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toubab1020



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Posted - 10 Jul 2010 :  23:10:29  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
"sounds somber" maybe this would relieve the tension and cheer things up
And MOE,This could be one of your precious moments



"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Sister Omega



United Kingdom
2085 Posts

Posted - 11 Jul 2010 :  02:31:05  Show Profile  Visit Sister Omega's Homepage Send Sister Omega a Private Message
Terangba the Human Rights Centre was set up in Gambia in 1995. http://www.acdhrs.org/content/index.php As for Gay rights how many Gay Gambians have taken up Asylum in the west on these grounds. Ironically this issues seems to be one of the loop holes in the UK Immigration rules, and the new Liberal Conservative Coalition in the UK is moving close on tightening it up as it places a quota on Non EU residents coming into Britain a Judge recently told two Gay Asylum Seekers that they should return home and act more discretly.

So Terangba how do you think that homosexuality in a prodominantly Muslim society should be handled? Do you think that Africa should adopt the same policies that the west has or be free to choose what it thinks is best for its society?

Peace

Sister Omega

Peace
Sister Omega

Edited by - Sister Omega on 11 Jul 2010 02:32:36
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 11 Jul 2010 :  03:33:59  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
Sista

I condemn the president of Gambia, Jammeh for his remarks threatening to kill gays. It is not defensible. Do not even try Sista!!! Being a muslim country irrelevant. You can be tough on homosexuals/homosexuality, but threaten to kill is too extreme. So to answer your question, if the society is dominantly Muslim, you don't have to give them homosexual rights. But one can't threat homosexuality as a crime and punish with the most extreme. That is outrages. And Africa do not have to adopt the liberal policies of west, but they don't have to adopt barbaric polices either.

P.S. I do believe that homosexuality is abnormal and learnt behavior.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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Sister Omega



United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 Jul 2010 :  04:05:37  Show Profile  Visit Sister Omega's Homepage Send Sister Omega a Private Message
Turk calm down and address this issue rationally. Homosexuality in the majority of the world is not socially tolerated. That's why homosexuals are discriminated against. Now that doesn't justify the reasons for killing them or treating them differently under the law. Not a lot is understood about homosexuality for example are people born homosexual or are they made homosexual? In many societies homosexuality is taboo it isn't spoken about period and it's not apart of their popular or historic culture. In other societies its in every soap opera on the television as a form of social engineering. It's a part of sex education in schools etc. That's how some society's deal with it. Other societies accept different sexualities within their culture therefore homosexuality isn't a big deal. As Homosexuality is an immotive issue set up to derail the discourse, which is like navigating one's way through a mined field.

I personally feel that someone's sexuality is their own business and shouldn't be pushed upon someone else of a different persuasion.

Therefore I don't agree with the death penalty on the grounds of sexuality, neither do I agree with the death penalty on the grounds of adultery either.

Peace

Sister Omega


Peace
Sister Omega

Edited by - Sister Omega on 11 Jul 2010 04:08:25
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turk



USA
3356 Posts

Posted - 11 Jul 2010 :  05:56:57  Show Profile  Visit turk's Homepage Send turk a Private Message
I was calm sista. I think I was rational. I just had to point that out, the president of the Gambia was wrong when he made the threat of killing of homosexuals. I don't tolerate homosexuality either. It is not acceptable for me and my values. I agree with your conclusions. That means you and I do not agree with Jammeh's threat on homosexuals.

diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.

Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices.
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kayjatta



2978 Posts

Posted - 12 Jul 2010 :  08:28:51  Show Profile Send kayjatta a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Sister Omega

Terangba the Human Rights Centre was set up in Gambia in 1995. http://www.acdhrs.org/content/index.php As for Gay rights how many Gay Gambians have taken up Asylum in the west on these grounds. Ironically this issues seems to be one of the loop holes in the UK Immigration rules, and the new Liberal Conservative Coalition in the UK is moving close on tightening it up as it places a quota on Non EU residents coming into Britain a Judge recently told two Gay Asylum Seekers that they should return home and act more discretly.

So Terangba how do you think that homosexuality in a prodominantly Muslim society should be handled? Do you think that Africa should adopt the same policies that the west has or be free to choose what it thinks is best for its society?

Peace

Sister Omega



The Human Rights Center, if I recall, has been in the Gambia before AFPRC/APRC's coming into power in 1994. It was setup during and in recognition of Sir Dawda Jawara and the PPP's rule, a period of three decades that has been widely described a model for democracy and rule of law. I think you need to check your facts Sister Omega.
There has been a time not long ago during the APRC rule that it has been considered for the the 'Center' to relocate out of the Gambia because of the persistent human rights crisis in the Gambia...
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Momodou



Denmark
11738 Posts

Posted - 12 Jul 2010 :  09:40:26  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message
"The Centre was established in 1989 in The Gambia, by an Act of Parliament. In 1995, the Centre became an autonomous and independent Pan-African NGO."

A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone
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kayjatta



2978 Posts

Posted - 12 Jul 2010 :  10:11:15  Show Profile Send kayjatta a Private Message
Thanks once again Momodou!
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dbaldeh

USA
934 Posts

Posted - 12 Jul 2010 :  10:28:14  Show Profile  Visit dbaldeh's Homepage Send dbaldeh a Private Message
Bla bla and blaa... it is all do as I say and not as I do... what happens to accountability of the tallest order from then Lt Jammeh... I guess everyone else must be accountable except the KING...

A sound government retreat with clear intention to review the progress and set backs should have been set in a neutral ground not a hamlet turned kingdom.....

Word matters only if one knows what ones words are... the president is clueless on how to govern. He still has the degree

Let's see how he acts....

Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
Visit http://www.gainako.com for your daily news and politics
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Kitabul Arerr



Gambia
645 Posts

Posted - 12 Jul 2010 :  16:09:36  Show Profile Send Kitabul Arerr a Private Message
Maybe dancing to the tune of HE's Voice, could cheer things up, toubab1020............................................................................lol!



quote:
Originally posted by toubab1020

"sounds somber" maybe this would relieve the tension and cheer things up
And MOE,This could be one of your precious moments






The New Gambia - Stronger Together!
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toubab1020



12312 Posts

Posted - 12 Jul 2010 :  17:14:23  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
"You may think that I could not possibly comment"(see my signature ) my link does have music that you could dance to


"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Edited by - toubab1020 on 12 Jul 2010 17:19:22
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