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kobo



United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 Dec 2013 :  06:02:53  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A very good well written interesting article from The Point News;

We Are One: Let’s look beyond politics and build a more peaceful world The more you look at our differences, the more you realize that we are the same Author: Abdoulie Sey Tel: 3655505

Published on Tuesday, December 17, 2013

Politics or the art of government is one of the most important and cherished features of civilization. The invention of government has enabled people to harmonize society and forge a collective agenda for the common good.

This is at least what all governments claim to stand for. It is this innate human desire to find strength in numbers and build security in togetherness that gave rise to nation states run by governments. The politics of these governments go a long way towards fostering peace at home and peace with their neighbours. However, it is fascinating to realize that in this age of technological wizardry, massive wealth, unrivalled scientific knowledge and better awareness about justice and equality, the world is increasingly becoming unequal and intolerant. Poverty, hatred, injustice, disease, corruption and arrogance are as prevalent as before, if not worse.

The sorry state of the world today is a direct result of what I call the ‘politics of denial’ and the failure to look beyond this kind of politics. Denial in the sense that the world’s political players, both state and non-state actors, by their actions and words continue to deny the simple truth that all human beings, never mind their religion, race or geographical location share the same aspirations in life; the desire to be delivered from deprivation and despair.

The politics of today pays little service to the collective human good. One can argue with confidence that every nation is bent on prospering at the expense of others, deliberately ignoring the obvious fact that the solution is looking beyond the divide. That is looking beyond politics. Dividing the world into ‘democracies’ and ‘non-democracies’, ‘backward’ and ‘advanced’ societies is a grave misrepresentation and a failure to recognize our common denominator- humanity....

Source: The Point News & Full Information

kobo



United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Feb 2014 :  22:08:18  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
More food for thoughts courtesy of Mafaanta.com by Ebou Gaye Intolerance: A Recipe for Conflicts and Sufferings

quote:
The Holy Qur’an reads in this regard: “Oh you who believe, We have created you from a single pair of male and female and made you into nations and tribes so that you may know each other. Verily, the most honoured among you is the one who fears God the most. God is Knowledgeable and well Experienced.”

Prophet Muhammad (saw/mpbuh) "All mankind is from Adam and Eve. An Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab, nor does a non-Arab have any superiority over an Arab; white has no superiority over black, nor does a black have any superiority over white; [none have superiority over another] except by piety and good action."


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kisley



United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 Feb 2014 :  18:08:59  Show Profile Send kisley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
so does that tolerence extend to the Gay community?
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 13 Feb 2014 :  18:50:04  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
1. Gay will never be accepted as NATURAL! NO RELIGION CAN ACCEPT AND TOLERATE GAY COMMUNITY; ESPECIALLY ISLAM IS ZERO TOLERANT ON HOMOSEXUAL ACTS BASED ON TEACHINGS OF THE QU'RAN AND "SUNNAH" (I.E. RECOMMENDED LIFESTYLE OR WHAT PROPHET MUHAMMAD ADOPTED & PRACTICED - MPUH)!

GAY IS ABOUT SEXUALITY, LUST, SEXUAL DESIRE/APPETITE/URGE AND ONLY HAVING SEXUAL INTERCOURSE OR COPULATE (COITUS). IF GAY THEN MORALLY TOLERATE BEASTLIER

2. Modern Ghana Online with a commentary/opinion on WHY HOMOSEXUALITY/LESBIANISM IS NOT SEX
quote:
Point 14. above noted "That is why all over the world, God Forbids, Sex between a Son and his Mother, Sex between a Father and his Daughter or Sex Between a Brother and Sister etc IS NOT CALLED SEX BUT INCEST because they are UNNATURAL ACTS that must be avoided at all cost and frowned upon by all Societies as Guardians of our Cultures/Values." By Prof Afrikadzata Deku

3. Ghana Myjoy Online with a commentary/opinion on Homosexuality is madness! – Kweku Baako

4. Gay rights is hot debate in the Church, dividing and undermining Christianity. Nice report with interesting comments from myjoyonline.com

Archbishop (Rtd) Desmond Tutu

Ghanaian Anglican Bishop slams Desmond Tutu over gay comment

The Anglican Archbishop of the Ashanti Region, Archbishop Yinkah Sarfo has strongly condemned retired Archbishop Desmond Tutu over his comments that he preferred hell to an ‘anti-gay’ heaven.

