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Moe
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 Posted - 29 May 2010 : 22:58:57
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No one In The Gambia, in my opinion played a role in ensuring a vibrant press existed in a country emerging from a Coma more than Deyda Hydara. I hope he was alive today to understand the need for all the so called repressive media laws at the time. I think this would have given him a chance to identify with the problems and dangers associated with a free press, A press out of control with no moral or ethical standards.
Unlike Babylon with an educated and sophisticated citizenry all that is required is a regulatory body which is usually funded by all the newspapers or printed magazines within the region. The rulings of such regulations bodies are adhered to by all parties, as a matter of fact they have no legal powers and are self-regulating. The difference between these two regions mainly has to do with Education, The Gambian journalist was the man who could not find a decent job, usually partially educated or straight out of high school with no journalistic background. A pen and a piece of paper made them feel like important people at the time.
With all the training as of recent a self regulating media is not out of mind or out of sight. What Deyda failed to understand was that with any developing nation with a high illiteracy rate and the lack of maturity even with the regulatory bodies such as the GPU and it's sister affiliates no wadays tends to lead to Laws being implemented to control the media. Pa Nderry has no money , Dalton has Zilch and the rest of these fools running around tarnishing the image of citizens and calling it freedom of speech have NADA what can you get from these fools except 2 cows and 3 chickens from their individual villages.
In Babylon, The media commissions deal with regulating and handling complains, provisions are made to sue media houses for slander, defamatory statements, or whatever is applicable by law.
Unlike Gambia where the so called regulatory body lacks the sophistication. I don't see any difference from the latter since the need of either comes down to holding Journalists responsible. We don't live in a lawless society therefore a complementary Law is needed in Gambia rather than a more complicated , politically motivated and biased regulatory body. The so called repressive media laws are in no way repressive, the only difference is I can go straight to the court house and sue your butt's instead of waiting for a response from an organization that does not even know it's role as an organization(GPU).
In any democratic dispensation freedom and independence are crucial to democracy and good governance, hence the need for an impartial and responsible media.Personally speaking I can understand what Deyda meant by the media laws could be repressive but what he failed to understand was that the government was just as committed to the development of a vibrant media industry to facilitate open and free debate with a mature press, these factors and the fact that he was dealing with a government that even listened to him makes me acknowledge that both parties understood what it means to objectively inform public policy with impartiality and fairness or in certain instance Media laws if the need was assessed.
It's really sad that he never had an opportunity to see how sophisticated the Media has become in Gambia. I am proud of the strides the media has made and their professionalism is evident. When you look around and reflect on what Deyda wanted to see happen, Then you look around at these fools running around plastering his picture on their sites asking who killed Deyda but completely against everything he stood for makes me sick. They have evolved into exactly what the governments stated and the need for a media law.
They made Deyda's vision and goal prove futile yet they can claim am the bad guy .What these fools have evolved into is the kind of media practice that is devoid of factual presentation, Think about everything you have been reading since they emerged, it is all based on relying on blatant lies or hearsay. The least it gets closer to reality is when it announces the death of an individual in America or when it writes about ALD, and 4th of July celebrations or NGENTEHS. The fact is the latter aspect may even be corrupted, if the spinners like Pa Nderry decides that they will associate the event or the Ngenteh owner with a political party .This is for sure a media on the downfall the very nature of their writing quenches no appetite for news among readers, but creates confusion and scepticism.
The whole goal I know is to try and brainwash even renowned academics and organizations such as the media foundation for West Africa and as of recent Human rights organizations. I think even Professor Kari Kari said to hell with these ignorant fools, Thanks to Pa Nderry Mbye.
Whats sad is that you end up seeing all these half baked politically motivated illiterates who end up considering almost everything as gospel truth without seeking to comprehend the subliminal plot underlying the presentation of the news.(No Names)well only Karamba's . There is nothing absolutely called an independent media house, they can masquerade as one yet they still have to rely on sponsorships and recognition as in the case of so called Gambia Online Media, thereby rendering them dependent, Since they are involved with unscrupulous politicians their target became centred on effecting regime change.
The use of words such as tyranny, despotic leaders or pariah state is laden with values aimed at undermining a government that refuses to allow bigotry and tribalism. Deyda will be very disappointed if he was to look back at what he tried to achieve. This is the African problem, his ideas for a free press were hijacked by a delirious and wreck-less terroristic press...........................................................Peace
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I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
Edited by - Moe on 30 May 2010 11:23:27 |
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Janko
Gambia
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Posted - 30 May 2010 : 12:16:01
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Thanks,Moe,
for taking up not only an interesting topic but also one that need urgent attention.
