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kayjatta
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 Posted - 04 Feb 2009 : 07:02:05
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This almost amounts to a hate speech. Xenophobia?
Okay Quantum-net has been in business for quite a while, and by-and-large they are a Gambian pride but Muhammed Jah needs to understand that you do not try to prosper by killing others. Please stop the attack on foreign nationals and foreign capital; those are not the problem. The Gambia's problem is its political leadership period.
http://observer.gm/africa/article/hard-work-earns-dignity-muhammed-jah
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 04 Feb 2009 : 17:51:36
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Kay
I did not see any attack on foreign nationals in the link you provide. Please assist. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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turk
USA
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Posted - 04 Feb 2009 : 21:00:41
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The article was updated from the original, kondo. While there was not no killing or any violant or hate attack, the guy was talking that all his stuff was 90 % gambian, while some lebanese guys in IT industry is taking money to out of Gambia. He was saying immigrants to Gambia taking the money they earn out of gambia.
correct me if I am wrong kay?
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 04 Feb 2009 : 21:05:20
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I dont see anything wrong in foreign natioansl taking their money to their countries. Thats why they are called foreign nationals. Infact the law of the land calls them "Aliens" as if they are from another planet.
Gambians overseas are remitting. So i dont see any harm in that. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander. If it is monies they earned, then thast is fine with me.
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“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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turk
USA
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Posted - 04 Feb 2009 : 21:39:46
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you are right kondo. If someone earn money, obviously he or she exchange 'labor','innovation','capital' for the money. Looking at the IT services by this dude, a leader of the IT industry, I am thinking that there is a good market in Gambia for foreigners to do business in IT sector.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 04 Feb 2009 : 22:01:42
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| Cant argue better. By the way, my understanding is that his company had won international contract i believe for the UN in some African country to do IT work. May be he needs a gentle reminder about that. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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turk
USA
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Posted - 04 Feb 2009 : 23:16:17
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It does not mean government not to have rules and regulation for foreign investment. Especially for corporations. If it is small business run by individuals or group of individuals, there should not be any restriction in my opinion. Because most likely what individual bring and takes almost equal. However, for corporations, there may be different story. Especially hotels in gambia. Considering the wages very low in Gambia compare the package prices comparing to other countries and most hotel inputs are import, what hotel brings to Gambia is far too low than what they take.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Feb 2009 : 23:23:57
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| Monopoly Capitalism can some times back fire. Quantum Associates enjoyed a near monopoly and thought of consolidating by patronising the Chairman of Gambia Revolutionary Alliance of Patriots. It could have worked for a while but there goes market dynamics not respecting boundaries. There is real economic tussle. Like it was done to butchers and bakers, Kanilai dictator of development may once again blow the wind in QuantumNet's direction. |
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turk
USA
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Posted - 04 Feb 2009 : 23:51:05
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Seeing QuantumNet position and the services/products they offer, I see gambian IT sector indeed needs a competitor. My left angel says why not an early retirement and restart your work in Gambia :)
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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Karamba
United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2009 : 00:02:01
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"Please stop the attack on foreign nationals and foreign capital; those are not the problem. The Gambia's problem is its political leadership period." Kayjatta
The Observer clearly refers to non-Gambian dominance of the productive sector. From the editorial below, they are sending same hate message as the president does.
http://observer.gm/africa/article/towards-a-city-state
In Gambia it is a matter of what the devils dictate paramount chief, Commander of the sea, forests and hills of Gambia H E Doftar Jammeh.
Unless Jammeh improves his contempt for non Gambians, he will continue throwing his weight over everything. Quite unfortunately, Jammeh's attiyude and mindset is what dictates how things go in Gambia.
Gambians have to know that those living elsewhere far from Kartong-Koina are also aliens in those countries.
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turk
USA
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Posted - 05 Feb 2009 : 02:36:49
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Karamba
What is true?
Gambians are like that because of the president?
President is like that because of his gambianness?
Obviously the leader have impact on the people? But how much? Or the president is just telling what people like to hear?
Again, I don't really put a lots of weight on political leaders. They are reflection of the society, no?
I have this guy friend, lebanase who owns some retail business chain in gambia. We were in palma rima, and the craft salesman rasta insulted him in wolof thinking he was a toubab. The guy confronted him as the guy was speaking wolof fluently. (That was a shocking to me as many lebanases actually fluent in wolof)
Later on I have seen this guy who insulted us and have conversation. He told me every wrong things about this lebanases guy being rich, running good business, taking the money and stuff. I have experienced many incidents about very unfair critism for lebanases business. Further the small business owners of mauritians, guinue. Further, even african foreigner who don't have much money and work for the local business treated very bad especially by the police.
I am not sure if you blame on jammeh. That is really unfair to jammeh. He DOES NOT have any negative opinion of foreigners and the business. He supports them further he really appreciates the foreign investers/professionals I personally witness his humble attitude.
This is typical attitude in many places not only in Gambia. Nationalists in Austria blames immigrants too. The point is 'it is so easy to blame political leadership' but the issue is not simple that would be resolve easily. It requires social changes.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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kayjatta
2978 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2009 : 07:06:40
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Originally posted by kondorong
Kay
I did not see any attack on foreign nationals in the link you provide. Please assist.
Kondorong, I think Turk is right on this one(he hasn't been right many times though  ). The speech by Mr. Jah that I read yesterday has been changed. Perhaps that comfirms its inappropriateness.
Muhammed Jah's comments about a certain bank in the Gambia and the "Dog" story where a Lebanese business man told someone to give D300.00 to a Gambian official by referring to him (the official) as a dog in arabic (and presenting himself as a defender of that official) is inciteful and hypocritical. That official might have actually been a dog, afterall .
And remember Mr. Jah made this remark to the law makers of the country who were undergoing basic computer training (our law makers on a basic computer training? They might as well come to my 9 year old for that ). This in my view is very unhealthy.
If Mr. Jah has found new friendship with the Gambia government, he should not try to feed it on attacking foreigners. Afterall the Lebanese have been there before him; and before they apparently fell out with the Leviathan (oh I mean the Professor ... ). Remember all those fat donations in cars and cash by the "patriotic" Lebanese ? |
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turk
USA
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Posted - 05 Feb 2009 : 10:20:42
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Kondorong, I think Turk is right on this one(he hasn't been right many times though ).
see, you are sober now. How many times I told you not to use any substance when you debate with me, you haluncinate the world from the dubya's eyes.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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kayjatta
2978 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2009 : 10:25:10
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| Hey man, I have been sober since high school okay...? |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2009 : 10:51:59
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:)
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2009 : 19:14:19
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Turk/Kay
I think the site was edited before i read it. Thats way i said i could not see see anything wrong.
Well going by your posting, then those statements by Jah are inappropiate in my opinion. I think gambians have to be thankful to many foreigners especially, Ghanains and SierraLeoneans who provided teaching services and opened their colleges to gambians. Fourah Bay College, Njala College(Agriculture), Legon and Achimota.
They were the main nationals in our High Schools for many years and still relevant. I like technology transfers both in ht eform of human software and technical hard ware. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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