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Dalton1
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turk
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 Posted - 16 Sep 2010 : 15:52:38
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yj
Yahya Jammeh! I did not know Dalton1 is actually president of the Gambia!
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Dalton1
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Posted - 16 Sep 2010 : 16:06:16
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Bro Turk,
I know you are inserting a sarcastic humor. :)
Just between you and me, Dalton will never aspire to be a political leader. I constantly ask God to distance me from such a seat. There are more pleasurable things for me to do than being a political leader, much more a president. May Allah (my Walih) never make me one.
Take care, & happy belated eid.Thanks for your honor, but give it to others like Kay,etc who can handle the seat....I am not capable, for real.
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"Simple is good, & I dislike politics." 2bab
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"There is no god but Allah (SWT); and Muhammad (SAW)is His last messenger." shahadah. Fear & Worship Allah (SWT) Alone! (:
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kayjatta
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Posted - 16 Sep 2010 : 18:47:42
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Dalton, I want the job, even for one year (no one term is ok ). I will make the Gambia so good people will beg me to stay... |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 16 Sep 2010 : 20:04:09
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| Kay would be the next Stalin of Africa to forbid preying and declare crusade/war on Iran. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 16 Sep 2010 : 20:47:37
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Be sensible turk ,just try, its not very hard,even you can manage it.This rubbish talk and insults to people is getting a little boring,even if it does keep bantaba ticking over,even Karamba appears to have even given up !MOE left some time ago to enjoy oiley benichin in peace
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Kay would be the next Stalin of Africa to forbid preying and declare crusade/war on Iran.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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kayjatta
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Posted - 17 Sep 2010 : 08:18:11
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Kay would be the next Stalin of Africa to forbid preying and declare crusade/war on Iran.
1. The State House Mosque (and its mosque committee) for sure will go.
2. The Supreme Islamic Council (SIC) will be on it's own. There will be no govt support. They will not visit me at the State House.
3. Judges will have a life-time appointment subject to confirmation by the National Assembly (total independence of the Judiciary).
4. National Assembly candidature will be determined by primaries, independent of presidential influence (total independence of National Assembly members from the executive).
5. Some key cabinet positions will be given to the opposition (except UDP- just kidding ).
6. Total press freedom, freedom of speech and political assembly.
7. Will create a State House press corp and have all major newspapers assign a reporter to the State House.
8. There will be regular press briefings
9. Will pass a freedom of information act with cooperation with the National Assembly...
10. Every region (example, WR, NBR, CRR, URR, etc) will be allocated a development budget based on census data, without political consideration.
11. Free education (no school fees) up to high school
12. Will bring back habeas corpus into law, with cooperation with the National Assembly and the Judiciary.
13. Reform the IEC and the electoral laws
14. Will privatize NAWEC.
15. Development of electricity, roads, transportation and social amenities will be tightly co-ordinated with new and existing settlement patterns.
16. GRTS and the Daily Observer will be privatized.
17. Family law will be re-written.
18. Domestic violence (especially against women and children) will be criminalized.
18. Emphasis will be given to agriculture (production and marketing), tourism, re-export trade, and light manufacturing.
19. I will wear a suit, not Chairman Jammeh-style Burqa.
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dbaldeh
USA
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Posted - 17 Sep 2010 : 10:41:06
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Sounds very promising Kayjatta. I will take you over the dictator anytime. Complete press freedom??? Oh my God never heard of that in Africa.
You are my nominee for the 2011 leader of opposition Unity Party.
One very important thing that is missing. Presidential Term Limits. and second round of voting. This must be included to safe guard future perpetuation of power.
Go Kay!!! |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics |
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toubab1020
12311 Posts |
Posted - 17 Sep 2010 : 10:49:30
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KAY,
Such a clear and sensible manifesto without political wriggle room, you will fail to be elected,especially as there is no mention of my favorite Gambian being given his job back! I also fail to see any shining lights in the Gambia that you could select to form an effective administration. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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toubab1020
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Posted - 17 Sep 2010 : 11:04:08
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Call the party, The Very Sensible Peoples Party (VSPP for short)
don't know about the 2nd round of voting bit,a first past the post system leads to more certainty and stops a second round of lobbying and untenable offers being offered by all sides to ensure victory,not a good idea if you are unable to set your table out correctly in the first instance why be forced to tinker when that goes against you.
I know "I strongly dislike politics",but couldn't resist posting
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Originally posted by dbaldeh
Sounds very promising Kayjatta. I will take you over the dictator anytime. Complete press freedom??? Oh my God never heard of that in Africa.
You are my nominee for the 2011 leader of opposition Unity Party.
One very important thing that is missing. Presidential Term Limits. and second round of voting. This must be included to safe guard future perpetuation of power.
Go Kay!!!
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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kayjatta
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Posted - 17 Sep 2010 : 11:27:48
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Originally posted by dbaldeh
Sounds very promising Kayjatta. I will take you over the dictator anytime. Complete press freedom??? Oh my God never heard of that in Africa.
