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Moe

USA
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Posted - 06 May 2010 : 21:11:29
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Thursday, May 06, 2010 Human beings are accustomed to living under laws and norms that are dictated to us by society. However, merely following those societal norms does not necessarily make us good citizens. Being a citizen and being a good citizen are far from being the same thing.
For one to be a good citizen, there are certain expectations that must be fulfilled.
First, one has to be a good person, meaning one must have principles and live according to ethical values such as honesty.
For instance, there are several things a good citizen can do to support the state.
A good citizen must obey the state, by being law-abiding.
This is based on the understanding that good citizenship ensures that people will live in peace and security, which are essential for a nation's development, since no meaningful development can take place in a state of anarchy.
One other way of demonstrating good citizenship is to be helpful to one's compatriots. All around us, there are people who are in dire need of help. Thus, it is an obligation to come to their aid.
Another aspect to the issue is that being a good citizen and exhibiting good citizenship is not the same thing as being the citizen of a country.
In fact, it is not uncommon to see people who are technically not citizens of a country, but who exhibit all the virtues of good citizenship, not found in many holders of a country's passport.
Another important way of demonstrating good citizenship is to play an active part in community development, such as the neighborhood set settal exercise, participating in street maintenance, and so on.
Citizens are entitled to the protection of the law, which guarantees their rights and freedoms in the community.
Yet it must be clearly understood that society has placed limits on those rights, since one?s rights can be enjoyed so long as one does not infringe on the rights and freedoms of others.
As the saying goes, freedoms and rights can never be absolute. The good citizen is, therefore, the person who is able to recognize and live with the fact that his liberty ends where the rights and freedoms of the next citizen begins.
"Fellow citizens, we cannot escape history."
Abraham Lincoln Source : Daily observer
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I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
Edited by - Moe on 06 May 2010 21:13:46 |
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Janko
Gambia
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Posted - 07 May 2010 : 10:48:19
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Moe, What lesson can be drawn from a statement/declaration made for more than 100 years ago? (Abraham Lincoln was assassinated in1865)
“…Human beings are accustomed to living under laws and norms that are dictated to us by society. However, merely following those societal norms does not necessarily make us good citizens. Being a citizen and being a good citizen are far from being the same thing…” The good citizen is, therefore, the person who is able to recognize and live with the fact that his liberty ends where the rights and freedoms of the next citizen begins."
Being a Gambian and being a good Gambian are far from being the same thing. The good Gambian is the person who is able to recognize and live with the fact that her/his gambianess begins when s/he recognizes that gambianess is a national imagination, a national-mindset, a one people one goal point of reference not inherent attributes. Therefore gambianess is by merit not by tribe.
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Moe