“… This is for sure a media on the downfall the very nature of their writing quenches no appetite for news among readers, but creates confusion and scepticism….
…you end up seeing all these … politically motivated … considering almost everything as gospel truth without seeking to comprehend the subliminal plot underlying the presentation of the news….”
Is it possible that the readership is both skeptical and at the same time “considering almost everything as gospel truth”, or is that the confusion you alluding to?
Let’s be also aware that journalism, news the spreading of information has changed drastically since the IT-revolution. One aspect that is clearly affected by the improvement is how news is acquired and what news is or not. Before the communication revolution (IT) the “proximity principle” is the yardstick by which the quality of news is measured, i.e. the closer an occurrence to a mediahouse the more it qualifies to be news. After the IT- revolution the availability of mobile multimedia and other forms of communication rendered that principle outdated. Now, how do we determine what news is or not?
It seems as if we encountering the classical problem of “objectivity”, that the Said-man is not neutral but always has a point of departure, or a worldview, or a value judgment that falsifies the claim of neutrality, in view of the fact that the observation in question is subjective, personal and prejudiced. Therefore reality is not just one perspective but a constellation of many perspectives which need be equally respected if there is going be any meaningful dialogue aimed at gaining new knowledge.
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toubab1020
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Posted - 30 May 2010 : 13:28:53
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| Some great postings here,sensible and reasoned arguements (sorry discussions)others of a journalistic persuasion (not me!)would do well to read and digest the way in which the two of you have put forward constructive ideas to air the topic under discussion.Great please continue I shall follow postings with interest.Thanks. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Moe
USA
2326 Posts |
Posted - 31 May 2010 : 07:18:41
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Janko, am just grinding, got tired but my boy told me "you ain't tired if you're grinding" so am out running strides now. There are two types of readers ,You and I, vs Santafara" and Karamba"s I just don't know how to better classify these two Infidels. The other day someone stated that my source of news whether I like it or not comes from the online blogs ,That made me laugh, not when I have the option of picking up the phone or logging on to Gambian papers. Kayjatta is going to Zion tell him not to log to the online sites for a week. If he decides to log on afterwards he just might think these people live in goddamn MARS or total NUTTS. Trust me these fools are NOT journalist. What makes one a Journalist? forget investigative journalism, forget sources, what you have is the three blind mice running with their guns beating the bushes hoping something comes flying out. The interesting part is even if something comes flying out look out for what the blind men are gonna be shooting at.Everyone with any kind of common sense knows what rumor mongering is. They say something you ask them a simple question? they run and claim you are rude, thats how you can identify a pathological liar............................................................Peace .
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I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
Edited by - Moe on 31 May 2010 07:33:37 |
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Momodou
Denmark
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Posted - 31 May 2010 : 17:26:32
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What do you expect when the country does not have an institution to train Journalists? I guess many Gambian journalists and reporters have learnt through hands-on training or by correspondences. Hopefully things will improve as time goes on because the Royal Danish Ministry of Foreign Affairs (DANIDA) is currently financing a 2 year education in core journalism skills through volunteer trainers from Games (Gambia Media Support)in collaboration with the GPU. See: http://www.gambiamediasupport.org/index.php?id=856#c1867
By the way I have tried to find out from the www what the difference between a reporter and a journalist is and got the following:
1. Journalism is a process of gatekeeping- a series of gatekeepers (from writers/reporters to editors). Blogging is not journalism because there is only gatekeeper - the blog author.
Reporters are those who go out, find news stories, and report them through writing or broadcasting. A blog author may very well be considered a reporter who is not practicing journalism (series of gatekeepers).
Editors are also journalists but they are not necessarily reporters.
2. The difference is a journalist must be a reporter, but a reporter doesn't have to be a journalist. A journalist seeks truth for the purpose of sharing it with the world/anyone that will listen. To achieve this goal they must report the truth they find for others. However the person that reports lies is still a reporter but they are not a journalist.
