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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 21 Aug 2010 : 18:21:36
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Originally posted by MADIBA
Insults dont win elections. Neither can you fishing from a mountain top.
I have been home for sometime from my UK base and all i can see is a landslide for the APRC. If the opposition do not sort its house soonest.
This political bickering shows a lot of amateurism on the side opposition stalwarts. The Jammeh camp is laughing right now.
Disgraceful!
Please spare Momodou the foul-mouthing. Show respect for the seniors. Atleast thats what people from disciplined homes are supposed to do.
Well if he acts dummy, call him dummy. It is as simple as that. If you interpret that as an result, then that is a matter for you. I am not bothered.
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kayjatta
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Posted - 21 Aug 2010 : 21:46:14
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Originally posted by Nyarikangbanna
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Originally posted by kayjatta
....Does UDP even have a "code of conduct"?
UDP is not a communist party and therefore do not have a code of conduct for its members. For the UDP, it is the substantive law of the land that is the code of conduct for every citizen irrespective of opinion, belief, background or party affliation, and they are certainly not in the business of developing a surrogate mind in their followership. They believe people should be free to possess an independent mind capable of making independent decisions rather than being indoctrinated on values or their behaviours micro-managed by a bunch of control-freak political tzars as if party followers and supporters are a pack of irresponsible and low thinking human beings who are not capable of managing their own affairs let alone to responsibly participate in national affairs.
Regards
Every serious organiztion or association have a "Code of Conduct". Any organization that expects a higher standrd of character from its members must have a code of conduct for its members. Not only political parties, but Bar Associations, National Assemblies, corporations, Medical Associations,universities and other govenmental, private and professional bodies all have codes of conducts for their member. In most of these cases the constitution, which everyone has to comply with, is not enough for the higher standard of expectation required of these professionals and public trustees.
It is unfortunate, but very revealing that UDP does not have a code of conduct!!! That means, vote buying (like Terangba acknowledged) is acceptable, and felons including accused murderers could be sheltered and continue to serve in the party  . Furthermore, if no higher standard of conduct is expected of UDP members than ordinary citizens, what would a UDP govt. look like? Another PPP or APRC where convicts and corrupt officials are recycled on a daily basis while many others continue to survive scandal after scandal without gov. or party intervention.
If you don't have a code of conduct, then any conduct may be acceptable. If you don't stand for something, UDP, then you will fall for anything! You don't have to be a communist to have a code of conduct! |
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21 Aug 2010 : 23:05:45
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In democracies, the convention is that political parties should have a constitution that provides the framework in which the affairs of the party can be conducted and in line with the substantive laws of the land. The UDP is not a communist party. It does not need a code of conduct and never will. For the UDP and as was previously stated, it is the substantive law of the land that is the code of conduct for every citizen irrespective of opinion, belief, background or party affliation, and they are certainly not in the business of developing a surrogate mind in their followership. They believe people should be free to possess an independent mind capable of making independent decisions rather than being indoctrinated on values or their behaviours micro-managed by a bunch of control-freak political tzars as if party followers and supporters are a pack of irresponsible and low thinking human beings who are not capable of managing their own affairs.
Standards in national affairs are suppose to be set by the law. This can be achieved by way of enforcing existing laws, and if they are inadequate, then through legislation or constitutional reforms. The idea of having control-freak political tsars sitting in a rundown office trying to set standards for the rest of the society is palpably absurd and inconcievable in a democratic society.
Like all democratic parties, the UDP has a constitution and that is enough, thank you very much.
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I do not oppose unity but I oppose dumb union. |
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turk
USA
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Posted - 22 Aug 2010 : 00:03:29
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MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING ESTABLISHING AN ALLIANCE OF OPPOSITION PARTIES IN THE GAMBIA
Code of Conduct of NADD
www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=209
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Firmly convinced that an alliance transcending ideological and other differences in principle, policies and programmes could augur well for the country by ensuring the adherence to a common code of conduct and thus consolidate a culture of respect for fundamental rights and freedoms, democratic participation, tolerance of diversity that can serve as a launching pad for genuine multi-party electoral contest based on diverse principles, policies programmes and practices
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J. establish a code of conduct that will put an end to the politics of slander, character assassination, patronage and intimidation and replace it with the politics based on enlightenment, principles, policies and programmes.
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15. The Alliance shall prepare a Code Of Conduct to guide the political conduct of its member parties and its supporters within one month of the coming into force of this agreement to ensure that slander, intimidation, inducement and appeal to ethnic, religious and other divisive sentiments shall be expunged from the platform of the Alliance.
Did UDP sign this? Did they oppose this?
