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Karamba
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 08 Aug 2009 : 19:36:07
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Sister Omega,
Thanks for adding more colour to your words though without the benefit of value. |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
2085 Posts |
Posted - 08 Aug 2009 : 21:13:31
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Karamba where is your big mouth tonight? Why aren't you screaming your torrrent of abuse at the President as we have all grown accustomed too? What's the matter has the cat finally bit out your tongue? As I keep on saying Karamba you're just an old stale bag of wind without any substance or integrity. You can only shout obscenities behind a pseudonym comfortably in an armchair.
You have no balls to tell Jammeh to his face what you think but insist on tarnishing the name of Gambia for a little bit of fame to use you're own words Karamba without the benefit of value. Now can you honsetly put your hand on your heart and say you and your cronies haven't frequently broadcasted such allegations against Jammeh as a murderer all over this forum time and time again as well as on others? No wonder in this present climate you are staying put in the west like the coward you are. Of course you won't be visiting gambia any time soon as hotel Mile 2 doesn't appeal to you.
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 08 Aug 2009 : 22:58:26
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Thank you Sister Omega,
Big thanks to you for all the heap of it. In million times, you can never get near what your wild assumptions prompt you on. Karamba is no murderer and no thief.
You seem to confuse the person of Yaya Jammeh and whole state of Gambia. I am not clear how many people share that passion with you.
I know of a country called Gambia. There was also a Yaya fellow who used gun pressure to seize the political power in that country. It is that information being filtered down. Surely, no news item, but certainly valuable old information (stale as you prefer.) Yet we need it to remind everyone about the past.
Not being the person who stole a whole national power house means that Karamba is not relevant for Gambians to discuss about. Quite factual Sister.
More respects to you and your ilk. |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
2085 Posts |
Posted - 09 Aug 2009 : 02:13:09
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You see Karamba when someone constantly points a finger not only do four fingers point back at them but as they are constantly calling out to be center of attention, it's a bit too late for them to try to step out of the limelight. After all aren't you now getting the attention you have been seeking for the past few years. Why is it now you become shy all of a sudden is your conscience pricking you?
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 09 Aug 2009 : 12:40:47
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Sister Omega, you got this one too very wrong!!
Karamba is not seeking attention. No, no, no.
What needs attention is the brutal state of affairs in Gambia. What needs attention is the amount of disgrace and suffering meted out to Gambians since July 1994. What needs attention is the rate by which many people get killed in Gambia with no information from those who need to do something about that. What needs attention is the manner Yaya Jammeh is squandering public resources with no remorse. What needs more attention is the way people like you Sister Omega blindly choose to boost Jammeh's ego and wishing to have Gambians suppressed without a voice.
That is why Karamba is set on this journey. Therefore, Sister Omega, Karamba does not need attention. All the attention better be paid on these listed conditions and lot more.
Do you have conscience at all, Sister Omega?
I have to ask this because of the insensitive posture in your disregard for plight of Gambians under the wicked grips of Jammeh's killer claws. |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
2085 Posts |
Posted - 09 Aug 2009 : 14:18:15
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"Karamba is not seeking attention. No, No,No." An ordinary font will do unless you think we're all partially sighted, then its better to zoom in using the view tab. Now, mind your blood pressure levels!
Well, well, Karamba you're set on your journey to bring to our attention how Jammeh has misappropriate Gambian Public Funds, but when I asked you to at least prove your allegiation you replied and told me it wasn't your job. Confused?
Karamba come on! As you told me yesterday I am supposed to be an individual with "colourful words with little value" how could I have so much power: 1. To boost Jammeh's ego and 2. To suppress the voice of Gambian people. I really think you have missed your vocation as the forum clown.
Again Karamba this finger pointing of yours won't do! You talk about dictatorship but your quite a little Dictator yourself secretly aren't you. Come on admit it, yes you are! It's ok your secret safe with me no one will hear it. Unless of course you increase the font size. What's up Karamba are you secretly waiting in the wings to replace Jammeh or have you edging for a seat in your hypothetical Gambia state. But you see it seems that the Gambia you are pining for has long past even in your 18 short years of life.
It is impossible for someone so young to have such insights, now is that down to the British National Curriculum or down to the West Arican school board? It seems that you haven't yet embarked into the real world as yet, and you're not even legible to vote either as your only 18 years old that is.
