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Karamba

United Kingdom
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turk

USA
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Posted - 11 Jan 2009 : 02:22:00
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First Nazi costume, then this, the boay has got some issue. His mother was such a nice lady, sorry about the boy wasting his life and others. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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fee_sweetie

United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 Jan 2009 : 11:45:35
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He's just a young immature boy that speaks before he thinks..........thats the thing with the British Royal family.......they need to start living in the real world and actually intergrating with real people!!!!! |
"Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it you'd have good people doing good things + evil people doing evil things but for good people to do evil things it takes religion"- Richard Dawkins |
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black orchid

United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 Jan 2009 : 13:26:06
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"immature", no just arrogant, and lacking a few brain cells. I remember his grandfather(prince philip) referring to the chinese as "slitty eyes"!!!!
I was told that paki or pak, means pure in urdu. |
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black orchid

United Kingdom
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Dalton1

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Posted - 11 Jan 2009 : 16:14:22
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What do you expect from a son -a prince for that matter?
Some will come to the throne without merit. For whatever love God bestowed on them (royals all over), I ask that it be sprinkled to the many others that demonstrated the talents and capacity to lead a diverse world.
Going by the rejoinders to the many postings here, it is obvious that "immaturity" is his number one problem, secondary to looking low on others not from a British loyal dynasty. Well, well, the good thing he've got a gut and **** to apologize, at least. But I think rehabilitation will do for him. If he've got to be a Neo-nazi ninkompoop, then so be him a blood ****** full of hate. I don't believe in being too hard on him, he is just probably a young lad that hasn't grown to full maturity yet, but the early warnings signs he exihibits are a problem just now. We don't need no Hitler! We don't need no G.Bush or Tony Blair! We don't need no Bin Laden! And we don't need no African Mugabes!
Now the memories of Princess Diana will keep surfacing time and again. Could it be true then her alleged affair with an arab decendant (fiance) and pregnancy, could be the ultimate reason for her untimely death?
These royals gotto to be kidding me. But we know, Harry got some pride -pride of being born to loyals. You and I too got a pride -pride of being born of the ordinary. If it takes a wind blowing that crown hat off to promote a diverse world -a world of co-existence, then down with his irresponsible comments.
I for one, don't doubt that Thomas Paine must be groaning inside his grave. His lecture on monarchical leadership must be re-visited. I greatly share his frustration.
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Karamba

United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 Jan 2009 : 17:28:26
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quote: Originally posted by black orchid
"immature", no just arrogant, and lacking a few brain cells. I remember his grandfather(prince philip) referring to the chinese as "slitty eyes"!!!!
I was told that paki or pak, means pure in urdu.
The term 'Paki' is often used in the most extreme negative context and decent people prefer to avoid it. It may mean 'pure' in Urdu but English people have added meaning of the word that send chilling waves in social interplay.
Some social groups tend to coin up terms when they refer to others. That is possible within natives of the same country in various places.
In Gambia for example, the use of terms like, Boy Jola, Boy Pullo, Boy Sosseh (Masaneh),Boy Narr, Laakakat, Boy Njago, Fanafana, Boy Serrer, Yigo (Serahulley for boy), can be conceived in diverese context.
Racism and ethnicity are manifested in various ways.
Prince Harry whether he meant to exhibit the negative British view or simply enjoying a Boys Game is not clear. It is however clear that inside the minds of many British, Paki is a reserved word but one of the highly used in one-to-one gossip.
The prince may be thinking of one thing, put he inevitably added spice to the flavoured English gossip tongue. People and media seem to have a good beef to bite. |
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fee_sweetie

United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 Jan 2009 : 00:31:59
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It is however clear that inside the minds of many British, Paki is a reserved word but one of the highly used in one-to-one gossip.
Excuse me...I think you need to change your sweeping statement to a minority of British people!!!!!!!!!! I dont know where you live in the UK but you cannot speak for every British person! |
"Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it you'd have good people doing good things + evil people doing evil things but for good people to do evil things it takes religion"- Richard Dawkins |
Edited by - fee_sweetie on 12 Jan 2009 00:35:19 |
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Karamba

