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turk
USA
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 Posted - 24 May 2009 : 22:38:07
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OK. We hear a lots of voodoo, withch hunting, bush doctors etc. But most of us are very ignorant about the religion exisited in Senegambia/Mali Region. What is the religion Tamsier talking about? They refer it as Animism but that term is used for many other religions as well. They use the Pagan as well. Pagan is a generic term. For example, before Turks accepted Islam in 900s, they used to be Shaman. They still have same religion in Siberia and North America. SO what is the name of the religion before Islam/Christianiy came to Africa. Tamsier mentions that before Islam/Christianity came to Africa, everything was much better, peaceful and there was unity.
Tamsier, can you enlighten us on this subject? But before he share his deep knowledge, I will post my wiki link I found.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansa_Musa
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
Edited by - turk on 24 May 2009 22:46:14 |
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tamsier
United Kingdom
557 Posts |
Posted - 25 May 2009 : 00:35:12
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Turk,
I do not like using this word but I must - you have just shown yourself to be a 'liar'. You do not even have the noble qualities to quote me correctly. I can appreciate mis-quoting someone by mistake, but to deliberately do it by using untrue sentences/phrases just to fit your agenda is pretty low. The reason I decided not to have a debate with you before in a similar topic was because you were very insulting and did not even provide any evidence/account in history. Atleast with me, everytime I rebut Islam I have provided the historical account/evidence and if not, had given were one can find them [in the history /religious section] were I had several discussion with people on this site about religion with ample of citations, historical events and dates, and therefore find no need to revisit them again or in most cases do not have the time. Atleast by telling people were they can find my relevant citations, that will give them the opportunity to either look for it or not [if they choose to]. Unlike you, I use various sources [books, rear books, internet, archives, scholary work, articles, Quran, etc], you on the other hand copy and paste from wikipedia as evident above. You have just shown to me you lack character and honour and as such don't expect me to contribute to your post.
Peace. |
Tamsier
Serere heritage. Serere religion. Serere to the end.
Roog a fa ha. |
Edited by - tamsier on 25 May 2009 00:37:06 |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 25 May 2009 : 07:10:27
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| Liar. Prove it. They are all quoted from your post. What is the difference between a book and wikipedia. One is paper the other electroniv version. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 May 2009 : 17:53:50
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Guys Paganism and Aninism are more or lesss the same. This is becuase they are both used to describe religious practices that existed before the coming of the mian organized reliogions ie. Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Paganism was not only specific to Africa or the senegambia but almost the entire world. Before the advent of Islam in the Arabian peninsula , animism was the main religion.
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2009 : 13:36:09
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Islam was superior to anyone from 6th century to 16th century. The poetry, the literacy, the science was much advance than Europeans before enlightenment in Europe. In mathmatics, astronomy, medical islam was much advance.
Obviously, african animisim was not able to compete with Islam. Same with Shamanistic Turks in Central asia in 10th century who accepted Islam. African religions did not have 'settled civilization'. Same characteristics with Shamanistic Turks. If you travel in Asia minor or turkistan and central asia, turks did not have any historical sights left from shamanistic turks. Most buildings are post-islamic. Most Turkish architecture was post-islamic. Turks more have nomadic life style and african religions did not have any permanent settlement either. The other reason islam tookover african and shamanistic turks was having alphabet. The science, literacy, the religion and the text of Quran was available to africans and shamans in central asia.
African animism is still living today. Just like shamanism in Siberia. But it is far from having any impact on our lives today. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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mbay
Germany
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Posted - 02 Jul 2009 : 16:48:42
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| Hmmm , I checkout so many time to find out what is African first religion, including with Muata Ashby and John Mbiti but I always come to the stock. I wonder if anyone knows it? |
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