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kobo
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 23 May 2006 : 11:33:31
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| Njucks I warned that disassociate yourselves with these dirty tricks on my mastermind games. Lets progress and ignore those statements as irrelevant as I don't want any emotions to arise on any sensitive petty issues further. I unreservedly apologise on characters mentioned. Thanks. |
Edited by - kobo on 23 May 2006 11:36:07 |
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 23 May 2006 : 11:54:32
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ok
you don't have to apologise i fell for the trick perhaps. no worries. |
Edited by - njucks on 23 May 2006 11:54:49 |
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Dembish
Gambia
284 Posts |
Posted - 23 May 2006 : 21:17:51
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| Sorry Kobo you got it wrong, I am a 100 percent Serere, not even mixed.I spent most of my child time with the jolas and the mandinkas and I am very pleased that I am fluent in both these two + my own Serere language. |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 23 May 2006 : 21:23:33
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| Am sorry about that. I repeat again with regrets that was dirty trick and a dangerous game (Master minds) to play. I apologised earlier on characters mentioned. Game on however! |
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Dembish
Gambia
284 Posts |
Posted - 23 May 2006 : 22:54:41
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| No worries Kobo. |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
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njucks
Gambia
1131 Posts |
Posted - 24 May 2006 : 10:08:58
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kobo
i dont think so. they are just a lobby group showing their support for what they believe in. they could well have been farmers lobbying for pro-farming policies. or they would have visited any other party.
whether they do it individually or collectively is irrelevant. however to do it collectively is to show better organisation. |
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Dembish
Gambia
284 Posts |
Posted - 24 May 2006 : 22:07:30
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| Kobo their move to me is not tribal at all puting into account that there is a political party in the The Gambia headed by a man from their tribe but this does not prevent them from showing there support to jammeh. But here comes a better lesson for some of the Jolas who labelled single Nyassy as an outcast for supporting the oppositions.I lookforward to seeing a similar delegation of the Jolas in opposition to show there support to either Mr Gomez, Halifa or Ousainou Darboe.Then the conclusion will be a very smooth one. |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
1350 Posts |
Posted - 25 May 2006 : 00:30:06
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Hi my fellow members,
Why would you fight over a spilt milk?I think it is only the mandinkas who are accused of tribalism?But all the same I am not tribalist and I shall never be.
Let me tell you a true story that happened while I was in the Gambia....
As I was crossing from Barra to Banjul,I came accross some group of men and women talking to each other near the Barra police station{post].Out of curiosity, I came near to them when I heard one of them saying in fulla.'OOH O SIIKU KANKOO WAA NAA NEDOO' MI ANDAA HOO DUM WA NI DEPITEH SI WANNA MACHUDOO YAYA JAMMEH'.( Meaning: He thinks he is not a human being'. I don't know what is the meaning of member of parliament if not slaves to Yaya Jammeh').As I can speak many Gambian languages,I began to quickly suspected there was something going on with an MP involved.I looked towards the police post and noticed Jane Koli Faye coming out of the police station fuming.I neared myself towards the police post until I entered.One man who had quarreled with the MP was being cautioned by an inspector.....'Look you people must respect the MP as they are working for your welfare'.Next time you are brought here,we will deal with you severely ok?'.As the man came out I followed him and saked what had happened.He claimed his car that was in the front of the row was disallowed to board the ferry because the MP's friends should be in Banjul quickly.As I was talking to him, the inspector came out and said to me ...'Hay you' No respond as hey you is no name.He then came up to me and said my brother( Ndo ke) I was talking to you..what are you telling him(meaning the man?I then replied I was telling him his rights and I said to him the MPs are our servants not our masters and there should be no discrimination over the use of the ferry.He then look at me and said where are you from?I said to him Am from the Gambia.Then he said that was rude so he was going to detain me.I ask for the reason to that and whether he has a warrant to that effect?I don't know what made him change his mind but he then said to me ...you type of people are distroyer of democracy and the rule of law because if you tell this man he should not respect the MP,he will think that was a right and I replied I didn't ask anyone not to respect MPs ,I said MPs are servants of the people and I have no doubt in the Gambian constitution that phrase is no crime and he cannot detain me for that.He left and when my car went inside the ferry,I went with the man, laughing..