No we actively encourage youth to engage in the political process it is alarming that you Karamba really would like to zip up peoples mouths and get your hands on the loot. Joker!
As the saying goes you can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all the people all of the time!
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 09 Aug 2009 : 14:58:26
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Sister Omega,
By million attempts, you can never succeed dragging me in that pool of mud. The issue is about one big bandit Yaya Jammeh. Dear good bouncer, not about Karamba, Ma!
Why you like to divert attention from the beam of light on Jammeh is amazing!!
Let us get on track about issues and leave out people in their private reserves. It is those who plug their head and tail on public resources that deserve being challenged.
You have all the rights to challenge the issues raised by Karamba but Karamba also reserves the rights not to step in that mud of your creation however desparate you stand to manifest.
Grammar, spellings, type character and what you have, that's not an issue at hand.
By choice, I am ready to write in the most incorrect English Grammar. If that's no offence to Queen Elizabeth, it is no shame for me.
Again, the issue at hand is all about one person, Yaya Jammeh. |
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Sister Omega
United Kingdom
2085 Posts |
Posted - 09 Aug 2009 : 17:17:24
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The issue at hand is about the disappearance of Journalist Chief Ebrima Manneh who is a missing person, and if anyone knows where he is. Then they should come forward to notify his family, friends and associates and put them out of their misery.
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 09 Aug 2009 : 20:09:02
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There are people out somewhere, totally capable of destroying not just evidence,but the entire environment such evidence can be traced. That is how cruel some people can be. Unfortunately, very unfortunate at that, the NIA in Gambia are being paid to do just that and worse things. They are bent on soliciting false confessions to tender as evidence about how to settle on grounds of SEDITION.
The BIG issue of Gambia is not about only the isolated case of Chief Ebrima Manneh. There is a stem to all the other problems bearing the mark of Jammeh as resembling the beast in the Book of Revelations Chapter 13 Verse 18 (Rev 13:18) in the New Testament. |
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shaka
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Posted - 09 Aug 2009 : 22:44:06
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Mullah Santa i know your ability to comprehend the English language is below average at best but don't put words into my friggin mouth or attempt to think for me ok!! I am very scary? And i am not even a Boko Haram Taliban!! You would not know the meaning of what 'scrutinising a politician' or 'opportunist affiliation' is, would you? Halifa Sallah can speak for himself and i don't think he needs me to do his bidding for him. Au contraire i burn deluded twisted liars and robotic ignoramuses like you. I doubt if you have the ability to reason properly let alone understand what i tried to put across. I guess this limitation in reasoning is probably why you think i was insulting your mother. Unless you are telling me that your mother does not live in the Gambia, why is she immune from persecution by Jammeh's witch-hunters? Is she anymore a human being than all those mothers subjected to the humiliations of being tagged a witch, kidnapped and poisoned, that the sheikh will spare her at all cost? Would you still call Mr Sallah an oportunist politician for standing up to this tyrannical abuse and getting jailed for it had, your mother been one of the victims? Those are the issues i raise but your wee brain somehow process it as me abusing your mother. My mother could have been a victim for all i know.
Talking about the 'average Green Boy or Girl' i would gladly welcome a million of them in Gambian society than to have ten programmed Boko Haram Talibans like you any time. The 'average Green Boy or Girl' probably would have weighed the pros and cons of the value of Sheikh Jammeh and believed that his input as the leader of the nation towards the development of the Gambia and her people is more significant than the tyranny he unleashes daily on the people. There is no crime in believing this. It is absolutely normal in any given democracy. You see Mullah Santa, people have the freedom to choose in a democracy. It is for that reason that i do not persecute Jammeh supporters lest i risk being a dictator by going against that crucial tenet of democracy. You on the other hand are a programmed robot led to believe that you have claim to the highest authority and sanctified interpretation of of a puritan Islamic belief that all those who do not abide by these 'supreme' doctrines should be stripped of all their humanity and 'roasted in hell' All this on the background of you not being able to speak or read Arabic(language of the Koran) and you do not understand Arab culture. Your only understanding of the Koran is subject to the interpretation of others. With a warped and ignorant understanding of this interpretaion you have marauded with a contemptuous zeal to persecute your fellow Muslims and infidels. Mourids, Sufis, Tijanis, Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists and believers of other faiths are lesser human beings than you. Your zealous intolerance had exposed a potential genocidal maniac in you. For that reason you are more of a threat to Gambian or any society than the 'average Green Boy or Girl.' Sometimes i often wonder how you have not made it to the caves of Tora Bora yet or blow yourself somewhere in an infidel community with a suicide belt strapped around you. I do not know the crowd you mix with but they are no good for you my brother!!! Own your mind Santa or someone else will remote control you to meet Allah faster than you would ever imagine.