United Kingdom
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turk

USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jan 2009 : 01:07:39
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Let us not unfairly judge brits. I have many british friends who have very respectful to other ethnic groups and speak against !diotic discrimination in this case Harry has done. Every nations have good apples bad apples. Brits have as many as people like that Gambian or Turks have. |
diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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fee_sweetie

United Kingdom
127 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jan 2009 : 01:13:50
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http://www.nigeriannewsservice.com/news/148/ARTICLE/3917/2008-12-25.html
Have you ever heard that you cant believe all you read!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And i dont think they interviewed all british people and I dont think you know all british people either.
and to be honest with those kind of sweeping statements you are as arrogant as Prince Harry!
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"Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it you'd have good people doing good things + evil people doing evil things but for good people to do evil things it takes religion"- Richard Dawkins |
Edited by - fee_sweetie on 12 Jan 2009 01:17:23 |
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Karamba

United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jan 2009 : 01:30:10
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Fee_Sweetie,
Don't get it wrong that what is presented here conveys my belief. I have no intention of sweeping majority of Brits racist. I enjoy very cordial relations with people I share occasion with (work, social, education, otherewise). That is not just on English soil but around the wide world. In my experience, I have no personal complain about racism. Remember English are not the only WHITE people in Britain and that the racial orientation of other non-English whites once exhibited on English soil is RACISM IN ENGLAND.
As an issue, my lack of personal experience does not exempt me from discussing it. But no, please excuse me if it looks that I am conveying a racially charged agenda.
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fee_sweetie

United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 Jan 2009 : 02:09:46
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'Remember English are not the only WHITE people in Britain'
Yes there are also WHITE SCOTTISH people in Britian and WHITE WELSH people etc....shall I go on.....dont see what point you are trying to make
'Prince Harry whether he meant to exhibit the negative British view or simply enjoying a Boys Game is not clear. It is however clear that inside the minds of many British, Paki is a reserved word but one of the highly used in one-to-one gossip.'
These are your words are they not???? So once again I say ....Dont make a sweeping general statement when you cannot speak for everyone in Britain. I am not saying there isnt racisim here because I know there is as I have been victim to it myself. What I am trying to put across is that you cannot write that MANY british people find it ok and use the word Paki or any other similar degroitory word because you have no proof of that! I do not use the word or anything similar and I find it unexceptable and I will not stand by and have people put me in a general statement such as yours. |
"Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it you'd have good people doing good things + evil people doing evil things but for good people to do evil things it takes religion"- Richard Dawkins |
Edited by - fee_sweetie on 12 Jan 2009 02:14:39 |
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Karamba

United Kingdom
3820 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jan 2009 : 02:23:36
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If you have reason to beleive it is not MANY keep that up. I am in no position to submit stats and numbers. Are you present during all gossip encounters to tell us how low the numbers?
It will be one big occasion of great joy when lesser number of humans stay away from vices such as racism.
Unfortunately the human race is what it is. |
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Hiz Princess

United Kingdom
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Posted - 12 Jan 2009 : 12:01:03
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I think this is a difficult one.
The word paki many will argue is short for Pakistani my neighbour is from Pakistan he uses this word quite happily when describing our local corner shop.As do many people where I live despite their nationality's I choose not to use this word.However 3rd generation British Pakistanis use it and will argue that they have reclaimed the word. A friend has a Japanese bike if asked he will say its a Jap bike is this term considered racist?
I think with language it is the context it is used that determines the intent behind it. Look how the discussion about the term Toubab transgressed.Despite the word being clarified some still felt it was a derogatory term used against white people.
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fee_sweetie

United Kingdom
127 Posts |
Posted - 12 Jan 2009 : 12:08:24
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Ah very true Hiz princess.........even tho it has been explained I am one of the people that find 'Toubab' a not so nice word when its shouted at me in the street.........
Thats where there will always be problems......words have different definitions to different people, just a fact of life I suppose. It would be boring if we all thought the same wouldnt it |
"Religion is an insult to human dignity. Without it you'd have good people doing good things + evil people doing evil things but for good people to do evil things it takes religion"- Richard Dawkins |
Edited by - fee_sweetie on 12 Jan 2009 12:08:54 |
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