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molly75
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 27 Jan 2010 : 16:01:51
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My Gambian boyfriend has miraculously been given a tourist visa to visit me in the UK. We stated on the application that he would visit for 4 weeks and i would travel back with him. Unfortunately i am unable to travel back in 4 weeks, so we plan to travel back to Gambia together in 7 weeks instead. Does anybody know if this permitted or does he have to be back in Gambia within 4 weeks. He has been given a 6 month visa with multiply entries. But we don't want to be in breach of the conditions and risk any future visa applications if he doesnt go back in the 4 weeks we originally stated.
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toubab1020
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Posted - 27 Jan 2010 : 16:24:01
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The only way to be absoloutly certain is to contact the place where it was issued,or if you don't want to do that the citizens advice people can certainly help,as with all these things it depends on the small print, nothing is easy where Government is concerned.But as you write " we don't want to be in breach of the conditions and risk any future visa applications if he doesnt go back in the 4 weeks we originally stated"otherwise he won"t be allowed back if he breaches this visa.( I think that you like him a lot )
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Originally posted by molly75
My Gambian boyfriend has miraculously been given a tourist visa to visit me in the UK. We stated on the application that he would visit for 4 weeks and i would travel back with him. Unfortunately i am unable to travel back in 4 weeks, so we plan to travel back to Gambia together in 7 weeks instead. Does anybody know if this permitted or does he have to be back in Gambia within 4 weeks. He has been given a 6 month visa with multiply entries. But we don't want to be in breach of the conditions and risk any future visa applications if he doesnt go back in the 4 weeks we originally stated.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Lily
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Jan 2010 : 18:31:28
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Hi Molly - that's good news. As far as I understand the rules and regulatons he could stay for the full 6 months. However it's a good idea not to. I am failry certain that you will be fine. The Immigration here are less worried when people leave and the details on the application form are not likley to be given to the guys of the desks. After seven weeks he will be well within the terms of his visa.
I hope you both have a good time and he's not too cold! |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Jan 2010 : 21:59:47
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| Hope you have a great time. He is very lucky to get the visa, what is your secret?! |
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kayjatta
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Posted - 27 Jan 2010 : 22:30:23
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He can stay for the full 6 months duration of his visa. He must not overstay his visa, however; if he does he may never be issued one again.
Please note: This is not a legal advice. Kayjatta is not an attorney and has no legal qualifications. |
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monday
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Posted - 28 Jan 2010 : 03:35:23
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Originally posted by molly75
My Gambian boyfriend has miraculously been given a tourist visa to visit me in the UK. We stated on the application that he would visit for 4 weeks and i would travel back with him. Unfortunately i am unable to travel back in 4 weeks, so we plan to travel back to Gambia together in 7 weeks instead. Does anybody know if this permitted or does he have to be back in Gambia within 4 weeks. He has been given a 6 month visa with multiply entries. But we don't want to be in breach of the conditions and risk any future visa applications if he doesnt go back in the 4 weeks we originally stated.
Seek advice from the UK home office and if possible let it be a written one. If you are not sure at all or can't get any UK home office advice, let him just go back and you join him after 3 weeks. Don't push your luck. The officials WILL easily sense if he is planning for a longer stay. In that case, they will tell you he can stay but what they will NOT tell you is, he will be "classified" and you know the price for that: HE MAY NEVER BE ISSUED A UK VISA AGAIN even if you guys are married. Marrying a UK citizen does not necessarily qurantee you a stay in UK; get that clear. Don't let 3 weeks ruin your future. Anyway, the ball is in your court. |
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Lily
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 Jan 2010 : 09:29:00
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Monday - are you sure about that? Have had many friends say they are only coming for 2 or 3 weeks but get a 6 month visa and stay longer. It's the length of the visa you musn't break so I believe there'll be no problem for Molly's boyfriend. Immigration obviously trust him - hence the visa.
