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Moe



USA
2326 Posts

Posted - 09 Jun 2009 :  17:20:54  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
The recent shake up at the Ministries and civil service shows how dedicated President Jammeh is in achieving a professional workforce. Unless you are unaware of the facts within the civil service ,as of recent government has made major strides and progress towards macroeconomic stability which led to a growth that has been unimaginable due to all the obstacles they had to deal with .

For the past three years or so they have been engaged in a complete transformation of their fiscal policies and structural reforms which triggered the massive growth in the economy. Regardless of how Jammeh is being judged so far he is going the right direction, and personally i feel the house cleaning at the Justice department was overdue.Its a shame to have people who call them selves lawyers and solicitors being so incompetent.

The Gambian Justice system has turned into a complete mockery and am not talking about the laws that were set up to govern the citizens. Am talking about JUSTICE ,"THE RIGHT DECISION ", Its pretty Obvious That there is no perfect justice system on earth and there never will be as long as there are imperfect people .The fact is our own biased attitudes affect the way we view the rightness in a decision as in the case of Fatou Jaw Manneh ,Judgement's need to be consistent but as Gambians we have a way of viewing or distorting the answer so that it best fits our prejudices.

The Gambian civil service needs a complete overhaul and it does not take a rocket scientist to figure it out ,starting from the backlogs of cases at the court houses to the excessive negligence at all police stations in the Gambia ,It's a shame the Police don't even know what their roles are, instead both the police and military use their authority to abuse the rights of the citizenry. This is mainly due to lack of proper training and understanding of the law.

If atleast Gambians can trust in the Justice system,everything else will fall in place,this i can assure you .In every modern society the rule of law is the order of the day , It's only in Gambia that you will hear,lets "Masala" .

You can sit here and blame Jammeh for all the failures in the civil service but the TRUTH still remains,Why would any institution fail if all the risks are assessed by supposed Masters degree holders and Dr's. It's pretty amazing the exchuses Gambians can come up with for being incompetent.

The messed up thing about the civil service is the fact that instead of being innovative and productive most of these professionals are busy with in fights and power struggle, The problem is the fact that the Government cannot accommodate them so they turn to eliminating each other, Everyone wants what someone else has and is praying on a daily basis for their bosses to get fired so they could accomodate their greed and needs.

The civil service is in the mess it is in because Gambians are dependents of the state ,They will try to get rich off the state instead of earning it the hard way. They all wanna be called directors and managers once they have a little education.

Regardless of all these obstacles the growth trend is very positive and clearly shows that the guys at the finance department are obviously doing their job under the leadership of a mogul. The growth shows a trend of sustainable development no doubt about that. The house cleaning will help the various departments restructure and reorganize ,and that is with the right leaders........................................................................Peace


I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....

Edited by - Moe on 10 Jun 2009 07:52:29

toubab1020



12314 Posts

Posted - 09 Jun 2009 :  20:03:51  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Moe

coming soon


May be interesting, can't wait.

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.

Edited by - toubab1020 on 09 Jun 2009 20:04:20
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snuggels

960 Posts

Posted - 09 Jun 2009 :  20:34:41  Show Profile
"The Greatest Discovery of my Generation is that Man can alter his life simply by altering his attitude of mind"

Yep its all a case of mind over matter

I dont mind and you dont matter LoL
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Kitabul Arerr



Gambia
645 Posts

Posted - 09 Jun 2009 :  21:34:59  Show Profile Send Kitabul Arerr a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Moe

coming soon



Hmmmmm, still scratching my head.......!?!?!


The New Gambia - Stronger Together!
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Moe



USA
2326 Posts

Posted - 10 Jun 2009 :  06:51:37  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
I would suggest you reach in your pants and scratch!!!!!!.