"Archbishop Tutu is respected in the Anglican Church and around the world but this time he has misfired and all Anglican Bishops from Africa, Asia and South America condemn his statement in no uncertain terms," he told Adom News.

The retired South African Archbishop Desmond Tutu joined the ranks of gay rights supporters when he spoke at a United Nations’ Gay Rights Campaign function in Cape Town, South Africa last week.

Archbishop Tutu stated that he would not worship a God who is homophobic, adding that “I would refuse to go to a homophobic heaven… I mean, I would much rather go to the other place [hell].” Tutu said.

Tutu likened gay rights to the civil rights battle for blacks and apartheid, saying: “I am as passionate about this campaign as I ever was about apartheid, for me, it is at the same level.”

Meanwhile, Pope Francis also said this week that he would not “judge” gay priests that are sexually inactive, if he happened to learn about their sexual orientation.

Pope Francis was speaking to reporters on a flight back from Brazil, he said: "If a person is gay and seeks God and has good will who am I to judge him?" .....


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5. Related news Tutu launches new South Africa Gay political party "As South Africa heads for nail-biting 2014 general elections Archbishop Desmond Tutu has pulled up a surprise by announcing the formation of a Gay political party called Democratic Religious Alliance Against Minority Antagonism (DRAAMA)"...


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kobo



United Kingdom
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Posted - 14 Feb 2014 :  05:12:54  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
ISLAM AND HOMOSEXUALITY

1. Homosexuality in Islam

Islam is clear in its prohibition of homosexual acts. Islamic scholars cite these reasons for condemning homosexuality, based on teachings of the Qur'an and Sunnah:
  • It clashes with the "natural" order in which God created human beings

  • It brings destruction of the family and the institutions of marriage

  • It leads people to ignore God's guidance in other areas of life

In Islamic terminology, homosexuality is alternatively called al-fahsha' (an obscene act), shudhudh (abnormality), or 'amal qawm Lut (behavior of the People of Lut). Islam teaches that believers should neither participate in nor support homosexuality.....

SOURCE: About.com Islam & more full information

2. Islam and Homosexuality

Treatment of Homosexuals

The following are excerpts on homosexuality, taken from the Saudi Ministry of Education Textbooks for Islamic Studies:
quote:
"Homosexuality is one of the most disgusting sins and greatest crimes.... It is a vile perversion that goes against sound nature, and is one of the most corrupting and hideous sins.... The punishment for homosexuality is death. Both the active and passive participants are to be killed whether or not they have previously had sexual intercourse in the context of a legal marriage.... Some of the companions of the Prophet stated that [the perpetrator] is to be burned with fire. It has also been said that he should be stoned, or thrown from a high place."
Center for Religious Freedom of Hudson Institute


SOURCE: WikiIslam & more full information

3. More on Islam and Homosexuality

The Qur'an and Homosexuality:

There are five references in the Qur'an which have been cited as referring to gay and lesbian behavior. Some obviously deal with effeminate men and "masculine women." The two main references to homosexual behavior are:

"We also sent Lut : He said to his people : "Do ye commit lewdness such as no people in creation (ever) committed before you? For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds." Qur'an 7:80-81

"What! Of all creatures do ye come unto the males, and leave the wives your Lord created for you? Nay, but ye are forward folk." Qur'an 26:165

Both references relate to gay sexual activities; lesbian practices are not mentioned in the Qur'an.

Lut is referred to as "Lot" in the Hebrew Scriptures. This passage is an apparent reference to the activities at Sodom and Gamorah. It seems to imply that there was no homosexual behavior before it first appeared in Sodom. This is a uniquely Islamic concept; it does not appear in Jewish or Christian beliefs. The passage also links the sin of Sodom (the reason for its destruction) to homosexuality.That linkage is contradicted by other verses in the Hebrew Scriptures.

The Hadith and homosexuality: The Hadith are collections of sayings attributed to Muhammad. Many Hadiths (ahadith) discuss liwat (sexual intercourse between males). Two examples are:

"When a man mounts another man, the throne of God shakes."

"Kill the one that is doing it and also kill the one that it is being done to." (in reference to the active and passive partners in gay sexual intercourse)

There is at least one mention of lesbian behavior mentioned in the Hadith: "Sihaq (lesbian sexual activity) of women is zina (illegitimate sexual intercourse) among them."

