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mavaric
Turkmenistan
94 Posts |
 Posted - 30 Apr 2006 : 16:14:54
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Gambianow.com has now launched a new section, Gambia Dating . The Gambia's first online dating section. Goto : www.gambianow.com and click Gambia dating on the menu.
Enjoy.
Gambianow.com - Connecting Gambians
Topic Closed. Tired of peeps asking me about it on msn
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Sister Mariama
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Posted - 30 Apr 2006 : 19:38:43
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I take it mavaric that you are not a muslim.
This is haraam. Forbidden in Islam.
With 97% of Gambia being muslims this type of thing should not be encouraged.
God help the Gambia.
Do you know why toobabs want to live in Gambia? Perhaps because it reminds them of their youth. People are genuinely nice. They are concerned about what they do to each other - far more than material possessions. The technology that is entering the gambia would be far better used for good. Rather than tempting the people further into futile nonsense.
Maveric please I do not wish to offend you in any way as I do not know you.
But do you really think of the consequences of such activities?
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mavaric
Turkmenistan
94 Posts |
Posted - 30 Apr 2006 : 20:01:54
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Sister Mariama, am Gambian & Muslim. I respect your feedback but object it in every way. Stop using the name of Islam to stop the progression of your mind as a human being. I dont know if you know of how many online arab dating sites are out there, from saudi araba online dating to kuwait. People like you just keep making up stuff because you dont like to move forward. Your old fashion pattern of thinking stays with you and when others are trying to move forward, all you see is the invisble barrier of religion in front of you. To put it in simple yet explicit words, stop talking ****. Anytime a Gambian comes up with something new, fellow country men or women have to try and beat him down. |
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LEMON TIME
Afghanistan
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Posted - 30 Apr 2006 : 21:07:22
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| Mavaric you just put the last nail on Sister Mariama Coffin.LAUGH |
There is no god but Allah |
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Sister Mariama
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Posted - 30 Apr 2006 : 22:04:28
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What exactly am I making up?
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twinkly
United Kingdom
190 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2006 : 20:28:20
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Sister Mariama you are absolutely right.
I support your words 100%
It is not about putting you down, Maveric, it is about morals, what is wrong and what is right.You can progress without seducing the youth into having sex and love and thinking about it all the time.This is not a good way forward.Love and Sex should be something serious and precious, juut because we lost all that in the West, doesn't mean we are right in what we do.And if your eyes are open, you wouldn't follow.
The thing I like most about Gambia is that there are still many very decent families.But even that is slowly becoming history, because you HAVE to progress, and the only way you think is to follow our bad habits. |
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mavaric
Turkmenistan
94 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2006 : 21:39:42
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Here we go again. Firstly, who said anything about seduction and sex ? I only mentioned a Gambia Online Dating site launched .Almost every country now has it, including all the arab states that you all seem to immitate.You are in the United Kingdom if am correct and am dissapointed that many Gambians dont use the opportunity of been in the west to open your minds, question and review most of the crap that has been fed into our minds by our disillusioned elders in The Gambia. If its left alone to them, nothing will change. They redicule everything as been a "white mans" thing or start blabling jibberish such as " God has gifted the white people " . As far as I see it, the white men gifted themselves by opening their minds,questioning,pushing boundaries,researching and most importantly, putting the superstitions that we have been hypnotised with on the pile of sh!t list.
Is this really about Morals ? I believe morality is based on a consideration of circumstances-not principles. You claim its about what is wrong and what is right. Who are you to decide that ?I believe this is about change.When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change.The world is changing, the train is moving, you have a choice, you can sit their hypnotised about morality whist the steam rolls from your view or you can jump in the train and move forward. There is nothing you can do about it, either way its going.
Twinkly, the world is changing. Your mind needs to adapt to the current evolution of society. Just like we evolved through decades. Things that were thought to be immoral those days are normal now and are standard things even you do now.It is the consolation of your mind; you have the fun of changing it without impeding the progress of mankind.