I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....
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Moe



USA
2326 Posts

Posted - 10 Jun 2009 :  07:54:57  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
Just maybe

I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....
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kayjatta



2978 Posts

Posted - 10 Jun 2009 :  09:55:03  Show Profile Send kayjatta a Private Message
Moe 'affo Jilanka ye sabari'. Jammeh Musa!
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Jack



Belgium
384 Posts

Posted - 10 Jun 2009 :  11:07:59  Show Profile Send Jack a Private Message
[red] "The messed up thing about the civil service is the fact that instead of being innovative and productive most of these professionals are busy with in fights and power struggle, The problem is the fact that the Government cannot accommodate them so they turn to eliminating each other, Everyone wants what someone else has and is praying on a daily basis for their bosses to get fired so they could accomodate their greed and needs."[red]

How can you blame the civil service if that power struggle is a result of the power struggle on the top where eliminating each other seems to be some kind of 'national sport'.

Regards




Edited by - Jack on 10 Jun 2009 11:10:15
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toubab1020



12314 Posts

Posted - 10 Jun 2009 :  11:52:05  Show Profile Send toubab1020 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Jack

[red] "The messed up thing about the civil service is the fact that instead of being innovative and productive most of these professionals are busy with in fights and power struggle, The problem is the fact that the Government cannot accommodate them so they turn to eliminating each other, Everyone wants what someone else has and is praying on a daily basis for their bosses to get fired so they could accomodate their greed and needs."[red]

How can you blame the civil service if that power struggle is a result of the power struggle on the top where eliminating each other seems to be some kind of 'national sport'.

Regards



Jack, you have hit the nail right on the head ,but I can hear murmerings of "well you would say that wouldnt you"

"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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ebou4th



USA
106 Posts

Posted - 10 Jun 2009 :  15:16:25  Show Profile Send ebou4th a Private Message
http://www.foroyaa.gm/modules/news/article.php?storyid=2645

Here is a sound analysis from Foroyaa. Might be what Gambia needs is separation of powers, the executive branch controls too much power. As a result the Gambia has turn into a one branch show.

Real changes have to start from the top. What happens to the buck stops here? The U.S military leadership philosophy revolves around the theory: The Officer is responsible for any and everything under his or her command.



“Revolutions are brought about by men, by men who think as men of action and act as men of thought.”

Kwame Nkrumah
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Janyanfara



Tanzania
1350 Posts

Posted - 10 Jun 2009 :  17:05:40  Show Profile Send Janyanfara a Private Message
Thank you your excellency for such a move.The Man is now really seeing the real enemies of democracy, rule of law and progress of our dear Motherland.

This is a clear signal to any who tries to live by greed on the expence of others.I am the happiest Man today.Atleast one branch responsible of Gambia's backwardness is cut.

Edited by - Janyanfara on 10 Jun 2009 17:06:35
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Moe



USA
2326 Posts

Posted - 10 Jun 2009 :  20:39:52  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
Nah "boy o" Bulla, mbaringkay, He the HNIC.................................Peace
quote:
Originally posted by kayjatta

Moe 'affo Jilanka ye sabari'. Jammeh Musa!


I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....

Edited by - Moe on 10 Jun 2009 22:16:26
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Moe



USA
2326 Posts

Posted - 10 Jun 2009 :  20:47:01  Show Profile Send Moe a Private Message
It has always been a National sport.During the Jawara Regime it was done under cover and now adays they really don't care who is looking .You really don't have to remind me that the right checks and balances are not functioning as expected, i know that.So the gross negligence and incompetence gets to be blamed on Jammeh right!!!!........................................................Peace
quote:
Originally posted by Jack

[red] "The messed up thing about the civil service is the fact that instead of being innovative and productive most of these professionals are busy with in fights and power struggle, The problem is the fact that the Government cannot accommodate them so they turn to eliminating each other, Everyone wants what someone else has and is praying on a daily basis for their bosses to get fired so they could accomodate their greed and needs."[red]

How can you blame the civil service if that power struggle is a result of the power struggle on the top where eliminating each other seems to be some kind of 'national sport'.