As for your ignorant take about Jammeh's tribal rant on Gambia TV and my supposive condoning of it, i'd like say that you are as clueless and ignorant as Jammeh or even worse. My take is that Jammeh's comment is irresponsible chatter, so don't you try to fcuking put words in my mouth. Jammeh is just another downright ignorant like you. He is not a tribalist. You would not even know meaning of the word if it slaps you on the left eye. To say that the Sheikh is a 'tribalist' because he insult Mandinkas is going too far. What tribe in the Gambia gets the brunt of Jammeh's abuse and insult more than the Jolas. How many times did he stood up in Foni and publicly called the Jolas 'backward' and 'witch infested' communities? Did you not care about the then? He had been unleashing the his evil witch-hunters on the Jolas for over a decade before the rest of the Gambia came to know what these witch-hunting exercises are all about. Does that make him 'tribalist' towards the Jolas. What population of any tribe in the Gambia is more proportionally represented in terms of heads per tribe in Mile than Jolas. Did you not care for the Jolas too. He does not even spare the Lebanese and Europeans in his regular rants for God's sake. Stop this 'tribalist' nonsense lest you become suspect. Jammeh is a despicable ignorant despot not a 'tribalist.' |
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turk
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Posted - 10 Aug 2009 : 05:00:42
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Shaka
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All this on the background of you not being able to speak or read Arabic(language of the Koran) and you do not understand Arab culture. Your only understanding of the Koran is subject to the
This is a not related to the topic and I am not going to involve in your exchange with Uncle Santa, but you don't need to speak Arabic to understand the Quran. Even Arabs can't understand the Quran by just reading it. We have tefsir (Explanation of Quran versus as text which can be translated to other languages) to learn about Quran which can be translated to other languages. And you don't need know about Arabic culture. Because Islam is universal. And if you associated Muslims in general with the Tora Bora, I condemn that. It is stereotype and islamophobia. I am very liberal muslim. I don't involve with anyone's religion, however, I do not appreciate to be included in the same category as Osama or Taliban. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 10 Aug 2009 : 08:08:14
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Turk, don't waste your time on a twisted bitter programmed over zealot fanatic. How can expressing an opinion on the politics of Halifa ever equals hate? let him murder himself if he thinks Gambians will ever again leave politicians alone just becus they say they are pan-africanist or speak eloqouent. such eras are gone.
Whoever you are remember, Halifa perfected his art of politics by dignosing and scrutising others, what would he mind if he taken to task once in a while? what are you so worried about heeey?
Is there something you know about that shouldn't come out? is that why you are on egde about a veteran politician?
the days and times of taking things at face value are over Shaka, grow up.
As for the taliban rant, bring it on. I am a proud muslim, i welcome all your ill comments on that direction.
It is you who put disgutsing words in your filty mouth, not me. Yaya's remark wasn't just a chatter, he is the national president, he should know when and were to speak his mind. he was elected by a cross section of Gambians. by making irresponsible remarks against a major tribe in the Gambia borders on serious political errors.
but for you, your real intention of following Halifa is base on serious bigotry and i hope Halifa disown you.
Now is the time for sober PDOIS folks to condem and distance themselves from your desperation.
Halifa will be discuss and his political actions will be analysed, either is politics class or during history lessons. get use to it.
by the way, nice to see your comfortable bedfellowship with the green girls and boys. talk more shake...
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Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Aug 2009 : 10:36:54
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Sis Omega,
Sorry for coming back late. You are right that we clamour/advocate for freedom of expression here. Why i said that President should leave tribal issues out of his speeches is tribe is a very sensitive issue. In the first republic Hon. Nyimasata Sanneh-Bojang reportedly said in Banjulding at a PPP rally that Jolas are like chicken give them nice benechin and you win them over. If Jolas didnt take offense then is becos they were pacific guys. But that was an Insult. Nyimasata is not entitled to use the (kal or Sanawya) joke becos she's not Fula or Serere, who joke with Jolas. In the same light even if Jammeh said something about Mandinka it would be taken in for an insult or attack even if its not. There are people out there are just lying in wait to play the tribal card for their selfish interest.
