEALS, RESOLUTIONS & AGREE ON A MUTUALLY ACCEPTED PACT; FOR A NATIONAL CAUSE TO FORWARD THE GAMBIA OUR HOMELAND |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
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Posted - 03 Jan 2011 : 23:10:25
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Oh now you did talk some sense ma brother kobo,
you see dialouge resoulves any issue and I belief
But if the PDOIS was truely interested in the formation of a coalition, as you rightly put it they contacted the UDP first why was there no formal meetings held until the later part of december when 2011 was just around the corner?
Halifa had refused to disscuss anything with any party and kept directing people to sedia who kept his distance and refusing to give reasons as to why until in december when he had the time. Sedia is a member of NADD and you know if UDP had no interest we would also say through our leader that we can only be contacted through Hon. Sanneh minority leader who is a member of UDP but our own leader himself took the initiative to go ahead despite time against all of the opposition to meet with sedia as Halifa and PDOIS led NADD wants.
Kobo tell who came with conditions in that first meeting?
If PDOIS was a party of intergrety ect well a point caustion maybe something is biting them too politically because yeater was long gone and people are very much aware politically.
They must understand this and allow the Gambia to restore its dignity through our collective colaboration not with conditions.They want primaries and we want a party led coalition.
Now what is the way forward is to either give part of our demands and they too give part of theirs and then we can furge ahead.
Otherwise let them go on their and we our own and see who looses in the end.
If Jammeh wins why not think of all the cash at the government's disposal and forceful influence with selected chiefs to do the state's bidding with green boys/girls round the clock yet UDP emerges with hundreds of thousands of votes.
You knew as well as I do these are things that angers Jammeh beyond comprehension because after his liars lie to him that the UDP this time would get nothing, and he gives all the state resources to them to buy people's votes and bring as many Cassamance people as possible with some from Guinea Bissau, yet UDP emerges with such huge votes.
You know during elections the brikama college is guarded like the state house with cooking and people parked full inside.After elections no one except the ones who brought them would know where those huge croud seen leaving in trucks during election day disappeared.
Now lets wait after elections again if we are lucky to have one with our mad parliament also weighing of Jammeh's kingship.Am sure soon it would be the main topic of discussion and nothing else.
Kobo there is more at stake for you and I to argue with each other tell your PDOIS camp to hold fire for now until the deadly issue heading for us all die a terrible death we too would hold ours. The issue of kingship if not uprooted would emerge immidiately after elections I can assure you.But if we unite, Jammeh would not fit on his seat I swear because he already knew the win of change is blowing accross the whole world.
Jammeh knows if the oppositions unite, he is finished both politically and otherwise and the only option that he would rely on would be our security forces and the Gambia is no Ivory Coast. We are all interelated despite our political differences.
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somita
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Jan 2011 : 10:13:56
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Guys, lets be realistic, the opposition in The Gambia is dead, yet no opposition party or individual has the guts to revitalise the opposition base but instead they choose to squible about alliance leadership. This is absolute madness because as things stand, Jammeh is guaranteed to win, alliance or without alliance. Let me tell you, most youths here, rather talk about their new double sim mobile with bluetooth, radio, video and picture facilities rather than talk about politics.
Ok that is generalisation.... too simplistic but what am trying to get to is that your debates seem not taking into account the facts on the ground. You seem to think that there will be a contest come the next election but from my observation, the contest is less and less significant, infact if the opposition continue this path, I can confirm to you with out fear of exergeration that Jammeh will win with over 80% of the votes. This is because the only people who will vote are Jammeh's supporters the rest would rather stay at home.
In some countries they say a day is too long in politics, in the Gambia opposition leaders and parties can afford to take holiday for years and suddenly appear before election even then without policies or programmes. Our situation is not just bad, its worse, neither governement of the day nor the opposition has any policies or programmes for our people. Of course they all make statements, including making everything a priority but in the end i have not seen any document that states clearly the way forward for the country, including how to tackle unemployment, improve quality of education, quality of heath care delivery, improve manufacuring base etc. The so call manifesto are an insult to the intelligency of our people but luckily most of us dont read them ....they are full of broad statements at best, lacking basic facts and figures, at worse they do not worth the paper they are written on. For the main time the jornalistic fraternity is only busy reproducing them to public without scruity (i will save my opinion for the Gambia journalist for another article).