Regards






I am Jebel Musa better yet rock of Gibraltar,either or,still a stronghold and a Pillar commanding direction

The GPU wants Me Hunted Down for what I don't know .....

Edited by - Moe on 11 Jun 2009 04:08:22
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Nyarikangbanna

United Kingdom
1382 Posts

Posted - 10 Jun 2009 :  21:13:56  Show Profile Send Nyarikangbanna a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by ebou4th

http://www.foroyaa.gm/modules/news/article.php?storyid=2645

Here is a sound analysis from Foroyaa. Might be what Gambia needs is separation of powers, the executive branch controls too much power. As a result the Gambia has turn into a one branch show.

Real changes have to start from the top. What happens to the buck stops here? The U.S military leadership philosophy revolves around the theory: The Officer is responsible for any and everything under his or her command.






Ebou4th, I don't think separation of powers is the issue here as that has being profoundly engendered by the 1997 Constitution [as amended] I think the problem lies with the system that has been thrown over our heads by those who pioneered the 1997 constitution and sold it to the Gambian people with a misleading label.. That is, a presidential Style System of Democracy. As far as Gambian politics is concern, this system is only good in theory. But in practice, it does not sit well with the realities of our politics. The ruling party will always have an overwhelming majority in Parliament who will always support the incumbent on any issue regardless of merits, and given that ministers don't sit in parliament under this system, opposition MPs, no matter how talented, have little or no opportunity to hold the executive to account.

I think the best option is for us to revert to Parliamentary Democracy. That would allow a more effective scrutiny of the executive as ministers, who will themselves be parliamentarians, would be more frequently and robustly engaged by the opposition through regular parliamentary debates.

Secondly, a presidential style democracy is alien to Gambians. Our republic was founded on the backbone of a British model parliamentary democracy and it far better understood by our people than this current system. They have lived with it from the P.S Njie/D.K Jawara era and D.K Jawara/S.M Dibba era, and came out from the first republic with a brilliant understanding of what Parliamentary Democracy actually means.

I think you will agree will me that even though the PPP always have an overwhelming majority in parliament, the existing system then allowed far better albeit not adequate scrutiny of the executive than this current system.

Parliamentary Democracy is not only a British or Commonwealth norm, it is a Gambian norm. The sooner we revert to it, the better it will be for our political system and democracy.


Thanks


I do not oppose unity but I oppose dumb union.

Edited by - Nyarikangbanna on 10 Jun 2009 22:08:02
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ebou4th



USA
106 Posts

Posted - 10 Jun 2009 :  22:18:56  Show Profile Send ebou4th a Private Message

I guess I should have elaborated. What I meant is a system that subjects the Presidents nominees to confirmation by the legislature. This way the people will have a say in who holds high public office.

I know this will not work under a rubber stamp system but we cannot blame the APRC for that.

“Revolutions are brought about by men, by men who think as men of action and act as men of thought.”

Kwame Nkrumah
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kaanibaa



United Kingdom
1169 Posts

Posted - 11 Jun 2009 :  00:01:43  Show Profile Send kaanibaa a Private Message
These sacking remind me of winter time in Europe when the trees shed off their leaves, the difference though is that at least the trees come up with newer leaves and give a fresh outlook to the scenery, on the other hand we see at times a resurgence of erstwhile fired officials on the Gambian scene making one wonder whether the firings were at all necessary, or well thought out. It seems to me that at times sheik Yahya does act on impulse and later regret his acts that may be why he reappoints them. This musical chair program has become bogus as far as I am concerned as it has become too common a practice of the Yahya regime. No office holder has a guaranteed appointment , they are all squatting on eggs , all just waiting to be booted out all safe His Excellency that is.Like some cynic said somewhere; let them enjoy the booting as they went into the said offices fully aware of what they may get in the end ; the kicking of their righteous behinds out of office if I may say so.
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