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tamsier
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 24 Apr 2009 : 18:25:46
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the ten commandments - 'written by the finger of god on two tables of stone, this divine code as received from the almighty by moses amid the thunders of mount sanai'.
Christ resumed these commandments in the double precept of charity- love of god and of the neighbour; 'He proclaimed them as binding under the New Law in matthew 19 and in the Sermon on the Mount (matthew 5)'
Aren't jesus and moses prophets in the islamic faith?
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Tamsier
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 May 2009 : 01:26:24
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Originally posted by tamsier
the ten commandments - 'written by the finger of god on two tables of stone, this divine code as received from the almighty by moses amid the thunders of mount sanai'.
Christ resumed these commandments in the double precept of charity- love of god and of the neighbour; 'He proclaimed them as binding under the New Law in matthew 19 and in the Sermon on the Mount (matthew 5)'
Aren't jesus and moses prophets in the islamic faith?
What is your source of reference on the quotes for ten commandments? Is it Holy Quran, Holy Bible or Torah?
Prophet Essa ('Jesus') and Prophet Musa ('Moses'); may peace be on them are indeed prophets under the Islamic faith! So what are you pointing out to us? I don't think you have anything to substantiate but making mockery of someone's faith?
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tamsier
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29 May 2009 : 22:02:29
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I am not making a mockery of anyone's faith. A question was asked and I responded by quoting scripture from the bible - a passage that is accepted by the Quran and they both [Quran and bible] take their origin from the Jewish Torah.
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Tamsier
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 30 May 2009 : 01:36:12
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A passage is different from a verse or scripture? Torah came before compilation of Bible! After Bible Quran came! The scriptures and verses in all three are completely different! Please note that there are different kinds of interpretations and philosophy in them?
To remind you on topic, discussions are about "Can human beings see God?" If not a mockery, then what is your point or any references to any comment(s) in this topic that necessitate quoting this scripture of Bible (from authoritative source if any)? Which question were you trying to answer? |
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tamsier
United Kingdom
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Posted - 30 May 2009 : 08:13:12
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If you bothered to read the first page you will know how and why I needed to revert to scripture to justify a point. I made my original point in page one but apparently you have not read it. I suggest you read things before being defensive. Further, I don't need you telling me which book came first the torah, bible and quran. My point made it absolutely clear that both the bible and quran trace their origins from the Torah. I have already made clear that point, and for you to make a somewhat similar point is silly. There may be different interpretations in certain areas but that does not negate the fact that the torah is the original sources.
Do yourself a favour. Read your holy book, acquire knowledge then come back to me.
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Tamsier
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 30 May 2009 : 21:33:26
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I have read previous postings and your points but not yet clear about your original point of reference on this scripture (from Bible) and why you brought Torah and Quran supports that scripture? These holy books are totally different and the scriptures did not harmonised with each other as you tried to simplify to justify a point for your own defence! You want us to accept that the Quran and Torah gave authority and endorsement to that scripture; in simple terms? If you got a point and want to refer to a scripture from the Bible, just quote from Bible (or any other holy book) as original authoritative source but please don't relate them as the interpretations are different? Even if Torah is original source of references to some extent, it is in-complete without New Testament (Bible)and The Last Testament (Quran). In certain quarters they would wonder what do you mean trying to harmonise the Quran with Bible and Torah vice versa? As far I understand my holy book, the Quran is not Bible or Torah! The scriptures are totally different in form and content but their ultimate goals are "KNOWLEDGE AND FEAR GOD!", "GUIDE THROUGH THE RIGHT PATH!", "FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS!", "DIGNITY! & WONDERFUL COMMUNITY"
Please proof your point clear from where I began with you on why?
Lets exchange in a very mature way? Mind your words (not to be rude and provocative!) for these exchanges are to share knowledge, educate, learn from each other, clear mis-conceptions, many interests and benefits for members and public?
"GUIDE US THROUGH THE RIGHT PATH!"
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kobo
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 Jul 2009 : 00:09:26
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If mankind indulged in any form of idol worship or a known personality in either human form on non-human as the God belief to be; obviously those human beings can see God? In simple terms; if you stand infront of your idol worshipping are you not seeing the God you belief in? If you think Jesus is your God and got a vision of him you belief that you are seeing your God?
However one can benefit from learning about ALLAH & ATTRIBUTES OF ALLAH under:-
i) Learn About Allah http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2432
ii) Proof of Allah's Existence From Noble Quran http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2668 |
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