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Babylon
Sweden
691 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2006 : 21:58:21
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Originally posted by mavaric
Is this really about Morals ? I believe morality is based on a consideration of circumstances-not principles. You claim its about what is wrong and what is right. Who are you to decide that ?I believe this is about change.When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change.The world is changing, the train is moving, you have a choice, you can sit their hypnotised about morality whist the steam rolls from your view or you can jump in the train and move forward. There is nothing you can do about it, either way its going.
You are absolutely right mavaric, I totally agree. Who´s to decide what´s right or wrong? What works for someone may not work for someone else. Besides, I think people are wise enough to know wether they want to join a dating service or not. Just becuse it exists and it dont mean all will join it, there is a choise. What we really don´t need is someone to dictate what to do and not in a democratic society. |
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LEMON TIME
Afghanistan
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Posted - 01 May 2006 : 22:51:19
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| OH my Dear Gambians dont you think that everyone has the right to do what he/she wants as far as you not harming anyone or breaking the LAW.IF any one wants to join dating services or want to join the Forum please do so on your own free will.Can anyone tell me who is going to hell or heaven? |
There is no god but Allah |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 01 May 2006 : 23:17:42
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In a democratic society there are responsibilities..Democracy is not a blank cheque as is sometimes seen to be. In the United States, a country that claims to be leader in the rule of law, there are limits set as to how we conduct our lives. Infact they still have the dead penalty whilst Europe does not. Sometimes convicts are electricuted in the 21st Century.
Whilst, others have the right to argue with sistermariama, i cannot accept the fact that crap was " fed into our minds by our disillusioned elders in The Gambia". That is stretching the issue too far.
I do not like the basis that because other countries are doing something then we have to do it. We cannot be copy cats. We need to filter what works in our best interest and helps preserve the beleieves and norms of our society without ofcourse hindering progress and advancement of the gambian people.
Certain cultures erode the fabrics of our society and this is not to be seen as being anti change. Secondly, just becasue in the middle east they have similar things does not necessarily qualify it as being correct. Political correctness should be judged in the context of our religious, political and cultural norms. Just because a muslim drinks alcohol does not give every muslim the right to drink. There are good muslims and bad muslims. If a muslim follows the teachings of his religion then he is a good one and if he refuses to do as expected then he is a bad muslim.
Piety is not in the color or race of the person, but in his act. The Prophet Peace Be Upon Him said so in His last sermon. NO ARAB IS BETTER THAN ANOTHER MUSLIM EXCEPT IN PIETY. There are therefore bad muslims in the Arab world. Infact not every arab is a muslim as most people tend to believe.
In Islam there is no compulsion in religion. LAKUM DINI KUM WALLIYA DIN ( HOLY QURAN). It should also be understood that not every human being is a muslim and as such have those liberties to do as they fit. However since this is a dating site, it is not in tune with what we grew up to know. I can certainly under stand the feelings of Twinky and Sister Mariam. Sex is a taboo in our culture and is never spoken of. It will take a while for that to change.
Personally, i visisted the site but quickly logged out beacuse i was not happy with what i saw. Girls posting their pictures in such ways that i felt uncomfortable. i am not sure if i can muster the courage to visist again. Then again it is left your conscience if it works for you. It does not work for me and i am not judging anyone for visiting the site. I am more interested in news and academia than anything else. That is my passion. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 01 May 2006 : 23:51:00
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i think one of the sadest things about how people look at African culture is that its static. this is a romantic view by those who are attracted to it. most often were are compared with the west when ever we do anything different. i personally dont see the difference between a dating service and an arranged marriage? atleast in the former one has a choice .
africa has never been isolated, never in its history. throughout we have had contact with the outside world and they have all left their influences. Islam which conditions our morality is an outside influence. i'm sure when it came initially it was also resisted?
those who 'love' our country and are attracted to it sometimes sound selfish in that they ignore what we think and what we want. it is our wish to be part of the modern world, to think for oursleves.