Regarding the so call alliance negotiation, of course every party has a right to table their list of conditions, but any one with acute knowledge of negotiation knows that negotiating via the media is doom for failure. I wounder if the party leaders are going into this process to be seen to be doing something with the hope that they fail or are they manifesting their incompetence. The business of running a country, i.e governing people with different ideas, values etc, must be about negotiating with the ability to strike a fair balance, so if our leaders cannot negotiate, what does that tell us about them?
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Jan 2011 : 01:10:51
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Janyafara!
Oh now you did talk some sense ma brother kobo,
YOU ACKNOWLEDGE TO SEE SENSE ON SOME POINTS BUT DID NOT GET THE FACTS & EVIDENCE DISCREDITING WRONG JUDGEMENTS; ESPECIALLY CONCLUSIONS FORMED BY DEMBISH
you see dialouge resoulves any issue and I belief
DIALOGUE MAY BE FORMAL OR INFORMAL! WE HAVE ON RECORD THAT PDOIS/NADD SENT A FORMAL LETTER ("IN WRITING")TO UDP DURING CONGRESS OF UDP ENGAGING THEM; ON WHAT FORM OF ALLIANCE ARE THEY READY FOR 2011. I HAVE NOT SEEN ANY FORMAL (OFFICIAL) RESPONSE OR REACTION TO THAT EFFECT; APART FROM THE INFORMAL DISCUSSIONS CLAIMED TO OCCUR!
But if the PDOIS was truely interested in the formation of a coalition, as you rightly put it they contacted the UDP first why was there no formal meetings held until the later part of december when 2011 was just around the corner? REFER BACK TO MY COMMENT ABOVE. DECEMBER 2011 WAS NOT A FORMAL MEETING BUT COURTESY CALL & PRELIMINARY DISCUSSION BETWEEN LEADERS!
IN ADDITION; WHAT ABOUT PDOIS/NADD/HALIFA SALLAH'S/FOROYAA'S SERIES OF PUBLICATIONS & EDITORIALS; EXCELLENT DOCUMENTS LIKE "WAY FORWARD", "DISCOURSE WITH HALIFA" & AGENDA 2011" PROPOSALS/ AMONGST OTHERS
Halifa had refused to disscuss anything with any party and kept directing people to sedia who kept his distance and refusing to give reasons as to why until in december when he had the time. Sedia is a member of NADD and you know if UDP had no interest we would also say through our leader that we can only be contacted through Hon. Sanneh minority leader who is a member of UDP but our own leader himself took the initiative to go ahead despite time against all of the opposition to meet with sedia as Halifa and PDOIS led NADD wants.
PRECEDING COMMENTS ARE LINKED TOGETHER!
OTHER OBSTACLES WERE EGO ETC; INSTEAD OF PROMOTING SOLIDARITY & PARTNERSHIP TOWARDS DEVELOPMENT OF GAMBIAN DEMOCRACY! REMEMBER DARBOE'S DAMNING REMARKS ALSO;
1. "HUMAN BRAINS OR HUMAN BEINGS ARE NOT LIKE EGGS THAT CAN CARRIED IN A BASKET"
2. IN AN INTERVIEW, HE QUESTIONED "WHAT MANDATE HAS?" ONE OF THE LEADERS OF PDOIS/NADD FOR HIM TO DISCUSS WITH
Kobo tell who came with conditions in that first meeting?
WHAT FIRST MEETING WHAT CONDITIONS I HOPE YOU ARE NOT REFERING TO MEETING OF SIDIA JATTA & DARBOE IF THAT'S THE CASE; I WOULD RATE IT AS INFORMAL DISCUSSIONS, ON WHICH EACH OF THEM GAVE THEIR OWN SIDE OF STORY & OPEN TO PUBLIC TO FORM DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON WHAT TRANSPIRED? WHETHER IT IS BENEFICIAL? FOLLOW ANY PROGRESS LATER?