As politicians or celebrities, we must avoid to make jokes which could be misconstrued. In 2003 World cup football qualifiers, the Gambia and Senegal could have gone to war for an irresponsible and erratic Elhaji Diouf. Diouf reportedly said the return leg would a war, and some ignorant fans took the words literally. Fans of both countries were attacked and businesses vandalised.
I say it here again loud and clear , if people are nostalgic about the Jawara days i am not . I prefer Jammeh's hell to Jawara's paradise. If that sucks some , so be it. |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 10 Aug 2009 : 11:18:58
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"people are nostalgic about the Jawara days i am not . I prefer Jammeh's hell to Jawara's paradise. If that sucks some , so be it." Madiba
No one here is gloting over Jawara my dear. if you read carefully, you would have seen folks exposing and emphasising the corrupt and weak leadership of jawara. In fact other topics are abound with his lack of vision and direction. the issue is, why do you continue to give the benefit of doubt to a president who jailed and maimed for no reason except on false pretex?
The yaya hell! since you are not in it, you are the wrong person to make a jab over it. People here have uncles, brothers etc in that hell, i hope you have it in you to remember them before laughung at them.
You are very far from yaya's hell, but some are right in it. it is those people we feel for. jawara for all we care should be discuss as part of Gambia's history. his political judgement etc should be discussed and were found wanting commented upon in the strongest possible terms. Similarly, a president who can quickly send folks to jail for trivial issues yet let murders and dissappearences go unsolve for years is not worth being a president. that is the issue. you prefaring an oppressor is typical of our African so-call scholars. without whom folks like yaya have no chance. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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shaka
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Posted - 10 Aug 2009 : 18:41:16
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Originally posted by turk
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All this on the background of you not being able to speak or read Arabic(language of the Koran) and you do not understand Arab culture. Your only understanding of the Koran is subject to the
This is a not related to the topic and I am not going to involve in your exchange with Uncle Santa, but you don't need to speak Arabic to understand the Quran. Even Arabs can't understand the Quran by just reading it. We have tefsir (Explanation of Quran versus as text which can be translated to other languages) to learn about Quran which can be translated to other languages. And you don't need know about Arabic culture. Because Islam is universal. And if you associated Muslims in general with the Tora Bora, I condemn that. It is stereotype and islamophobia. I am very liberal muslim. I don't involve with anyone's religion, however, I do not appreciate to be included in the same category as Osama or Taliban.
Why do you always want to provoke me into unnecessary bickering by twisting my argument into divisive points to get my attention Turk. If you are telling me that Arab culture had not in any form shaped Islam, then i would say that you are as deluded as the Mullah. Besides that was not my point. The issue here is that the puritan Islamic version that Mullah Santa is proselyting and in the process persecuting his fellow Muslims and people of other faith as heretics is absolutely Arabo-centric. To fully understand it you have to at least have a grasp of Arab language and culture. It is not the popular Islam that you and almost all Gambian Muslims embraced. This archaic, primitive and inflexible version of orthodox Wahhabi Islam is wreaking havoc in Muslim societies around the world. The recent Boko Haram uprising is example of the dangers of permitting ideological zombies like Mullah Santa who clearly lack the ability to reason properly to flourish in our societies. African governments and Islamic scholars have long been wary of Petro-Islam and its consequences in Africa. Petro-dollars from oil rich Wahabi Muslim Arab countries most notably Saudi Arabia is the source of inducements to Muslim communities in poor contries to spread their form of extreme Shari'a Islam. If allowed to permeate our societies it has the potential to kill secularism and African cultural values within the shortest possible time. I would not be surprised if our resident Mullah is a beneficiary from their inducements. They are probably responsible for his payroll or college fees. I have seen so many Gambian youth brainwashed by this sect and it is evident that they have little understanding of its meaning except for what have been programmed in their heads. In their state of confusion some of them have gone absolutely nuts wondering the streets of the Gambia muttering incomprehensions or filling our mental asylums. These zombies also provides potential targets for recruit by fanatical terrorists. What is most terrifying is how they try to force a way of life to the rest of us, most of the time very violently indeed.
So Turk before you accuse me of Islamophobia at least understand where i am coming from. Santa knows clearly what i am on about but he is just grasping straws. |
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