Traditionalist orthodox Muslims generally claim that the Hadith literature contains the authentic sayings of Muhammad. Many liberal Muslims doubt their authenticity. The latter might point out that during the times of the first Caliphs, Muslims did not know what to do with individuals guilty of "liwat/lutiyya". No sahabi (companion) of Muhammad could quote a saying or decision of Muhammad relating to this question....

SOURCE: Mission Islam & more full information

4. Imam Daayiee Abdullah

Meet America's first openly gay Imam

He’s been condemned by other Muslim leaders, and some local imams have even refused to greet him. But Imam Daayiee Abdullah – believed to be the only openly gay imam in the Americas – is proud of his story....

SOURCE: The Flagship & more full information







5. Islam is clearly ZERO TOLERANT ON GAY/HOMOSEXUALITY and if you are a muslim ("believer") you cannot change it and must accept the harsh treatment of gay/homosexuals. If you "not a believer" Islam condemns all forms of gay/homosexuality acts but leave you with your faith, choice & lifestyle; quoting Qur'an 109:1-6 "“To you be your religion, to me be mine.” .." with reference of the tolerance of the Prophet Muhammad (mpbuh) towards other religions

6. THE BOTTOM LINE IS "WE ARE ONE" (HUMAN RACE) BUT WITH DIFFERENT SHAPE, INSTINCTS, MENTALITY, PREFERENCES, ORIENTATION, BELIEF, CHOICES, SUBJECTIVITY, THOUGHTS & HOPES AMONG OTHER MULTITUDE OF FACTORS INFLUENTIAL TO US AND WITH PROFOUND IMPACT ON OUR LIFE!

IN A SENSE EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT AND MUST ACKNOWLEDGE DIVERSITY IN SOCIETY, COMMUNITY, CULTURE, BEHAVIOUR, ATTITUDE & PERSONALITY (i.e PERSONAL IDENTITY: "the sum total of the physical, mental, emotional, and social characteristics of an individual.")

Edited by - kobo on 14 Feb 2014 15:11:41
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 14 Feb 2014 :  14:57:52  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
1. "WE ARE THE WORLD! WE ARE THE CHILDREN! WE ARE THE ONES WHO MAKE A BRIGHTER DAY SO LET'S START GIVING!" RIP! Michael Jackson & Bob Marley "One Love One Heart!"






WE CANNOT ALLOW ANYONE TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT BUT CAN MAKE THIS WORLD A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE!

BOB MARLEY ASKED "IS THERE A PLACE FOR A HOPELESS SINNER?" YES TURN TO GOD BUT WHICH GOD YOU HAVE TO FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF FROM YOUR RELIGION (IF YOU HAVE FOUND ONE)


HEAL THE WORLD!

2. Related Bantaba topic You Are The Mirror

Edited by - kobo on 14 Feb 2014 20:52:33
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 14 Feb 2014 :  19:51:43  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
SELECTION OF WONDERFUL INSPIRATIONAL HUMANITY FOR WORLD PEACE & LOVE TAGS!



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Edited by - kobo on 14 Feb 2014 21:22:14
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kisley



United Kingdom
214 Posts

Posted - 14 Feb 2014 :  20:17:25  Show Profile Send kisley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A very brave man, his only crime was that he "FELL IN LOVE"

https://www.allout.org/en/actions/remember-roger

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kisley



United Kingdom
214 Posts

Posted - 15 Feb 2014 :  11:22:16  Show Profile Send kisley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A more measured response from Mehdi Hasan, writng in the "New statesman"

"As a Muslim, I struggle with the idea of homosexuality – but I oppose homophobia"

http://www.newstatesman.com/mehdi-hasan/2013/05/muslim-i-struggle-idea-homosexuality-i-oppose-homophobia
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kobo



United Kingdom
7765 Posts

Posted - 17 Feb 2014 :  10:14:53  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
[quote]Originally posted by kisley

A very brave man, his only crime was that he "FELL IN LOVE"