USA
2326 Posts |
Posted - 07 May 2010 : 21:17:25
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I totally agree Janko, The culture that is being entrenched in cyberspace is totally unacceptable, I don't care who it is or what they think they are doing, scrutinizing and constructive criticism is one thing ,but trust me if you have no consideration for the next person's father or mother. what makes you think someone will have respect for your's. Am assuming most feel they are immune to it but we shall see.
There is a big difference scrutinizing ,constructive criticism, or what ever anyone's mode of reaching out to people is but at the same time Gambians are protected by the same rights everyone so claims and seem to cherish. We chose the Law as a governing body so it needs to be adhered to and enforced where necessary, no exceptions.
The problem is we have an entrenched tribal identity which since the declaration of independence seems to be haunting us. I do know that the NEW GAMBIA dictates that everything is based on merit, this I can assure you.I particularly like the idea that no favors are owed.
The founding fathers,made serious mistakes and used tribal identity as a unifying factor,Jawara actually was not the founding father of the PPP, he was recruited to be president based on 1)He was educated 2) He was Mandinka, They were the majority and as evident ,it played a major role in determining the leader. What the 1994 coup did was reinvent the wheel and and strictly adhering to the principles of the declaration of independence. We came together as a people to form a sovereign state therefore it is imperative to utilize Merit as the deter-ming factor any thing less is unacceptable. I totally blame the actions of the founding father's since their incompetence and unethical practices led to the down fall of the PPP regime, they knew what it meant to be from a certain tribe and utilized it to the best of their interest Sir Dawda had no choice nut to sit and watch . He accepted the will of the people at the time,it was not about merit ,nepotism played a role and this I can back up. ................................................Peace
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I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
Edited by - Moe on 07 May 2010 21:22:51 |
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Janko
Gambia
1267 Posts |
Posted - 07 May 2010 : 22:28:50
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Thanks, Moe
No need for verification, or proof, or back up, a word for the wise… Allow me to share Samateh Saikou´s (Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 12:41:21 +0100)take on Gambia L regarding some of the true-life consequences of that school of thought:
"...Check around you and see, you have Njies who are mandingos and they will swear by the Koran that they are, take the Sanyang, you have fullas, mandingo, jola etc among them. Tribalism is the work of the devil, a smart devil in our society and they use it for nothing other than there simple opportunistic interest. Let’s go back to the PPP era, if Jawara and his party were a Mandingo party or mandinka tribalism party, they have been ruling that country for more than 30 years, have that brought any benefit to the manding people in the country ? and are they not still among the poor and worst. If jammeh is a jola trabalist,does that in any way bring any meaningful benefit to the jola populace in the country, are they not among the poor and worst in the country. How many Mandingos befinifited more than OJ.Asan Musa camara, Surahata janneh, Ab Njie etc from the jawara regime? How many Jolas have and or are benefiting more than Baba jobe,Njie Saidy,Tamsir Mbow etc from the jammeh regime.What must it take for a sincere intellectual to understand that politician do use tribalism for their own befinit and northing else. …We have been fed with tribalism not to get us better but to divide us. Those who benefit from tribalism, are those who sit together, drink and dine together, do business together, decide how to tax us, decide our salaries etc and then ,they will come down to us to tell us this tribe or that tribe is this and that, is as simple as that. It take only a conscious mind to see this falsehood and do something about it, until then people who have a class interest in diving us ,the masses ...will continue to win over us, divide us and we will die ,as a poor, wretched, battered Mandigo, or a wollof or a jola or a Sarahulleh or a Serrer etc …
I do not mean to deviate from the topic, just a point of observation.
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Edited by - Janko on 07 May 2010 22:33:16 |
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kobo

United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 08 May 2010 : 10:15:48
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Thanks Janko for that powerful article. "MBOKA" Moe is always wrong with sweeping statements about the constitution, political situation & Gambian community relations
We have gone through diversity of opinions but KING Moe tend to RULE BANTABA CYBERSPACE & appear to be very sure of WHATEVER HE SAID AT FACE VALUE NOT TO BE CHALLENGED Moe has attitude of dominance but am of the opinion that; these interactions are to share knowledge, enjoy our leisure but not war of words & cyber terrorism?
Another related Bantaba Gambian politics topic can further enlighten Moe inter alia about intricacies of Gambian families; Senegambian Ethnic Groups: Common Origins and Cultural Affinities Factors and Forces of National Unity, Peace and Stability
AM LOST GENERATION AS MY GRANMOTHER IS MANDING SUNTU DIBBA CHAKU BANTA FARAFENI & GRAND FATHER SEY TUKULORR BUT ONLY SPEAK WOLLOF AS FATHER IS WOLLOF! THEN WHAT IS MY TRIBE 
HOPE AM CONSIDERED GOOD CITIZEN (IN YOUR OWN TERMS MOE) BUT A POLITICAL MILITANT, FREEDOM FIGHTER & REBEL AGAINST THE SYSTEM FOR THE COMMON GOOD OF THE GAMBIA OUR HOMELAND  |
Edited by - kobo on 08 May 2010 10:37:10 |
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kobo