Another member of the Bantaba once wrote on a different topic '' i dont want to see a McDonalds in Kotu''. i wonder if the people of Kotu want a McDonalds
MAVERIC, ITS A GOOD SITE THAT WILL APPEAL TO MANY GAMBIANS SCATTERED ALL OVER THE WORLD, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY BE A PLACE TO FIND OLD MATES TOO. I HAVE REGISTERED AND I AM A MEMBER. THIS IS MY DEMOCRATIC RIGHT. WELL DONE, KEEP IT UP.
THANK GOD WE ARE A SECULAR STATE.!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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mavaric
Turkmenistan
94 Posts |
Posted - 02 May 2006 : 00:15:56
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kondorong, you must definately be a conservative. Judging by your words, you have yet to smell the coffee. You are the same people shouting in this forum daily about democracy, freedom, the right to choose. However, when an entity of freedom, the right to choose appears, you are the first people to criticise it.You will be one of the last to realised how far behind you have been set back by your conservative attitude towards life.You claim that certain cultures erode the fabrics of society ? I say it only stregthens society it as it allows us to share cultures and that is what is happening today and you have yet to accept that change.If we want to live in a free world, we have to accept that people are different.Make different choices and should not be bound by others idealism. You are not free if you are only free to be like everyone else."Girls posting their pictures in such ways that i felt uncomfortable ". If you simply analyse what you have just said and triangulate that with the current date, time and year,only then will you realise your absense of presense and how your rejection of change has disconnected your updates of life.Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our minds.When a man ceases to choose, he ceases to be a man.
I do not want to link this subject with religion.I believe only the weak ones who cannot fight an argument or make a case hide behind the cloud of religion.People are quick to speak of their morals but slow to live by them. You claim "it is not in tune with what we grew up to know ".Let me rectify you on that. It is not in tune with what you grew up to know. Not the updated members of society who are trying to progress forward but since you need tuning, I can understand why pictures of girls on a website with moderate dress code makes you uncomfortable.
Regards
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 02 May 2006 : 00:57:09
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Wow you are fuming. I am not denying you your right to be part of a dating service. I said it was not for me. Are you then denying me my right to choose. I have not condemn anyone for using the site. Infact the quotaion from the Quran clearly indicates that there is no compulsion in religion.
May be you need to read my posting again. Are not gulity of what you preach. If you have a right to be part of a dating service that is fine by me. But do not judge my distate as being harmful and backward. Certainly that is not something i would expect from a "modern and progresive" thinking person as you claim. LAKUM DINIKUM WALIYA DIN. (QURAN) It translate as Have your religion and i have mine. May be you did not understand the quotaion and therefore thinking that i am judging you. You are your better judge.
I have said that sex is a taboo in our society and therefore it will take time for attitudes to change. Please do not put words in my mouth. I do not have time to argue just for nothing. Please also recognise my right to not like it. To force me to like the site is to fall victim to what dictators are hated for.
Atleast i should have the freedom to choose. Unless you come from another planet and not Gambia, a dating service is not in tune with our culture. Certainly things are changing and culture is dyanmic. That is why i indicated that it will take time for such to be accepted by sister mariama and Twinky.
You seem to be so personal about this that it is clouding your judgement. To call me backward and being left behind is certainly not me. I have travelled the lenght and breadth of Europe, i have travelled to North America and across africa, from west to east to south. I certainly have a very rich life and experience. I think i am educated enough and lived in the west long enough to know what is modern and good and what is harmful to me. It is not all that glitters is gold. I have never denied any one the right to express what they believe in and i challenge you to show me evidence on the Bantaba.