Molly - if you are nervous I would ring asnd check what the terms of the visa mean - rather than ringing and asking about a specific case (your boyfriend). I wouldn't draw personal attention to him. He has his visa. Fab. |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 Jan 2010 : 10:17:24
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| Molly, its the 6months that musnt be exceeded. He can travel to and fro within the 6 months. That much i know. |
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monday
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Posted - 28 Jan 2010 : 14:33:18
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Originally posted by Lily
Monday - are you sure about that? Have had many friends say they are only coming for 2 or 3 weeks but get a 6 month visa and stay longer. It's the length of the visa you musn't break so I believe there'll be no problem for Molly's boyfriend. Immigration obviously trust him - hence the visa.
Molly - if you are nervous I would ring asnd check what the terms of the visa mean - rather than ringing and asking about a specific case (your boyfriend). I wouldn't draw personal attention to him. He has his visa. Fab.
Lily, the visa is a multiple entry,fine but there are many petty regulations sourrounding visa issues that do not easily come to light until you find yourself in an otherwise situation. My advice to Molly is: DO NOT PUSH YOUR LUCK. |
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sab
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 Jan 2010 : 15:43:26
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Your friend can visit YOU & return The Gambia as & when he wishes on the multi six month entry visa.
Should he be questioned at the UK border and makes a variation to the reason of the visit(s) then he can be refused.
New rules came into effect last year regarding overstayers - once deported they cannot apply for a UK visa for TEN YEARS.
(a little info for anyone interested below)
...a practical question about how we will treat migrants who are served with Removal decisions (Form IS151) at airports when leaving the UK of their own accord. [...] Provided these people leave voluntarily at their own expense, they will only have future applications refused for one year. It is only those who are actually removed or deported by the Border and Immigration Agency who will be subject to the ten-year provisions.
Molly, if u still feeling uneasy try;
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visitingtheuk/rightsandresponsibilities/changeofconditions/
Enjoy..
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The world would be a poorer place if it was peopled by children whose parents risked nothing in the cause of social justice, for fear of personal loss. (Joe Slovo - African revolutionary) |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 28 Jan 2010 : 16:24:09
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Impressive source of information or What !  SAB your sources are excellent,Job done
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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sab
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Posted - 28 Jan 2010 : 17:32:34
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Monday, re your 'classified' status - can you elaborate, or do u have info that would make members wiser? |
The world would be a poorer place if it was peopled by children whose parents risked nothing in the cause of social justice, for fear of personal loss. (Joe Slovo - African revolutionary) |
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Lily
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 Jan 2010 : 18:25:47
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| Thanks sab - that's what I thought but you have confirmed it. |
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molly75
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 Jan 2010 : 18:25:52
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| Thanks for all your wonderful advice. We definately won't push our luck, he is EXTREMEMELY lucky to have got a visa in the first place. as you say the embassy obviously trusted him and we want to keep it that way. I never in my wildest dreams thought he would get a tourist visa so to have him come for even 4 weeks is wonderful. Gambia Bev i have no idea what the secret is, he wasn't even called to interview they just rang to say come pick up your visa!! I still can't believe he will be here in Monday, inshallah!! : )) |
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monday
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Posted - 28 Jan 2010 : 19:02:55
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Originally posted by molly75
Thanks for all your wonderful advice. We definately won't push our luck, he is EXTREMEMELY lucky to have got a visa in the first place. as you say the embassy obviously trusted him and we want to keep it that way. I never in my wildest dreams thought he would get a tourist visa so to have him come for even 4 weeks is wonderful. Gambia Bev i have no idea what the secret is, he wasn't even called to interview they just rang to say come pick up your visa!! I still can't believe he will be here in Monday, inshallah!! : ))
Good, You're getting the message. Don't push your luck.
Sab and Lily have given good points but the trouble is there are so many catches when it comes to issues like visa and that's why I am telling Molly to be wise and not to push her luck. In some occassions, a visa is issued as a bait, so Molly, be wise and be careful. Don't bridge the trust.
Sab: I will talk about classified in due course. That is a whole chapter of its own. Belief me, the issue of visa could be complicated particularly if the Authorities want to refuse you. |
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jambo
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Posted - 05 Feb 2010 : 19:31:28
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i always understood it was the length of the visa, i thought you could go back and forth within the six months. that you did not have to stay away for the 6 months.
it seems that 6 months is the length given for all visa for visits. 4 weeks or 3 months. |
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