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kobo
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 21 May 2006 : 11:16:16
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Originally posted by njucks
Mankamang???
what ethnic group is that?? i dont think there is one called Mankamang. perhaps someone should name/list all the tribes/ethnic groups so we are all at the same level.
Mankamang are the ones who infiltrate Gambia from Guinea Bissau. I used to hear the expression and seems more of a dialect spoken by a minority. |
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Galo Sowe
Sweden
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Posted - 21 May 2006 : 22:44:00
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Originally posted by kobo
Mankamang are the ones who infiltrate Gambia from Guinea Bissau. I used to hear the expression and seems more of a dialect spoken by a minority.
Mankamang is not an ethnic group but Mankange is. Kobo, why do you think they infiltrated Gambia from Guinea Bissau?
The Mankange I know are citizens of the Gambia like any other ethnic group. Some of them came to the Gambia as refuges around or more than four decades ago during the liberation struggle by PAIGC in Guinea Bissau. |
"Soldiers are experts at camouflage but that is on the battle field not the political one, were transparency is the watch word" Kaaniba |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2006 : 22:55:51
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| Thanks for clarification and providing more information on Gambian minorities usually oversighted in sharing the national cake equitably. |
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Galo Sowe
Sweden
116 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2006 : 22:59:42
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Originally posted by koboThanks for clarification and providing more information on Gambian minorities usually oversighted in sharing the national cake equitably.
I want o have an answer from you why you think they infiltrated Gambia from Guinea Bissau. That statement smells of tribalism Don't you think so? |
"Soldiers are experts at camouflage but that is on the battle field not the political one, were transparency is the watch word" Kaaniba |
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Dembish
Gambia
284 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2006 : 23:05:53
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| Good to know about the mankange, It just a news to me.Also hard about another tribe called Turrka in the Gambia mainly to be found in the Nuimis, any further enlightment?I only hope and pray the ongoing descrimination will soon be over to create equal opportunity for us all. |
There is no egg without a chicken, and no chicken without egg. |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2006 : 23:22:48
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Originally posted by Galo Sowe
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Originally posted by koboThanks for clarification and providing more information on Gambian minorities usually oversighted in sharing the national cake equitably.
I want o have an answer from you why you think they infiltrated Gambia from Guinea Bissau. That statement smells of tribalism Don't you think so?
Sorry if it sounds or implies that to you. In my opinion if the borders are open and they could be used to infiltrate or in ther words allow others from other countries cross-over to penetrate that country. Hope am clear now? |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 21 May 2006 : 23:28:57
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Originally posted by Dembish
Good to know about the mankange, It just a news to me.Also hard about another tribe called Turrka in the Gambia mainly to be found in the Nuimis, any further enlightment?I only hope and pray the ongoing descrimination will soon be over to create equal opportunity for us all.
Dembish no one tribe or ethnic group owns Gambia, we are just found there by circumstances beyond our control or by God's design as our destiny. History moves with time and now the order and diversities are more complex than many years that past already. Society is not stagnant but transforming over time! |
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Dembish
Gambia
284 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2006 : 00:42:30
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| kobo you re seeing me from a different angle which is far from what I mean,All I am struggling is to ENSURE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY and condeming descrimation (in what ever way it may take, no matter who is offended I careless''')Regardless of what tribe one belongs or when that that tribe comes to gambia . a single tribe cannot owned the Gambia and I did not professed any statement like that either, very true no tribe owns the Gambia this is why my heart bleeds by jammehs acts of tribal descrimation.Mind you I got nothing against the Jola tribe and believe it or not as I am typing this,I am charting to my jola friend in jola language.He is being reading my postings but not offended like I said ealier thats my opinion which I'm entittled to and thats how he sees it. one should not hide the fact for fear that another person will be offended,No WAY as far as I'm concern that is injustice and hypocricy.good night. |
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 22 May 2006 : 08:52:03
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thanks Galo for the clarification. i was interested because Mankamang is actually a name of a person also. but i also think we are making a mistake of identifying closely related peoples into distinct ethnic groups/tribes.
Mankange I think is just closely related to Manjago and not seperate? maybe i got it wrong too?
just like Jahanka is not a tribe but just a version/community of Mandinka (s). this is often a common mistake, just like Mansuanka is also not a seperate tribe from Manjago.
Dembish I'm also interested in Turrka. never heard of it? |
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Galo Sowe
Sweden
116 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2006 : 13:23:23
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You are right Njucks. The Mankange I know are closely related to Manjago like the Jahanka to Mandingo. Thanks for the correction.