I have always manitained that the essence of debating an issue is to be able to arrive at a conclusion that is mutual and i am ready to change my mind if you are convincing enough. You seem to be preaching to the choir. I think you need to look for converts elsewhere as far as democracy is concerned. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 May 2006 : 05:28:50
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KONDORONG YOU COULDN'T HAVE BEEN MORE EXPLICIT. HATS OFF! WE GOT TO BE OURSELVES NO MATTER WHAT. ISLAM IS NOT ARABIAN. ITS UNIVERSAL! WHO IS SAYING ARABS ARE OWNERS OF THE RELIGION? ONE OF THE REASONS WHY AFRICA IS LAGGING BEHIND IS FORGETTING WHO WE REALLY ARE. DO WE HAVE TO ACCEPT ANYTHING BEING PRACTISED IN THE WEST. MOST OF THESE COUNTRIES ARE TRYING TO DEAL WITH THESE SOCIAL ILLS WHY SHOULD WE TAKE THEM IN. LAST NIGHT ON BBC 24 NEWS A FAMILLY IS DESPARATLY TRYING TO LOCATE A 13YEAR OLD DAUGHTER OF THEIR WHO HAVE GONE TO JOINED A MAN SHE MIGHT HAVE MET IN A CHATROOM. IS THIS KIND OF SOCIETY WE WANT? CHILDREN SMOKING AT THE TENDER AGE OF 8YRS? NO SMOKING IN THE BUS IS CLEARLY WRITTEN IN BUSES HERE IN THE UK, BUT HAVE BEEN AROUND AND I SAW MANY A TIMES YOUTH SMOKING NOT ONLY CIGGIES BUT MARIJUANA AND NO ONE DARES TALK TO THEM? THIS IS TO BE A SOCIAL BREAK DOWN.
SO NO MATTER WHAT PROGRESS WE WANT FOR OUR PEOPLE IT MUST BE THE RIGHT STUFF. |
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twinkly
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 May 2006 : 10:31:34
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Thank you Maveric for your constructive critisism.
".......Twinkly, the world is changing. Your mind needs to adapt to the current evolution of society............"
Maveric, in case you didn't notice, I am white, not a muslim and I was born in Europe by european parents.I know our society.
I grew up being taught what is right and wrong.But the more time passed, the less I saw of the good things I was told about, all you see is greed and (long-term) destruction in our society.
Do you support 14,15year old girls getting pregnant and having babies?Do you support children being rude to their parents, even attacking them, smoking, taking drugs, robbing people..........This is our future generation, I don't even want to think how it will be, thank goodness we won't be here forever!
What a mix up, women having 5 children by 5 different dads(if she even knows who the dads are) believe me, I know my society
I have married into a very decent, well-functioning gambian family, and I have found what I was looking for.
Maybe I have gone backwards in your eyes.
But maybe one day, when you have children in this society, you will feel what influences are good and what will harm your offspring.I'm sure you would want the best for them.
I always say that I wish for our children to be brought up in Gambia with the family, they would miss out on some of our oh so great luxuries, but at least it would make them better people.The big question is...what is better?To give your children materials or to make them suffer and learn discipline and morals?
Please don't feel offended, we are only discussing.I like that you make an effort for your fellow Gambians.And I would certainly not stand in the way of progress for the Gambia, but not at all costs.
Basically, Kondorong has said it all.
Progress doesn't mean you have to follow everything blindly.Our society will not function forever like it is now.We are, very slowly, progressing to regress.Live and let live, I don't mean to offend you, it is a very nice topic to discuss.
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Babylon
Sweden
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Posted - 02 May 2006 : 13:28:56
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Originally posted by njucks
those who 'love' our country and are attracted to it sometimes sound selfish in that they ignore what we think and what we want. it is our wish to be part of the modern world, to think for oursleves.
Another member of the Bantaba once wrote on a different topic '' i dont want to see a McDonalds in Kotu''. i wonder if the people of Kotu want a McDonalds
WORD! 
I think some westerners wish to see Africa undeveloped just because They need a calm and quiet place to run to from all this "madness" here. Sounds to me like an Easy solution, running away from reality and responsabilities. And have you, spoiled, egoistic toubab, ever asked the africans what they really want if they actually had a choise? Who would, by free choise, want a life in poverty and never have the right to do anything by free choise? Can you tell me one person who really enjoys beeing poor and without choises or rights
Maybe they are poor because you, toubab, feel more comfortable with it. |
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