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toubab1020



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Posted - 05 Nov 2009 :  11:01:38  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Could this be the start of an effort by Senegal to slowly try to attach The Gambia as a province of Senegal ?

Or is it just a fun club for those kids at school ?

Or is it a place to learn a foreign language used by some of your neighbours?

What do the initials PASEG stand for, who are they ?, where do they get money to sponsor projects?

Is life complicated or am I just being cynical?


OR WORSE STILL (FOR ME!) IS THIS POLITICS ?


http://thepoint.gm/africa/gambia/article/sfa-holds-french-workshop-for-schools


Snippet:

This is part of a series of activities embarked upon by the Saint Francophile Association (SFA), headed by Adama Talla to get French off the ground in The Gambia.


"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Momodou



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Posted - 05 Nov 2009 :  11:49:30  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message
Toubab, French has been taught in many schools in The Gambia for decades although I was not one of the lucky ones to learn it. I think will only be an advantage for Gambian school children to also learn French as it is one of the languages most spoken in Africa.


A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone
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toubab1020



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Posted - 05 Nov 2009 :  12:28:18  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Yes I have no doubt what you say is completly correct,however the "Snippet" I have selected may point to something else,note the words "to get French off the ground in The Gambia."
Do you know who or what PASEG is?


"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Edited by - toubab1020 on 05 Nov 2009 12:33:46
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Momodou



Denmark
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Posted - 05 Nov 2009 :  14:39:11  Show Profile Send Momodou a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by toubab1020
Do you know who or what PASEG is?

No, I have no idea.

It could help if the author of the article had written the meaning in parenthesis instead of the abbreviation assuming that readers know the meaning.

My guess is that it is an educational support programme; perhaps its a kind of NGO.

A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone
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toubab1020



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Posted - 05 Nov 2009 :  15:58:24  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Maybe, anyone know for certain?

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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sab



United Kingdom
912 Posts

Posted - 18 Dec 2009 :  22:42:50  Show Profile Send sab a Private Message
Toubab,

PASEG = Programme of Aid for the Education System of Guinea Bissau

http://unesdoc.unesco.org/images/0013/001336/133647e.pdf
(see list of abbreviations - page 10)

sab

The world would be a poorer place if it was peopled by children whose parents risked nothing in the cause of social justice, for fear of personal loss. (Joe Slovo - African revolutionary)

Edited by - sab on 18 Dec 2009 22:44:15
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toubab1020



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Posted - 19 Dec 2009 :  01:26:11  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
Sab, I honestly did try to digest at least some of the document,but it is of a type that unless you are actually in the circle a lot of the content appears tangled,I am not in the circle,this appears to be a talking shop with many international specialists giving their input.Thank you for finding out what the initials PASEG stand for.

Time for bed now,quite an exhausting read 145 pages (OK I didnt read all 145 )

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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toubab1020



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Posted - 19 Dec 2009 :  01:28:25  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
You were right as usual Momodou when you wrote "My guess is that it is an educational support programme;"

quote:


quote:
Originally posted by toubab1020
Do you know who or what PASEG is?

No, I have no idea.

It could help if the author of the article had written the meaning in parenthesis instead of the abbreviation assuming that readers know the meaning.

My guess is that it is an educational support programme; perhaps its a kind of NGO.



"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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sab



United Kingdom
912 Posts

Posted - 19 Dec 2009 :  13:14:34  Show Profile Send sab a Private Message
You r so brave attempting the read... at a glance I see only $$$$ & politics.

Hope ur weekend read will be more rewarding..I recently visited The Gambia for one month & stayed in the same compound as a person whose work is travelling & buying beads in West Africa

http://www.toubab.com/Contents/contents.html
&
http://www.africantradebeads.com/

I found both sites very interesting & informative.
I wondered during my stay whether it could possible be our bantaba Toubab?

sab.

The world would be a poorer place if it was peopled by children whose parents risked nothing in the cause of social justice, for fear of personal loss. (Joe Slovo - African revolutionary)

Edited by - sab on 19 Dec 2009 13:17:34
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toubab1020



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Posted - 19 Dec 2009 :  14:45:29  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
"at a glance I see only $$$$ & politics" Well I suppose it keeps people in jobs,probably better than working for a living like the rest of us ! .

I am very sorry to disappoint you, but the Toubab in your links is nothing at all to do with me.

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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kayjatta



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Posted - 21 Dec 2009 :  09:13:23  Show Profile Send kayjatta a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by toubab1020

Could this be the start of an effort by Senegal to slowly try to attach The Gambia as a province of Senegal ?

Or is it just a fun club for those kids at school ?

Or is it a place to learn a foreign language used by some of your neighbours?

What do the initials PASEG stand for, who are they ?, where do they get money to sponsor projects?

Is life complicated or am I just being cynical?


OR WORSE STILL (FOR ME!) IS THIS POLITICS ?


http://thepoint.gm/africa/gambia/article/sfa-holds-french-workshop-for-schools


Snippet:

This is part of a series of activities embarked upon by the Saint Francophile Association (SFA), headed by Adama Talla to get French off the ground in The Gambia.





Since the start of the 1980s following the Ill-fated SeneGambian Confederation, French has been taught in most Gambian schools; although the famous 'Fancais school' by the Gambia National Library in Banjul may have been in operation for much earlier than the 1980s. But the attempt to expand French eduactaion in the Gambia probably goes beyond Senegal. France might be the big factor. France is not relenting in its desire to maintain its presence in the region, and also to keep French language alive around the world. I think the current Finance Secretary of the Gambia; Mr. Abdou Kolley and Cherno Jallow, a lecturer at the University of the Gambia and a leader at the Gambia Writers Association, are some of the products of French education in the Gambia. A former principal of the school I worked for also returned a few years ago from France with a doctorate.
Sadly, I studied French myself for a total of five years in the Gambia, but came out with nothing other than to tell you my name and where I come from. Thanks to my beautiful blonde 'White' (oops the Mansasulu effect) French teacher; my French education was doomed from the start....
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MADIBA



United Kingdom
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Posted - 21 Dec 2009 :  11:54:45  Show Profile Send MADIBA a Private Message
Guys i think there was a typo error in the point newspaper. The abbr PASEG should have read PADEF. PADEF is the French Technical Assistance in the Gambia.

madiss
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toubab1020



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Posted - 21 Dec 2009 :  13:45:39  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by MADIBA

Guys i think there was a typo error in the point newspaper. The abbr PASEG should have read PADEF. PADEF is the French Technical Assistance in the Gambia.


That's interesting, if your information is correct,(are you able to say the source MADIBA ?) then I may not have been in error. It would help if newspapers put the full name of the organisation instead of using initials only.

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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