Roger Jean-Claude Mbédé Gay Campaign



Kisley what is your point and gay campaigners on EQUALITY in this campaign for "ALL OUT EQUALITY EVERYWHERE"? You have to understand that the human race and/or NATURALLY all living things are classified into male and female species. ALL MALE/FEMALE ARE EQUAL BUT THEY CANNOT ENGAGE IN UNNATURAL AND FILTHY SEX ACTIVITIES; LIKE GAY/HOMOSEXUAL SEX LIFE, INCEST AND BESTIALITY (ZOOPHILIA); TO SATISFY THEIR LUST NEEDS! ITS ABOUT MENTALITY, PSYCHE (PSYCHOLOGICAL), DESIRE, LUST, PASSION ETC; SOMETHING YOU CRAVED FOR AS YOUR PERSONAL NEEDS; LIKE CRAVING FOR FOOD WHEN HUNGRY AND WATER WHEN THIRSTY! ARE YOU TELLING US THAT EVERYONE HAS RIGHT TO SATISFY YOUR SEXUAL APPETITE

INDIVIDUALLY WE DON'T HAVE RIGHT TO DO WHATEVER WE WANT IN LIFE. WHAT ABOUT PERVERTS, DEPRAVED, EVIL AND TWISTED MINDS? WE DON'T LIVE LIKE ANIMALS AND JUMP ON EACH OTHER; IF WE WISH ANYTIME

WIKI REFERENCE.COM USEFUL INFORMATION PAGE ON Bestiality = Zoophilia

In copulation (i.e. natural sexual intercourse and penetration) the male organs function for special purpose and likewise female organs; both sexes fully satisfied with benefit to sustain life through reproduction. Think about that

Edited by - kobo on 17 Feb 2014 19:20:40
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kisley



United Kingdom
214 Posts

Posted - 18 Feb 2014 :  12:10:17  Show Profile Send kisley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"THINK OF THAT"

Think of what, Kobo???
All you have done is churned out the same old tired bigoted arguments that we've heard a hundred times before

Then it's the usual demonisation of the "gay community" by linking them with paedophillia, rapists, beastillity etc, etc, etc,etc,.

Sexual predators constantly on the look out for the next sexual conquest so they can satisfy their uncontrollable lust

Rdiculous outdated stereotyping!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


2 Dads & 5 adopted children brave homophobia & racism
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp16BVPtyvk

Gay dads raise 12 adopted kids
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nahifhpm9-8

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kisley



United Kingdom
214 Posts

Posted - 18 Feb 2014 :  13:43:06  Show Profile Send kisley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
People shouldn't have to live in fear because of the bigotry of others
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kobo



United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Feb 2014 :  07:39:08  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
[quote]Originally posted by kisley

"THINK OF THAT"

Think of what, Kobo???
All you have done is churned out the same old tired bigoted arguments that we've heard a hundred times before

I don't think you understand and get my point on sexual intercourse from MY STATEMENT that:

"In copulation (i.e. natural sexual intercourse and penetration) the male organs function for special purpose and likewise female organs; both sexes fully satisfied with benefit to sustain life through reproduction. Think about that"

POINTS TO NOTE: THAT;

We are human beings (homo sapiens) but naturally there are only two species (of male & female gender) but all male have same organs likewise female. Therefore "All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights....

Also fundamentally these are the main and only natural instincts we equally share in common; eat, drink, sexual intercourse, excretion, sleep, life, growth, reproduction & death.

But different mindsets (i.e mental phenomena or psychology of the individual) influence human behavior, attitudes, appetite (desire, pleasure), belief, opinion, creed and sense of perception;among others. Therefore my points on SEXUAL INTERCOURSE (TO POINT OUT NATURAL THINGS WE SHARE IN COMMON) does not make me a bigot

I don't think sexual intercourse (canal or by penetration) is not happening or not important between gay/homosexual couples. Then how is adaptation of gay/homosexuality lifestyle or orientation different and morally right or good in society better than incest, bestiality and perverts; if it's all about craving for the natural love for SEXUAL INTERCOURSE. HUMANS EITHER INDULGE IN CANAL SEXUAL ACTIVITY (SEXUAL INTERCOURSE) OR ABSTAIN FROM IT. THAT IS LIVING BY VIRTUE OF CHASTITY (VIRGIN / CHASTE) OR UNCASTE

ALL MY STATEMENTS ARE WITHIN THE BORDERS OF SENSUAL PLEASURES; ISSUES ("pertaining to, inclined to, or preoccupied with the gratification of the senses or appetites; carnal; fleshly; chastity; (may be) lacking in moral restraints; lewd or unchaste.")

