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Santanfara
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 Posted - 17 Aug 2010 : 13:08:56
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Originally posted by kobo
TO SET THE RECORDS STRAIGHT I HEREBY DECLARE THAT TO THE BEST OF OUR KNOWLEDGE U.D.P NEVER CLAIMED OR DEMANDED A PARTY LEAD COALITION WHEN N.A.D.D WAS BEING ESTABLISHED OR CONSTITUTED! ANYONE WHO DOUBT THIS DECLARATION CAN SHOW US THE PROOF
DEFINITELY N.A.D.D QUALIFIED AS A PROPERLY CONSTITUTED COALITION!
THIS APPEARS TO BE A VERY GOOD COMMENT TO ILLUSTRATE CERTAIN POINTS BY Yankuba Jabang, Editor & Publisher of Senegambia news.com; "To me, and I suppose to many other ordinary Gambians, a 'coalition' of opposition political parties formed under the acronym, NADD, was to contest the 2006 elections in the Gambia. It's no surprise the need was borne out of our collective desire and the 'resolve' of our political leaders in the opposition camp, to rid the Gambia of Yahya Jammeh, the most brutal leader in Africa today."
DICTIONARY MEANINGS FOR COALITION:-
1. An alliance or union between groups, factions, or parties, esp for some temporary and specific reason; for example a coalition government"
2. "The coalition government is a fusion or merging into one body or mass for common good"
3. "An alliance of political groups formed to oppose a common foe or pursue a common goal."
4. Note: " In countries with many political parties, none of which can get a majority of the citizens' votes, the only way an effective government can be formed is by a coalition of parties. Such coalitions are often unstable."
5. Alliance is a synomym with coalition and inter-changeable!
I wonder ,why you have to be using bold in your confused arguments. This shows how brainwash you have become. write like everybody else.
Why didn't Suwaibou/Halifa challenge the issues we raised? They know they were pullinng a fast one. They have come to realise that, their band of indoctrinated larkes will always swallow the patch works they put together. To this end, they make loud statements and over elaborate press arguments knowing full well that, hardly anybody will read it. That reputation is no more. i careless whatever the politicians con journalist write about, so long as they avoided misinforming on the udp. they can proclaimed themselves, the savours of planet Mass. They can take ownership of history and destiny and every brilliant soundbiting English phrase. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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kayjatta
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Posted - 17 Aug 2010 : 13:08:59
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| But if you do not show the respect and the discipline to listen to your opponent, how can you be sure that you are making the right argument based on the facts, Santanfara? |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 17 Aug 2010 : 13:31:05
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Originally posted by kayjatta
But if you do not show the respect and the discipline to listen to your opponent, how can you be sure that you are making the right argument based on the facts, Santanfara?
I am sure you can do with a bit of that advise yourself Kay. You see, I am not in the business to bow down to anybody's fabrications. Should the elders in PDOIS think that, they cannot respect their opponents just like those people respect them, why should you expect me to accord them such?
They are the one's wasting debating time on NADD. Haven't they realise that, the subject is pass it usefulness, why then should Halifa be lecturing over this issue?
Jammeh is sitting pretty and all he can think of is what never was. Since he couldn't pull the deception game, and now he wants to clean himself of all wrong doing. Not so fast dear Kay.
You have wrote nonsence about Ousainou here in the past. Did I caution you over manners?
Tell the bereau chiefs that, what matters now is fighting the 2011 battle. and not through the spider's web tricks of agenda 2090, through proper party politics.
The UDP understands the constraints the opposition parties are operating under. This is why, the party avoids criticising any single Gambian opposition. Ousainou is always on record praising his rivals. If PDOIS cannot do that. hell, i know they don't see any Gambain as good as they are, but let them leave us alone and focus of the killer president.
Suwaibou can call on BanKi Moon or Nelson Mandela to say, yes PDOIS is innocent, we careless since all that will be doing is wasting precious time.