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Moe
USA
2326 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jun 2010 : 03:08:29
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I think we lacked every institution possible There was Gambia High Saints, Armitage, Muslim, Crab Island and that was it well apart from the HTC college at Brikama for teachers, the rest did not have much of a choice or future, Government scholarships were targeted for Education and for teachers with a few lawyers agriculturist etc. Journalism was the last thing anyone considered Important. Then the surge just changed the way business was done, prior to that every thing was stagnant I guess. This is the kind of stuff I get in trouble for, I doubt if any of the Journalists will be willing to at least acknowledge facts. I wonder though, if all of them are related to being a reporter?, even the journalist is considered a reporter given the nature of their work at times. I guess it comes down to "who can tell the truth better" or better yet who is more convincing or lies the best. The blogger I guess cares less about being convincing or telling the truth...................................................Peace. quote:
Originally posted by Momodou
What do you expect when the country does not have an institution to train Journalists? I guess many Gambian journalists and reporters have learnt through hands-on training or by correspondences. Hopefully things will improve as time goes on because the Royal Danish Ministry of Foreign Affairs (DANIDA) is currently financing a 2 year education in core journalism skills through volunteer trainers from Games (Gambia Media Support)in collaboration with the GPU. See: http://www.gambiamediasupport.org/index.php?id=856#c1867
By the way I have tried to find out from the www what the difference between a reporter and a journalist is and got the following:
1. Journalism is a process of gatekeeping- a series of gatekeepers (from writers/reporters to editors). Blogging is not journalism because there is only gatekeeper - the blog author.
Reporters are those who go out, find news stories, and report them through writing or broadcasting. A blog author may very well be considered a reporter who is not practicing journalism (series of gatekeepers).
Editors are also journalists but they are not necessarily reporters.
2. The difference is a journalist must be a reporter, but a reporter doesn't have to be a journalist. A journalist seeks truth for the purpose of sharing it with the world/anyone that will listen. To achieve this goal they must report the truth they find for others. However the person that reports lies is still a reporter but they are not a journalist.
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I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
Edited by - Moe on 01 Jun 2010 03:37:33 |
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Moe
USA
2326 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jun 2010 : 03:13:14
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Kukoie said he will for sure over throw the Jammeh regime Hmmmmmmmmm HOW? I doubt if anything is new about that intention. I told ya'll the "Nyamato" never stopped scheming for a plan ,He even believes he has a party with full fledged members. Karamba are you sure that's not your partner in crime?, Thats Lang Tombongs cousin if you never Knew quote:
Originally posted by Karamba
Moe,
If you have brain to reason, read carefully this link from Koukoie:
http://thegambiaecho.com/Homepage/tabid/36/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/1963/Default.aspx
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I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Jun 2010 : 23:12:56
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Hi Guys,
Toubab I agree with your comment as both Moe and Janko's postings flowed harmonously in tune until the simble crashed in with a whole heap of noise! As usual to distract the proceedings if you get my drift.
There's still a vaccuum left by the Heyda Deydra and a niche that needs to be filled within Journalism, and publishing in Gambia. As Moe and Mommadou both rightly pointed out Journalism has been under resource and capacity building is needed, at yet the industry has had to start from somewhere through experiential learning. As Journalism as already mentioned wasn't high on the list of the PPP government's priorities list. This was not really surprising because neither was literacy unless the student came from a relevant afluent background where their family could afford to send them to school.
The University of Gambia should make Journalism available as a pathway and different international journalism insitutions could contribute to the faculty. Thereby giving students a variety of methhodologies of Journalism to choose from not ones just based on western concepts and ideas.
Peace
Sister Omega
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toubab1020
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Posted - 05 Jun 2010 : 00:28:23
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Difficult, given the constraints placed upon journalists in many parts of Africa,what I do agree with is your comment "giving students a variety of methhodologies of Journalism to choose from not ones just based on western concepts and ideas." the world in general has to realise, and accept, that there is a considerable difference between cultures, Indian, Chinese, African,Arab, etc. based on the differing though processes of those cultures,put in simple terms a black man does not think like a white man an Indian does not think like an Arab a, "one size fits all" approach will not work,"horses for courses" is the stratagy to be followed to make journalism work effectivly for the population it serves.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05 Jun 2010 : 21:52:11
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"...horses for courses" is the stratagy to be followed to make journalism work effectivly for the population it serves."
Yep, Toubab, I agree with this statement, and that I think a lot of us are fed up with the tabliod titilation news genres that don't necessarily have to be replicated the world over. It would be interesting to see how Gambian Journalism evolves over time.
Peace
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toubab1020
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Posted - 05 Jun 2010 : 22:20:27
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Well sister thats quite interesting, two of us agree and I dont hear any disgruntled rumblings in the background so perhaps we have really hit on a way to get an established format suitable for The Gambia,who knows, as you say lets see what comes of these ideas,maybe nothing Gambians are so full of good ideas that seem to be getting somewhere ,then like all the Gambian cars break down after a year and the mechanics can rub their hands again, more new cars for us to make a living out of performing maintainence.....er right! I am a bit cynical,but maybe the new way will work effectivly and become established.
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