If PDOIS was a party of intergrety ect well a point caustion maybe something is biting them too politically because yeater was long gone and people are very much aware politically. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY POLITICAL POINT ON THIS REMARK! PDOIS/FOROYAA CONTRIBUTED MASSIVELY TO CREATE AWARENESS ON CIVIC EDUCATION, CITIZENSHIP, SOVEREIGNTY, POLITICS, ETC FOR GAMBIANS THE RECORDS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES ON LEADERS OF PDOIS & PDOIS AS A PARTY IN TERMS OF INTEGRITY,PRINCIPLES, POLICIES & AS TRUE DEMOCRATS!
They must understand this and allow the Gambia to restore its dignity through our collective colaboration not with conditions.
EXCUSE ME YOU APPEAR TO BE DELUDED THEY CREATED THE ENVIRONMENT & AWARENESS TO CHALLENGE ALL GAMBIANS TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY ON DESTINY OF THE COUNTRY! "Know yourselves, know your country, and the world. Then you shall be the architect of your own destiny." fOROYAA
They want primaries and we want a party led coalition.
PRIMARIES IS AN OPTION OR ONE OF THE PROPOSALS TO NOMINATE OR ELECT COALITION/ALLIANCE/UNITED FRONT FLAG BEARER. ITS NOT ONLY PRIMARIES, THEY ARE SELLING AGENDA 2011 AS A COMPREHENSIVE DOCUMENT; WITH A SET OF PROPOSALS & THE CONDITIONS THAT FAVOUR PGOIS POSITION; IN THE EVENT FORMAL NEGOTIATION STARTS!
WE ONLY KNEW ABOUT UDP PARTY-LED AGENDA FORMALISED 8TH DECEMBER, 2010; WHEN SIDIA JATTA DECLARED IT HOWEVER THERE ARE ADVANTAGES & DIS-ADVANTAGES; MERITS & DE-MERITS; EFFECTIVENESS, LEGAL CONSIDERATIONS, CONSENSUS OF PARTIES FORMING UNITED FRONT AND WHAT TO COMPROMISE ON TO SEAL A DEAL!
ANY PARTY INTERESTED IN FORMING A UNITED FRONT OR COALITION ARE CONSIDERED AS BARGAINING PARTIES (FAIRLY TOGETHER) BUT NOT A DOMINATING PARTY TO DICTATE THE TERMS OR PRE-CONDITIONS! NATIONAL INTEREST IS MORE ADVANTAGEOUS THAT INDIVIDUAL PARTY INTERESTS. HOWEVER EACH PROPOSAL MUST BE CONSIDERED SERIOUSLY AND SOUND DECISIONS TAKEN.
COALITION BUILDING IS NOT ABOUT SITTING IN YOUR OWN COMFORT ZONE? ITS ABOUT ADDING MORE ADVANTAGES & EXTENDING YOUR COMFORT ZONE; STRATEGICALLY & TACTICALLY TO ACHIEVE ANTIDOTE THAT IS REQUIRED TO RESOLVE A NATIONAL POLITICAL CRISES! SO LONG IT IS NATIONAL; ALL PARTIES ARE STAKEHOLDERS TOWARDS ANY PROSPECTIVE GOVERNMENT OF NATIONAL UNITY & DEVELOPMENT OF DEMOCRACY!
Now what is the way forward is to either give part of our demands and they too give part of theirs and then we can furge ahead.
Otherwise let them go on their and we our own and see who looses in the end.
RECOMMENDING TO REFER BACK WAY FORWARD BY HALIFA SALLAH/PDOIS 2009 & NEUTRAL RECOMMENDATIONS IN ON-LINE FORUMS ACROSS GAMBIANS!
WAY FORWARD IS ABOUT ALL INCLUSIVE FORMAL ROUND TABLE DISCUSSIONS & NEGOTIATIONS BY PARTIES INTERESTED IN UNITED FRONT OR COALITION BUILDING, TABLE PROPER AGENDA & PROPOSALS IN FORMAL MEETINGS TOGETHER, CONSIDER STRENGTHS & WEAKNESSES, SYNCHRONISED POLICIES, FORMULATE THE RESOLUTIONS, STRATEGIES & FINALISE AGREEMENT BY SEALING IT WITH A PACT OR MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING.