By the way, Our former British Prime Minister Tony Blair is available for such task. He is an execllent Barrister and a top notch politician. Let Suwaibou contact him. We will accept Blair's advocacy. UDP Secretariat have no business in this issue. I wonder whether Suwaibou is alert over that. An Independent Legal Adviser... Yeah, Fafa Mbye, Bory Touray, and many more. We are base in London, should they wish to come and discuss, let them give us a date and time. Good bye. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 17 Aug 2010 : 13:38:05
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Originally posted by Santanfara
I wonder ,why you have to be using bold in your confused arguments. This shows how brainwash you have become. write like everybody else.
Why didn't Suwaibou/Halifa challenge the issues we raised? They know they were pullinng a fast one. They have come to realise that, their band of indoctrinated larkes will always swallow the patch works they put together. To this end, they make loud statements and over elaborate press arguments knowing full well that, hardly anybody will read it. That reputation is no more. i careless whatever the politicians con journalist write about, so long as they avoided misinforming on the udp. they can proclaimed themselves, the savours of planet Mass. They can take ownership of history and destiny and every brilliant soundbiting English phrase.
All your points are not focused on the ISSUES BUT ARE DIRECT PERSONAL ATTACKS AND SMEARING CAMPAIGN
1. Your first point was on my style and THATS MY PERSONAL DECISION! YOUR ARGUMENTS ARE BASELESS AND YOU HAVEN'T PROVIDED WITH THE INFORMATIONAM FINDING OUT FROM U.D.P REPEATED AGAIN;
TO SET THE RECORDS STRAIGHT I HEREBY DECLARE THAT TO THE BEST OF OUR KNOWLEDGE U.D.P NEVER CLAIMED OR DEMANDED A PARTY LEAD COALITION WHEN N.A.D.D WAS BEING ESTABLISHED OR CONSTITUTED!
ANYONE WHO DOUBT THIS DECLARATION CAN SHOW US THE PROOF
2. ITS THE OTHER WAY AROUND FOR THIS IS NOT A CHALLENGE FOR SWAIBOU/HALIFA! IT IS A CHALLENGE FOR LAWYER DARBOE PARTY LEADER OF U.DP AND CORE U.D.P EXECUTIVE TO ADDRESSED ISSUES WITH P.D.O.I.S!
EVERYBODY KNEW AND ARE FOLLOWING THE ISSUES AND FACTS RAISED BY P.D.O.I.S WHICH YOU (U.D.P-UK TRIED HARD TO REJECT! |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 17 Aug 2010 : 13:47:24
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Kobo
You see, when the PDOIS camp lacks anything useful to say, they cry woolf. Responding to slander entails digging out the false tales. ANd if that trigger you to say, I have become personal, welcome bro.
However, Halifa started the discourse, why all of a sudden Suwaiboou emerged with his bullet points communist manual instructions to old boys PDOIS members. It make me sad to see that, the three elders in the bereau still looks at its members like children.For God sake, some of this guys are of equal or similar age to Halifa.
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Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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Momodou
Denmark
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Posted - 17 Aug 2010 : 14:07:53
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Halifa is the main issue for some of these UDP/UK folks. He is their problem and not Yaya.  |
A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone |
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Santanfara
3460 Posts |
Posted - 17 Aug 2010 : 14:15:07
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EVERYBODY KNEW AND ARE FOLLOWING THE ISSUES AND FACTS RAISED BY P.D.O.I.S WHICH YOU (U.D.P-UK TRIED HARD TO REJECT. Kobo
You are still shouting.
You see Mr Kobo, truth is relative, it is not absolute. However, indoctrinations caused folks to be blinded in the face of falsehood. The guys at PDOIS are politicians, true or false?
They have a stake in getting to the helm of Gambians state, true or false?
They have a media outlets which they use to acheive the agenda of programmed, targetted brianwashing. They have been at it for over twenty years.
Now, do you think, this men haven't perfected the craft of emotional blackmail of their members? What has happen to them is that, people have woken-up to their years of long big messages. And now they intend to use other media platforms in selling this controlled message. This is why, Suwaibou went out of his way, in listing instruction to its members. This is a sad strategy.