Thank you all,
Many more stories across Gambia and Africa will be published.
Mankajang Janyanfara.x |
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Dembish
Gambia
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Posted - 25 May 2006 : 01:04:54
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| Jan its just sad, isn't it.After all jane Koli faye is one of the most useless MP of all times.So what respect does he deserved from Nuimikas whose interest is not his concern but rather his own salary.Here is a man who once went collecting thousands from people promising them inreturn for visa which he never fulfiled.What a scam MP. |
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Dembish
Gambia
284 Posts |
Posted - 25 May 2006 : 10:37:41
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Is Jammeh after Mandinkas and Fulas too?
Students of Gambian politics may have noticed a sea change in the politics of our country over the past twelve years. Politically, two very significant things have happened. First, the Terri Kafo, which was once a powerful socio-political organization of like-minded Mandinkas within and outside the government, has been run down and out of the country. Secondly, the Banjul Mafia, which is mostly a Cape St. Mary's based organization of a circle of powerful (Wollof) friends, is battered and bruised, but still breathing; albeit only faintly. In social and political terms, the ascendancy of Yahya Jammeh and the APRC to power, has created a paradigm shift of significant proportions. Prior to the coup, a process of Mandinkanization was underway under a Terri Kafo agenda, that basically excluded Fulas, Wollofs, Sereres ,Jolas, Manjagos and Serahules from benefiting from the national economy especially as it relates to employment opportunities, and access to other government benefits.
Freedom Newspaper Editor Mathew K Jallow
And by July 1994, the Terri Kafo was having major successes in edging the Wollofs out of senior civil service positions, the same way the Wollofs edged the Akus out in the first decade after independence. On the surface, it all appeared calm and under control, but in reality a bitter struggle for power was being waged in the subterranian halls and chambers of politics. What the Wollofs lost to the Mandinkas in political clout, they were compensating for in the economic sector as more of them were forced to leave the civil service for the business sector. Today, the bitter feuds for the acquisition and control of the machinery of government that characterized the decade of the 70s, are only a faint noise in the deep recesses of our memories. But, what remains is perhaps as significant to the social and political psyche of our country as those bitter, but subdued tribal rivalries that coloured the entire three decades of Jawara's rule. The abdication of Mandinka power to APRC, has given rise to a very sinister development that can only be described as blatant tribalism. Yahya Jammeh is clearly at war with any Mandinka who has any social standing in our country. Since 1994, more Mandinkas have been killed by this government because they are more likely to reject a Jammeh rule by virtue of their majority status in the country. The twisted logic is that an intimidated Mandinka majority will ensure that he Jammeh will stay in power in perpetuity. It is a calculated move rather than an accident, that most of those killed are Mandinkas. Secondly, there is today not a single Mandinka civilian in Jammeh's cabinet despite their undeniable place as the majority tribe. The simple explanation is that Jammeh does not trust the Mandinkas, which is why he is excluding them from the running of our government. If he had enough Jolas to place in every senior position, there would not be a single Mandinka working in his government, yet despite this, a segment of Mandinkas led by Sheriff Dibba are crawling like little lap dogs before this semi-literate so-called president. What a catastrophy.
As for the Banjul Wollofs, their politics is not surprising to us. We have been here before when DCA party under the venerable Garba Jahumpa deserted Pierre Sarr Njie and sold the soul of his party to Dawda Jawara back in the 1960s. Since then, the Wollofs have chosen material interests over honor and integrity. More Wollofs and Banjulians in general ought to have stood up against this monster as Jammeh is committing most of his attrocies in their midst. The fact that most of the cabinet secretaries originate from the Banjul area, does not surprise me. It seems like it is in the nature of Banjulians to choose material wealth over the dignity of man. Deida Hydara was one of them, yet no one has resigned their positions over his brutal assassination.