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National Democratic Action Movement (NDAM)
National Reconciliation Party (NRP)
People’s Democratic Organisation for Independence and Socialism (PDOIS)
People’s Progressive Party (PPP)
United Democratic Party (UDP)
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 Aug 2010 : 01:43:39
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Nyari
If you represent the UDP youth, then its unfortunate. Becos that sulkiness will never earn the party respect, much more votes.Youth are said to be future leaders. What would be future of UDP gov't wit such a youth? Chaos ! |
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 Aug 2010 : 02:00:07
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Originally posted by MADIBA
Nyari
If you represent the UDP youth, then its unfortunate. Becos that sulkiness will never earn the party respect, much more votes.Youth are said to be future leaders. What would be future of UDP gov't wit such a youth? Chaos !
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I do not oppose unity but I oppose dumb union. |
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 Aug 2010 : 02:21:00
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GAMBIA "NA BAANKO!" = GAMBI "SUNU REW SOPA NENGLA NDAH FILEENG GUDO!"
LONG LIVE APRC/JAMMEH! |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 22 Aug 2010 : 03:31:13
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| Madiba, forgive Nyarikangbanna, he is a sociopath. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 22 Aug 2010 : 03:59:34
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Sorry I was not enlighten on 'code of conduct' subject. Why is having 'code of conduct' too bad for PDOIS now while UDP has supported a 'code of conduct' before?
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Momodou
Denmark
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Posted - 22 Aug 2010 : 12:23:43
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Originally posted by Nyarikangbanna
If you have a vote [I know you don't] and seriously want to explore other party programmes, I suggest that you contact their secretariats in Banjul. However, if you do need help from the UDP/UK then you have to pay a subscription of £600.00 or $1000.00 as we are a fundraising body, and would not waste our precious time helping out disingenuous people like you...
Nyari,
"Nteh buka kereng sang tung kono" (I don’t buy a squirrel in the an ant hill). Even if I can't vote, you know I am able to contribute any amount more than many of you guys in the UK to the badly needed funds. You have a task that is to convince me and many others why we should embrace your party. The earlier you ask your party provide the requested manifesto and other information material to the public or even an updated website, the better. What I see about your manifesto is "Coming soon" at: http://www.udpgambia.com/manifesto.html
During the years, I have seen many folks abroad become very vocal for the opposition just to strengthen their asyl cases and then fade away when they gain the status. These people have spoilt many chances for the opposition only for their selfishness.
Definitely I know many humble people in the UDP who would never behave in such a way as you. I wonder what you think you can gain for the party with your arrogance.
By the way, what is this?: http://www.udpgambia.org/ |
A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone |
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turk
USA
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Posted - 22 Aug 2010 : 12:46:49
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Momodou
These questions were asked repeatedly here and here But wanna-be-clueless-mr-politician-nyarikangbanna can't answer. We have asked many times about what UDP is about. But as we knock the door, we got no response. The question is if UDP is also empty like Nyarikangbanna. That is what we want to know.
You, providing Bantaba site, as an individual made more contribution to Gambian politics than UDP can ever do online. You as an individual is more capable than UDP as an organization. This dude has not been taught any manner how to behave where he is a guest, in Bantaba.
Did Nyarikangbanna realize that bantaba has more information about UDP than UDP's official website? Did this dude realize that in bantaba he or she can advocate his or her rubish not in udp.com? Looks like bantaba has more to offer Gambians than UDP. Is he capable of understanding that? I don't think so. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 22 Aug 2010 14:10:54 |
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kayjatta
2978 Posts |
Posted - 22 Aug 2010 : 16:13:06
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| Excellent posts Turk and Momodou! I can't agree more. |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 22 Aug 2010 : 17:04:20
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Originally posted by kayjatta
Excellent posts Turk and Momodou! I can't agree more.
Ok, kayjatta. All I need you to be nice and condemn flotilla raid. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Janko
Gambia
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Posted - 22 Aug 2010 : 21:50:42
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turk,
am not blaming the Turk,no.Just a word for the wise, if you want an answer from UDP-UK, use your diplomatic "färdighet", they can not resist that.
I thought we agreed there is a difference between "sociology" and "Socialism" ... or did you change your mind   .
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Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 22 Aug 2010 : 22:10:12
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Janko
Sociology and Socialism! I have never confused with these two terms! I already knew the difference. I have no idea where you get this from.
I don't have to be diplomatic. I am an audience. There are people who are not politicians, ordinary voters here. I am in IT field, for example. Not a politician professionally. We need to be 'educated', 'enlighten'. UDP-UK is an organization that claims to be political party affiliation in UK and we have executive members who are big shots, elite. That is an opportunity for them to educate us -ordinary people. So far, I have seen some arrogant people who have no clue about the politics and public relationships but they claim to be executive member of political party. In politics, you got to have patience and take anything from the audience. That how it works in politics! You are serving or you claim to serve people. If these people don't know how it works, it is my duty to expose them. I know it is not fair, but I, (the audience) have the power. I am the decision maker whether they are good enough or not. If they ain't good enough, too bad for them. Especially, now I am fasting, I have no tolerance. :-)
It is like employee-employer relationship. I am hiring them, they need to be first nice to me, and then, they need to be qualified. So far, there is a total failure.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 23 Aug 2010 12:40:11 |
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