What we have done is highlight to Gambians that, these guys aren't monks whose preoccopation is sacrificing for a God. They are politicians aiming to assume power. And to that end, they will use nice words, casticate opponents, use whatever it takes except military means to get your vote.
ANd since their vote share in the Gambia is less than all active oppositions parties present in the Gambia, they intend to attack other opposition rivals too in an attempt to sell them their ideas. And what we have told them is that, look if all is equal, the Gambia has a flourishing democracy, with fair playing field, that is politics as usual. But that is not the case in the Gambia, therefore, let the opposition maintian a decorum of mutual respect. But hell, for PDOIS, that is not on.
They see themselves as God-send. They don't value any Gambian. What God has bestowed on them is not comparable to any living or dead Gambian. This is why, they cannot allow themselves to join hands with any party in the Gambia.
They see that as betraying their rason deter.
This is why, PDOIS will alway create an environment, a climate where opposition unity will be far away dream of Gambian across the globe.
Hence, what they will do is try to insert clauses which will fall flat on all sound reasoning. Write elongated documents basing their agreements on that. Yet, when you look at their size, voter share, you see nothing. This is what is causing disunity and anger among wider Gambians.
The end result, PDOIS achieve what they always wanted. Swift the blame on Gambian opposition to the bigger party and they run around trying to provide an expert opinion. This is what happen in NADD and sadly it may happen in all plan talks. They don't want any other way, it is the PDOIS way or no way.
Yet, The Gambia is blessed with intelligent men and women. Who are more than capable of taking the country by the scroft of it neck, stire it towards reconciliation and greatness.
But Lo and Behold, PDOIS executives believe that, there is no true son of the Gambia to match them. They disregard us all.
Yet, when you go through their papers, for God sake, let them stop the hype. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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Edited by - Santanfara on 17 Aug 2010 14:18:40 |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 17 Aug 2010 : 14:18:09
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Originally posted by Momodou
Halifa is the main issue for some of these UDP/UK folks. He is their problem and not Yaya.
Wrong Momodou. The UDP is the problem for PDOIS this is why, they are the ones always writing misinformation about us. However, are we surprise a PDOIS member like Momodou make sich statement? Yeah right. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 17 Aug 2010 : 14:40:29
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Quoted from Satangfara; "This is why, they cannot allow themselves to join hands with any party in the Gambia.
They see that as betraying their rason deter.
This is why, PDOIS will alway create an environment, a climate where opposition unity will be far away dream of Gambian across the globe."
WHAT A PATHETIC SLANDER
SOME OF YOU (SELF-PROCLAIMED U.D.P-UK) WANT TO TAKE US FOR A RIDE AND THINK WE ARE FOOLS AND NOT INTELLIGENT TO KNOW WHAT IS RIGHT OR WHAT IS WRONG
The main arguments inter alia are;
1. Why N.A.D.D collapsed
2. Which party is acountable for N.A.D.D's dis-integration
3. Why N.A.D.D was registered to contest the elections
4. Was the registration constitutional
5. Was registration of N.A.D.D the only reason why U.D.P/N.R.P pull-out or rssigned (if any) from N.A.D.D
6. What were the reasons for U.D.P/N.R.P to pull-out from N.A.D.D or resigned from N.A.D.D
7. Was registration of N.A.D.D that cause failure of N.A.D.D
8. Was N.A.D.D ever considered as a party-led coalition
9. Can anyone provide information to proof that U.D.P ever demanded or agreed with other opposition parties on a party-led coalition
10. Finally understanding certain definations, dictionary meanings, literal and technical terms (if any) on what is; "unity, coalition, alliance and merger"
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Momodou
Denmark
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Posted - 17 Aug 2010 : 15:01:36
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Originally posted by Santanfara
..are we surprise a PDOIS member like Momodou make sich statement? Yeah right.
Thanks for the compliment!
"Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt |
A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 17 Aug 2010 : 16:20:42
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Senegambia news Suntu Accuses Halifa on Double Standards under http://www.senegambianews.com/article/Letters/Letters/Suntu_Accuses_Halifa_of_Double_Standards/19224
THIS IS NOT ABOUT BEATING A DEAD HORSE BUT SETTING THE RECORDS STRAIGHT GAMBIANS ARE NOT FOOLS AND NO ONE CAN FORM GENERAL CONSENSUS FOR THEM ALL THESE RANTS CANNOT SAVE U.D.P
I PERSONALLY DECLARE THAT U.D.P-UK CANNOT DEFEND LAWYER DARBOE/U.DP/N.R.P ON THE BETRAYAL THAT LEAD TO FAILURE OF N.A.D.D OR RECUPERATE THEM FROM DEAD DUE TO THE POLITICAL SUICIDE ALREADY COMMITED!
IS IT THAT U.D.P DOES NOT HAVE A LEADERSHIP OR CORE EXECUTIVE TO ADDRESS ISSSUES RAISED BY P.D.O.I.S |
Edited by - kobo on 17 Aug 2010 16:23:32 |
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Santanfara
3460 Posts |
Posted - 17 Aug 2010 : 21:22:04
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Well, it seems Momodou, going by the quote, there is no great mind within PDOIS any more, since all they have doing is discuss people. We at the UDP pay attention to the regime causing havoc in our country. what do they do, focus on analysing their rivals with their bias looking glass. No amount of quote or big headeness will change our standpoint to expose their errors. Yet, if their false narratives make you proud, belonging to the UDP makes be elated and even more contended, because, i shall never take anybody's remark or statement at face value. PDOIS was not the only party that cronicles events dealing with NADD, even Momodou Siddibe did well with his analysis, why then shouldn't this episoud disappeared to the dustbin?
We will take them on with anything they throw at the UDP, and should older brothers like you give a blind eye. Well and good.
Every honest and sincere observer will notice, it is PDOIS who can't go on without twisting events about the UDP, now who is small minded then? |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
www.suntoumana.blogspot.com |
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Santanfara
3460 Posts |
Posted - 17 Aug 2010 : 21:29:10
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KOBO
SINCE YOU ONLY UNDERSTAND SHOUTING, I WILL ADJUST TO YOUR LEVEL.
"IS IT THAT U.D.P DOES NOT HAVE A LEADERSHIP OR CORE EXECUTIVE TO ADDRESS ISSSUES RAISED BY P.D.O.I.S"
kOBO
the UDP don't want to dirty their hands with 3%, 25 year political light weights. Hence, even you should understand that, Suwaibou didn't meant a word when he said, they wish to focus on Jammeh. They can't do without trying to talk about the UDP, hence we will rather take them on and leave our executive to concentrate on the big cat. We will deal with 3% executive members. Did that answer your question. I have said it over and over, Halifa's aim is to argue endlessly over irrelevant stuffs.
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Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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toubab1020
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Posted - 17 Aug 2010 : 22:31:47
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"Halifa's aim is to argue endlessly over irrelevant stuffs." There appears to be a lot of that in discussions on this topic, whatever turns you on I suppose  |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 18 Aug 2010 : 01:24:05
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Originally posted by Santanfara
KOBO
SINCE YOU ONLY UNDERSTAND SHOUTING, I WILL ADJUST TO YOUR LEVEL.
"IS IT THAT U.D.P DOES NOT HAVE A LEADERSHIP OR CORE EXECUTIVE TO ADDRESS ISSSUES RAISED BY P.D.O.I.S"
kOBO
the UDP don't want to dirty their hands with 3%, 25 year political light weights. Hence, even you should understand that, Suwaibou didn't meant a word when he said, they wish to focus on Jammeh. They can't do without trying to talk about the UDP, hence we will rather take them on and leave our executive to concentrate on the big cat. We will deal with 3% executive members. Did that answer your question. I have said it over and over, Halifa's aim is to argue endlessly over irrelevant stuffs.
I don't think so! Lawyer Darboe & core U.D.P executives already resigned to loose cannon U.D.P-UK to take control and make any irresponsible statements to the public.
P.D.O.I.S & Halifa's aim is promoting a strategic agenda for coming 2011 elections for the common good of all Gambians. On the other hand U.D.P is agendaless for coming 2011
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Edited by - kobo on 18 Aug 2010 01:30:52 |
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