It is important to understand these terms because SEXUAL ORIENTATION is preference, fondness, predilection or tendency to think favorably about sexual partnership(between two individuals) and its A CHOICE formed in the HEAD or MIND POWER and personal appetite;

BOTTOM LINE IS ALL ABOUT SEXUAL INTERCOURSE AND WHICH IS NATURAL BUT NOT A TABOO

Edited by - kobo on 19 Feb 2014 08:52:05
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rassimian

United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Feb 2014 :  12:57:38  Show Profile Send rassimian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here we go again. The bias shown against homosexuality by most religions including Islam and Christianity is based on historical and scientific ignorance ,in other words a complete lack of understanding. Kobo, your quote about Sexual Orientation is WRONG. Sexual orientation is NOT a life CHOICE. We are born with a certain sexual predisposition ie. heterosexual,homosexual ,in the wrong body (transgender)There is plenty of evidence to show that from an early age people are aware of their sexual orientation. The fact that gay men marry and have children only shows what is biologically possible. Being Gay and coming out is not easy for both men and women given the reaction by religious societies. I'll tell you what I really hate and that is any religion that claims it is " loving,compassionate,forgiving or understanding towards all mankind" when in fact they show no tolerance towards anything that threatens their control over their 'believers' As far as homosexuality goes it existed way before the Bible or Quran or any other book was written.It is not a 'western' thing as some people claim and is as prevalent in India, China, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Gambia, Uganda etc as it is in the UK,France, Spain or the US. Just imagine if heterosexuality was treated like homosexuality because it was a minority practice. All that hatred, for what, because you were born that way ! WAKE UP and educate yourselves. Don't accept blind faith. Question everything! Ah no you can't do that can you. Cos your religion controls you . You are not a free man. Ignorance is to be pitied but at least I understand why people hold the views you do. Islam needs to move forward into the 21st century as does certain sects within Christianity but unfortunately this ain't gonna happen ant time soon. Nuff said !!
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kobo



United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Feb 2014 :  19:37:47  Show Profile Send kobo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
SHARING A FANTASTIC JOKE AND FOOD FOR THOUGHT
quote:
"A man and his wife were arguing about gender. Who is greater? Men or women.

Wife: Men are the head but women are the neck, without the neck, the head cannot stand. Men were created out of dust but women were created out of bone. Also, anything man can do, a woman can do it better. And in the life of any successful man there must be a woman.

Man: A woman is not complete without a man because you cannot spell "woman" without "man". You cannot spell "she" without "he". Nor "Mrs." without "Mr." Nor "madam" without "adam". And one more thing, why is it that we say "aMEN" in the prayers instead of "aWOMEN""

SOURCE: Akpos (Unknown author)


Naturally/biologically we are born as either a man or woman (i.e.with opposite qualities having male organs or female organs) and in very rare biological/natural hermaphroditic cases (i.e. with neither any of them can be exclusively considered a man or woman fully. A bisexual, with two opposite qualities of sexual organs are combined.) one may be trapped in the wrong body.

Our natural body defines us individually (i.e. physical appearance and gender/sex - male or female) and not the moral values, our mind-set or psychological orientation nor the systems of society or social systems; including any world order, establishment, government, religion, ideology, secularism, movement, institution, class, creed, conviction, persuasion; inter alia.

GENDER: Dictionary.com QUOTES;

" The number of genders in different languages varies from 2 to more than 20; often the classification correlates in part with sex or animateness. The most familiar sets of genders are of three classes (as masculine, feminine, and neuter in Latin and German) or of two (as common and neuter in Dutch, or masculine and feminine in French and Spanish)."

NEUTER: "Noting or pertaining to a gender that refers to things classed as neither masculine nor feminine" OR " having imperfectly developed sexual organs."

Edited by - kobo on 28 Feb 2014 10:55:54
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kisley



United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 Mar 2014 :  16:47:29  Show Profile Send kisley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
very odd!

You would think from reading the abundance of paste and copy that this site has been bombarded with, that gay men spend all their time having lustful sex..
Obviously they don't fall in love, have secure and loving relationships, have friendships, contribute to society, are morally good people...

STOP DEHUMANISING PEOPLE.

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