United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 08 May 2010 : 14:44:52
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quote: Originally posted by Moe
The problem is we have an entrenched tribal identity which since the declaration of independence seems to be haunting us. I do know that the NEW GAMBIA dictates that everything is based on merit, this I can assure you.I particularly like the idea that no favors are owed.
The founding fathers,made serious mistakes and used tribal identity as a unifying factor,Jawara actually was not the founding father of the PPP, he was recruited to be president based on 1)He was educated 2) He was Mandinka, They were the majority and as evident ,it played a major role in determining the leader. What the 1994 coup did was reinvent the wheel and and strictly adhering to the principles of the declaration of independence. We came together as a people to form a sovereign state therefore it is imperative to utilize Merit as the deter-ming factor any thing less is unacceptable. I totally blame the actions of the founding father's since their incompetence and unethical practices led to the down fall of the PPP regime, they knew what it meant to be from a certain tribe and utilized it to the best of their interest Sir Dawda had no choice nut to sit and watch . He accepted the will of the people at the time,it was not about merit ,nepotism played a role and this I can back up. ................................................Peace
Does this summary help
Late Reverend J.C. Faye- Christian Party = Politics of Religion Late Garba Jahumpa - Muslim Congress = Politics of Religion Late P.S.Njie = United Party (mainly resonnates with Banjulians/ wollof Jatta Njie Gainde!) Sir Dawda Kairaba Jawara = 1st off-shoot = Peoples Protectorate Party (Rural mobilisation); 2nd off-shoot = Peoples Progressive Party with Banjul Mafia (Urban/Banjulians settlement domination with patronage of certain authorities/Directors but not tribal); 3rd off-shoot = Peoples Progressive Party with "teri Kafo" patronage of Bakary Bunja Darboe & co.) U.D.P & N.R.P = Inherits P.P.P. legacy & dominance based on demographics of the country to mobilsed from the popular base = Tribal = Mainly Mandinka or Fulla for restoration of order & last but not least Gambia under Jammeh & A.P.R.C = In addition to opportunism there is some element of nepotism & patronising on tribal grounds on Jola for e.g Former Inspector General Jesus, Director General Of G.R.T.S, Former Major Lang Tombong amongst a long lists; are also qustionable Moe
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Moe

USA
2326 Posts |
Posted - 08 May 2010 : 21:37:06
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If the Gambian constitution is what you are worried about,I think I can rewrite that constitution and close all the loop holes all by my lonesome and am no lawyer. With the given situation I have a better understanding why the Constitution was written the way it was. Needs a few amendments eventually might wanna say but thats after all the uneducated and law breaking fools have been enlightened. At this point as Turk emphasized on his earlier postings, Educating the masses whom barely know the laws governing them is the priority. Most of the institutions in Gambia need to be strengthen my friends . I dont' have to explain how the police ,Justice department and other institutions lack basic skills .
Please don't tell me it was all perfect 20-30 years ago either, It's even funnier when they expect the Police to act like CSI agents and FBI agents when certain situations arise. We can focus on technology and resources all day so I will just hint it ,they lack it all King KOBO, You people are going nuts if you ask me, or might I say just lack of solid reasons to implicate the APRC regime for not being accountable . Whatever Mboka Moe tells you ,trust me you can write a little bible for your own personal reference. I think you are a very naughty citizen, I would seize your passport for a little over 6 months , It's not a right ,it's a priviledge most don't deserve, .................................................................Peace quote: Originally posted by kobo
Thanks Janko for that powerful article. "MBOKA" Moe is always wrong with sweeping statements about the constitution, political situation & Gambian community relations
We have gone through diversity of opinions but KING Moe tend to RULE BANTABA CYBERSPACE & appear to be very sure of WHATEVER HE SAID AT FACE VALUE NOT TO BE CHALLENGED Moe has attitude of dominance but am of the opinion that; these interactions are to share knowledge, enjoy our leisure but not war of words & cyber terrorism? ...........
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I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction
The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know ..... |
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