THE NADD EXPERIENCE IS A SOUND BASIS FOR REVIEW & IMPROVED UPON
Jammeh wins why not think of all the cash at the government's disposal and forceful influence with selected chiefs to do the state's bidding with green boys/girls round the clock yet UDP emerges with hundreds of thousands of votes.
BEFORE UDP EXISTED JAMMEH DEPOSED PPP. PPP HAD A LEGACY & THEY WERE BANNED WHILST UDP UPROOTED TO BENEFIT FROM HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS AGAINST JAMMEH/APRC. POLITICS IS A DYNAMIC PROCESS!
You knew as well as I do these are things that angers Jammeh beyond comprehension because after his liars lie to him that the UDP this time would get nothing, and he gives all the state resources to them to buy people's votes and bring as many Cassamance people as possible with some from Guinea Bissau, yet UDP emerges with such huge votes.
You know during elections the brikama college is guarded like the state house with cooking and people parked full inside.After elections no one except the ones who brought them would know where those huge croud seen leaving in trucks during election day disappeared.
Now lets wait after elections again if we are lucky to have one our mad parliament also weighing of Jammeh's kingship.Am sure soon it would be the main topic of discussion and nothing else.
IN SIMPLE TERMS; THERE IS A STRONG "BASIS FOR OPPOSITION", VOTER APATHY & OTHER DAMNING REPORTS AGAINST JAMMEH/APRC THAT CAN GUARANTEE THOUSANDS OF VOTES FOR OPPOSITION. HOWEVER IF THERE IS INDECIVENESS, NO ONE CAN TOPPLE JAMMEH/APRC DEMOCRATICALLY
Kobo there is more at stake for you and I to argue with each other tell your PDOIS camp to hold fire for now until the deadly issue heading for us all die a terrible death we too would hold ours. The issue of kingship if not uprooted would emerge immidiately after elections I can assure you.But if we unite, Jammeh would not fit on his seat I swear because he already knew the win of change is blowing accross the whole world.
IT IS UDP MILITANTS TRYING TO OSTRACISED PDOIS. PDOIS ENGAGED UDP SECRETARIAT WITH A FORMAL LETTER WRITTEN TO THEM; WHICH UDP DID NOT REPLY FOR ACTION ON ALLIANCE, COALITION & UNITED FRONT 2011.
Jammeh knows if the oppositions unite, he is finished both politically and otherwise and the only option that he would rely on would be our security forces and the Gambia is no Ivory Coast. We are all interelated despite our political differences.
WHY CAN'T THE OPPOSITION & ALL OPPONENTS UNITE UNDER ONE UMBRELLA DEMOLISH THE OBSTACLES ESPECIALLY PARTISAN INTERESTS. THE PARTIES ARE JUST PLATFORM AND OUR FRONT LINE BASE TO MOBILISED PUBLIC OPINIONS & WINNING VOTES THAT CAN HELP THEM SORT OUT OUR POLITICAL MESS; MAKE RADICAL CHANGES, DEVELOPMENT OF DEMOCRACY & FORWARD THE GAMBIA OUR HOMELAND
Long live the democracy of our motherland.
THE MOTHERLAND BELONGS TO BOTH APRC, UDP, PDOIS ETC; THEREFORE "AND JOIN OUR DIVERSE PEOPLES TOWARDS THE COMMON GOOD!"
THE COMMON GOOD SHOULD NOT BE HIGHJACK BY ANY PARTY OR PARTY MILITANTS |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 05 Jan 2011 : 12:06:01
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| Thanks Janyanfara for the incredible brilliant points. Stay bless. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Jan 2011 : 14:20:52
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quote:
Originally posted by Santanfara
Thanks Janyanfara for the incredible brilliant points. Stay bless.