With regards to the Fulas, the only way I can describe them as is the "compliant cowards." Throughout the Jawara rule, they have taken for granted, and they have taken every beating lying down. The Fulas were mostly rejected and denied civil service jobs, and when the Mandinkas under B. B. Darboe and Saihou Sabally, and the Banjulians under the late Ousainou Njie and Co. were looting and pillaging the Gambia Commercial and Development Bank, the Fulas were nowhere to be seen. In addition, we saw Jawara's tribalist police rounding, arresting and deporting Fulas in violation of ECOWAS charter, and besides, for a long time, the Fulas were the only West African who were paying residence permits in our country. That was not justice, and we hope that all nationals from ECOWAS member states will be treated the same irrespective of their tribe. Today, Jammeh is taking the Fulas for granted the same way Jawara did, because Yahya understand that they will not complain. Well, this might come as news to Jammeh that era is dead. I dare say that I am speaking for most Fulas that we are sick and tired of you and if you want compliant servants, you better go find them where you come from; Casamance. The Fulas will not be taken for granted again by you or by anyone else who will replace you soon. Let Churchill Baldeh serve you dinner or wash your underpants, that is his prerogative. And if you think we are impress by you having Isatou Njie-Saidy as your vice president, think again, because we are un-impressed. It has come to the attention of all Fulas that the Jammeh government was seeking to eliminate Buba M Baldeh. For what? What has Buba done, except to help your politics over all these years, and you want to him by eliminating him? Are you insane Yahya? I have never liked the way Buba baldeh associated himself with you and the gang of thugs you are running the country with. As far as I am concerned, no one serving under you deserves any respect, because they are only enabling your rule by dictatorship.
One lesson Jammeh must learn is that tribalism breeds tribalism. His Jola tribalism only has a short run and it will be history as will be his regime. As Jammeh is determined to share his loot with his Jola tribesmen and others in his orbit, we are also determined that he must get the hell out of our country. Today, we are proud to say that we have more educated class of Mandinkas, Fulas, Wollofs, Jolas, Sereres, Serahulas and Manjagos both at home and in the Diaspora who will not put up let alone tolerate the tribalism of exclusion of the past. We are building bridges of understanding across tribes, and we are determined to fight to get our country on a track that forsters tolerance and understanding among Gambians of every stripe.
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 25 May 2006 : 14:47:37
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Dembish for your information am not impressed with Mathew K. Jallows irrational thinking. This topic is progressing well but this information is crude and baseless. We are not "Freedom" but "Bantaba" and don't need most of their obsolete, stale and biased opinions. We are more well informed than them. Thanks anyway!
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njucks
Gambia
1131 Posts |
Posted - 25 May 2006 : 15:08:06
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well done Kobo. again irresponsible comments from educated people.
if this was England its the kind of text you would read and just say '' Bollocks''!! |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
1350 Posts |
Posted - 25 May 2006 : 17:14:18
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Thank you all who go againat tribalism.
It has no place a our mordern Gambia.God's beautiful Gambia.Why do we need to go from one important topic ,then somebody will drive us to tribalism?Gambian is for all regardless of tribe.Let us all see ourselves as Gambians and forget about this foolish idea of tribalism.Who so ever is tribalist,should try and find your own country with only your tribe where you can have peace.Where on earth did you find only one tribe in a country?Tell me where?Come on my fellow country men we have very important issues to talk about that will improve the lives of our people back than tribalism.
I will not join this forum again if you people still argue about tribalism.
Peace
Mankajang Janyanfara.x |
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Galo Sowe
Sweden
116 Posts |
Posted - 25 May 2006 : 17:34:39
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Originally posted by kobo
Dembish for your information am not impressed with Mathew K. Jallows irrational thinking. This topic is progressing well but this information is crude and baseless. We are not "Freedom" but "Bantaba" and don't need most of their obsolete, stale and biased opinions. We are more well informed than them. Thanks anyway!
Well said kobo. We need progressive thinking here and not this narrow minded and divisive BS. |
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