Once a Konyagi (migrants from Guinea Bissau) family who converted in our village to Islam were all given the surename of the Imams family. Could this be one of the reasons you find for example a Manjago with a surename Ceesay? |
"Soldiers are experts at camouflage but that is on the battle field not the political one, were transparency is the watch word" Kaaniba |
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 22 May 2006 : 13:41:32
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absolutely, Islam is not native to anyone
but it is common practice to take the surnames of your ' Jatigui' |
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Biraago
Gambia
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Posted - 22 May 2006 : 13:58:38
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Sowe,
You have touched a sensitive question that many don't want to talk about or try to falsify as cover.
In both the Inter-communal and the Islamic Jihad wars, many saw their surnames changed to the names of the person who became their master or the Imam of also became the political leader. Although most tried to retain their cultural origin but still, it is a question mark in our history.
Some migrants to both urban and rural areas also were named after the surname of their hosts. For most of them, it was not to subdue them but to identify who is with which host but thsoe that stayed long in those compounds in the case of the urban areas and those who stayed in a particular village authomatically retained that surname, sometimes together with their original surnames.
Some migrated into areas where a language group happened to be dominant and because of the welcome they recieved and the good system of integration, they are authomatically regarded as members of the social group but the surname is retained by that family.
In terms of social integration, we need to study this phenomenon with an open mind to see what benefits could be drawed from it for a successful nation building.
I hope you people could relfect on this issue with the aim of finding a workable solution to some of our social integration problems. |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2006 : 15:40:54
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Originally posted by Dembish
kobo you re seeing me from a different angle which is far from what I mean,All I am struggling is to ENSURE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY and condeming descrimation (in what ever way it may take, no matter who is offended I careless''')Regardless of what tribe one belongs or when that that tribe comes to gambia . a single tribe cannot owned the Gambia and I did not professed any statement like that either, very true no tribe owns the Gambia this is why my heart bleeds by jammehs acts of tribal descrimation.Mind you I got nothing against the Jola tribe and believe it or not as I am typing this,I am charting to my jola friend in jola language.He is being reading my postings but not offended like I said ealier thats my opinion which I'm entittled to and thats how he sees it. one should not hide the fact for fear that another person will be offended,No WAY as far as I'm concern that is injustice and hypocricy.good night.
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kobo you re seeing me from a different angle which is far from what I mean(in what ever way it may take, no matter who is offended I careless''')."by jammehs acts of tribal descrimation "my opinion which I'm entittled to ..... one should not hide the fact for fear that another person will be offended,No WAY as far as I'm concern that is injustice and hypocricy."
Now I am seeing that your only concern is your allegations on )."by jammehs acts of tribal descrimation ". You are entitled to your opinion but need to substanstiate them to convince others am afraid? We need this topic to cover a whole range of issues on ethnicity and peaceful coexistence, the way forward! thats why am very elaborate on them. Dembish hope am clear now? |
Edited by - kobo on 22 May 2006 15:42:14 |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2006 : 16:31:43
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Originally posted by Biraago
Sowe,
You have touched a sensitive question that many don't want to talk about or try to falsify as cover.
In terms of social integration, we need to study this phenomenon with an open mind to see what benefits could be drawed from it for a successful nation building.
I hope you people could relfect on this issue with the aim of finding a workable solution to some of our social integration problems.
Most of us are yet to appreciate that these basic values or gestures are part of the tenets of rich cultural values and African socialism as manifested for e.g within the sub-regions of Senegal and Gambia; i.e "Jaatigui" an accomodative, welcoming and bonding gesture between hosts and visitors to share resources together equitably and peacefully or likewise "Teranga" promoted a moral obligation to nurture goodwill between two parties across the community, "Laile" where you are initiated on proper certain cultural rites, discipline and cultural education amongst others. No one ethnic group teaches about competetiveness, compettetion and /or hatred against another ethnic group in their institution of iniations which we call "laile" in wollof vernacular. Eventually "Njirou", scramble, conflicts and crises starts through land tenure, materialism, dis-orientaion, politics and power struggle tragedically ensued and becoming more complex nowadays.
Ethnicity and integration is so delicate that the positive aspects should outweigh the negatives to avoid astrocities, chaos and conflicts. Lessons can be drawn from Rwanda, Brundi etc. This highlights by Patrick Cockburn, a reporter who reports an alarming situation in Iraq just couple of days ago to assess how serious the situation could develope into?
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"Across central Iraq, there is an exodus of people fleeing for their lives as sectarian assassins and death squads hunt them down. At ground level, Iraq is disintegrating as ethnic cleansing takes hold on a massive scale. The state of Iraq now resembles Bosnia at the height of the fighting in the 1990s." QUOTE ENDS
Thats on a global scale but the features are typically relevant in the small Gambia we share together irrespective of race, colour or creed. |
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ABRAHAM
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 May 2006 : 18:13:39
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| what turrka, never heard of it before, can somebody help? |
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