WHAT ABOUT THE COMMENTS DO YOU THINK ITS NOT UDP MILITANCY & BIASED TO RATE THEM AS NOT "INCREDIBLE BRILLIANT POINTS" WHAT ABOUT BLESSING FOR ME
PLEASE REFER TO THESE EXTRACTED ABOVE;
"COALITION BUILDING IS NOT ABOUT SITTING IN YOUR OWN COMFORT ZONE? ITS ABOUT ADDING MORE ADVANTAGES & EXTENDING YOUR COMFORT ZONE; STRATEGICALLY & TACTICALLY TO ACHIEVE ANTIDOTE THAT IS REQUIRED TO RESOLVE A NATIONAL POLITICAL CRISES! SO LONG IT IS NATIONAL; ALL PARTIES ARE STAKEHOLDERS TOWARDS ANY PROSPECTIVE GOVERNMENT OF NATIONAL UNITY & DEVELOPMENT OF DEMOCRACY!
ANY PARTY INTERESTED IN FORMING A UNITED FRONT OR COALITION ARE CONSIDERED AS BARGAINING PARTIES (FAIRLY TOGETHER) BUT NOT A DOMINATING PARTY TO DICTATE THE TERMS OR PRE-CONDITIONS! NATIONAL INTEREST IS MORE ADVANTAGEOUS THAT INDIVIDUAL PARTY INTERESTS. HOWEVER EACH PROPOSAL MUST BE CONSIDERED SERIOUSLY AND SOUND DECISIONS TAKEN.
WAY FORWARD IS ABOUT ALL INCLUSIVE FORMAL ROUND TABLE DISCUSSIONS & NEGOTIATIONS BY PARTIES INTERESTED IN UNITED FRONT OR COALITION BUILDING, TABLE PROPER AGENDA & PROPOSALS IN FORMAL MEETINGS TOGETHER, CONSIDER STRENGTHS & WEAKNESSES, SYNCHRONISED POLICIES, FORMULATE THE RESOLUTIONS, STRATEGIES & FINALISE AGREEMENT BY SEALING IT WITH A PACT OR MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING.
THE NADD EXPERIENCE IS A SOUND BASIS FOR REVIEW & IMPROVED UPON!
WHY CAN'T THE OPPOSITION & ALL OPPONENTS UNITE UNDER ONE UMBRELLA & DEMOLISH THE OBSTACLES ESPECIALLY PARTISAN INTERESTS? THE PARTIES ARE JUST PLATFORM AND OUR FRONT LINE BASE TO MOBILISED PUBLIC OPINIONS & WINNING VOTES THAT CAN HELP THEM SORT OUT OUR POLITICAL MESS; MAKE RADICAL CHANGES, DEVELOPMENT OF DEMOCRACY & FORWARD THE GAMBIA OUR HOMELAND!"
ANY EVIDENCE OF A FORMAL MEETING APART FROM BACK ROOM DEALS & MEDIA PROPAGANDA WHERE ARE THE FACTS THAT PDOIS IS FEET DRAGGING?
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
1350 Posts |
Posted - 05 Jan 2011 : 18:09:38
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Brother Kobo,
Sometimes you amaized me a lot. Do you sometimes listen to yourself for once or atleast read your statements?
If you do you would realise that Gambians are no fools and never would be.
Sometimes I laugh out loud when I read your articles I love reading them I must confess
You said.....
PRIMARIES IS AN OPTION OR ONE OF THE PROPOSALS TO NOMINATE OR ELECT COALITION/ALLIANCE/UNITED FRONT FLAG BEARER. ITS NOT ONLY PRIMARIES, THEY ARE SELLING AGENDA 2011 AS A COMPREHENSIVE DOCUMENT; WITH A SET OF PROPOSALS & THE CONDITIONS THAT FAVOUR PGOIS POSITION ; IN THE EVENT FORMAL NEGOTIATION STARTS!
My brother I must stop reading and ask Look at your own words closely and tell me do you think Gambians are fools? Read you statement your self I have hilighted the cornestone of you agenda. what about a collective conditions that favour all parties and all Gambians?
Again you talked about.....