You are my nominee for the 2011 leader of opposition Unity Party.
One very important thing that is missing. Presidential Term Limits. and second round of voting. This must be included to safe guard future perpetuation of power.
Go Kay!!!
DBaldeh, there will definitely be a two-term presidential term limit signed into law (although UDP don't like to hear that )... |
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kayjatta
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Posted - 17 Sep 2010 : 11:32:43
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Originally posted by toubab1020
KAY,
Such a clear and sensible manifesto without political wriggle room,you will fail to be elected,especially as there is no mention of my favorite Gambian being given his job back! I also fail to see any shining lights in the Gambia that you could select to form an effective administration.
Yes Toubab, good ideas are often not enough. In Gambian politics especially, you also have to learn to sing and play the drum...
Moses Richards will most likely get a place on the bench as a Judge. But he has to be confirmed by the National Assembly, Toubab. The days of arbitrary hiring and firing would be gone...
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toubab1020
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Posted - 17 Sep 2010 : 13:07:48
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KAY,
I appriciate all that you have said and the "play the drum observation is noted,NOTHING is clear in politics that is why I feel as I do,I added the bit about Moses Richards,just to exeplify the type of Gambian who should be in an administration,thats all no hero worship
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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turk
USA
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Posted - 17 Sep 2010 : 13:19:39
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Not good enough for my standards. And do not address the critical problems Gambia facing.
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The Supreme Islamic Council (SIC) will be on it's own. There will be no govt support. They will not visit me at the State House.
I would not vote for a president who does not have open door policy, specifically a president who does not talk a group because simple they are religious. The president should have open door policy and neutral. The second item in your manifesto to ban Religious people to access to president is a sign for Kayjatta presidential term will be similar to Stalin.
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Judges will have a life-time appointment subject to confirmation by the National Assembly (total independence of the Judiciary).
Not good enough for me. The deciding of regular Judges and Supreme court judges would be different process. A council for Judges and Prosecutors should be established and this council should have total control of hiring, firing judges. Neither legislative assembly nor executive has any power over it. Supreme Court that tries the special cases like ‘coup attempt’, acting like ‘constitutional court’ would have judges with limited terms. The council of Judges and Prosecutors would provide three candidates to the National Assembly and the most vote in the assembly would get the post for 5 years spot in supreme court.
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4. National Assembly candidature will be determined by primaries, independent of presidential influence (total independence of National Assembly members from the executive).
When you say ‘president’ are you saying president of the Gambia. If that is the case you are confused with the concept. President has no say about National Assembly candidature. That is the process of each political party. How the hell president has anything to do with the selection of National Assembly candidature. Don’t make me laugh. How can president have any influence of National Assembly candidature of PDOIS candidate?
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5. Some key cabinet positions will be given to the opposition (except UDP- just kidding ).
LOL. This is a joke right?
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9. Will pass a freedom of information act with cooperation with the National Assembly...
How? Provide more details? What type of information does ordinary citizen would have access? More details.
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10. Every region (example, WR, NBR, CRR, URR, etc) will be allocated a development budget based on census data, without political consideration.
Not good enough. This would be ok to have money distribution to every region on fair basis, but in addition I would do even better to have a taxation authority to these regions to control their income themselves. De-centralization.
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11. Free education (no school fees) up to high school
As Americans says. “show me the money”.
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12. Will bring back habeas corpus into law, with cooperation with the National Assembly and the Judiciary.
Judiciary has no cooperation with neither executive nor legislative organs. Total independence.
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13. Reform the IEC and the electoral laws
Reform of what?
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14. Will privatize NAWEC.
Why do you privatize, and what is the benefit?
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15. Development of electricity, roads, transportation and social amenities will be tightly co-ordinated with new and existing settlement patterns.
I am not satisfied. This is reactive response. It is much better to be pro-active and influence the new and existing settlement patterns. For example, incentive for settlement in east. Restrictions on settling in West. The state must influence this. I would have move the capital city to somewhere else in east. Banjul and surrounding areas would be industrial free zone. The industry should move to north.
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17. Family law will be re-written.
What do you change?
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19. I will wear a suit, not Chairman Jammeh-style Burqa.
This is a single reason I would not support you as a president of the nation.
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Moses Richards will most likely get a place on the bench as a Judge. But he has to be confirmed by the National Assembly, Toubab.
Will you be a brutal dictator? That is itself is the single reason why you should not be a president. President should not have any say who will be the judge.
I would have much better manifesto.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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kayjatta
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Posted - 17 Sep 2010 : 13:39:22
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| Ok will clarify for you Turk. I guess I have to speak to the everybody first and then later clarify/simplify for Turk... |
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turk
USA
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Posted - 17 Sep 2010 : 14:18:38
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I would have serious doubt about a presidential candidate promising me what to wear, or what color the room in the presidential palace to be. I don't want simplifying. I want detail solution. Like you said, Education is free. I am not going to believe you if you don't tell me how you will get the money for it.
Your empty promises are not good enough for my standards. Education will be free. How, typical political promises, it will be free, but where is the fund? |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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