ME NOT GAINING ANY POLITICAL POINT ON MY PREVIOUS REMARK! PDOIS/FOROYAA CONTRIBUTED MASSIVELY TO CREATE AWARENESS ON CIVIC EDUCATION, CITIZENSHIP, SOVEREIGNTY, POLITICS, ETC FOR GAMBIANS THE RECORDS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES ON LEADERS OF PDOIS & PDOIS AS A PARTY IN TERMS OF INTEGRITY,PRINCIPLES, POLICIES & AS TRUE DEMOCRATS!
I have never disputed PDOIS's contribution and never aimed to gain anything on putting the facts before the whole world that last elections PDOIS was campaingnig against UDP than APRC and which is true. I always commend PDOIS's contribution to our national sencitisation process through it mouth piece FOROYAA and wish they would continue for still hundreds of thousands of Gambians still either did not understand their message,Or they are not interested!
But even so, my brother Kobo the above doestnot give PDOIS license to still think Gambians can be carried away.If they advocate for freedom of speach, and values democracy so much then they would respect the wishes of the voters who want a partyled coalition.
I would make it simple UDP has more followers than PDOIS inside the Gambia now RIGHT?
Why can't the PDOIS just accept that fact and see reality?
But instead my dear brother in the stroggle you went on...
BEFORE UDP EXISTED JAMMEH DEPOSED PPP. PPP HAD A LEGACY & THEY WERE BANNED WHILST UDP UPROOTED TO BENEFIT FROM HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS AGAINST JAMMEH/APRC. POLITICS IS A DYNAMIC PROCESS!
Waau but PDOIS was in existance since the first republic and is the oldest party in the first elections since the ban was just lifted.
Tell me brother kobo how comes since the first republic PDOIS has been sensiticing, educating through their mouth piece FOROYA, and campaign through PDOIS yet their message seems taken but politically they are light weight and any new party created today can defeate PDOIS?
I think Gambians are yet to understand what PDOIS meant by SOCIALISM. A lay man in provincial villages like SAMBA TAKO, KULU KULEH, TINKINJO, MAMPATAYEL villages far interior or should I come cloce to the road and Choose MAKA MASSEREH? These people can barely read FOROYA and even if they can they don't have the time.
Kobo it is not the fault of UDP with PDOIS message staying in the loud speakers they used as it seems people don't hear them that clearly.
So leave us alone" ether accept us as partners in a common effort to unseat Jammeh and restore Democracy or we all continue to pay the price for disagreeing.
Kobo you said.....I am sure you refering to somebody's comments that you said validates ......
..............PDOIS POSITION ON TWO POINTS COVERED IN AGENDA 2011!
POINT 1. "THERE IS A BASIS FOR OPPOSITION" & THE NEED TO MOBILISE THE MASS TO ADDRESS VOTER APATHY
Tell us Mr. how do we do that?
POINT 2. THE NEED FOR ALL OPPOSITION PARTIES TO CONSIDER A FORMIDABLE ALLIANCE & ADOPT BEST STRATEGY FOR 2011
How do we do that? Go by your proposal or if we don't accept which we definately would not, you do what you always do.
Campaign against UDP and forget AFPRC?
No problem then UDP is the threat to PDOIS/NADD not APRC.
If only you accept the facts and ask us the UDP to come up with a frame work of strategies as how we want to lead a coalition and then meke your points clear and how you would want changes or ammendments with some proposals included.
But how could you come up with agenda 2011 without consulting any future partner and expect us to go by that yet call us reluctant to form alliance.
My God no one hates PDOIS within the UDP we would have wish PDOIS to defeate Jammeh at the pools and I hope PDOIS also wish us the same.
But not the likes of kobo.
LONG LIVE THE GAMBIA AND HER PEOPLE
"....that all may live in unity, freedom and peace each.......
....Let God guide our action our promise we renew....."
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mansasulu
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Posted - 05 Jan 2011 : 18:47:52
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| And we all wonder why the Sheikh will romp to another landslide...and perhaps become King in the process (if he is politically astute and daring enough to put 'turning Gambia into a Kingdom' on the ballot (plebiscite))? If a fragmented and badly splintered opposition is what we have as an alternative to the APRC then long live to the Sheikh. Permit me to keep belabouring the point that we "Gambians" deserve the Sheikh. |
"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)
...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah... |
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