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Santanfara



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Posted - 15 Dec 2008 :  08:01:23  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
http://www.allgambian.net/NewsDetails.aspx?id=729
I conducted an interview with a kenyan scholar on the money allowed for hajj. insightful.

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com

kayjatta



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Posted - 15 Dec 2008 :  10:00:45  Show Profile Send kayjatta a Private Message
Observation: Santafara, I thought Hajj is the 5th pillar instead of the 4th as you mentioned in your interviewer's comment section. Any clarifications in case I am wrong?
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Santanfara



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Posted - 15 Dec 2008 :  11:23:01  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
how u dey kay? hajj is the fouth pillar. fasting the fifth. how did you find the interview?

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com
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kayjatta



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Posted - 15 Dec 2008 :  11:37:29  Show Profile Send kayjatta a Private Message
Okay that is the price for not listening to my 'ustass'. Thanks for that clarification anyway Santafara. I have been good, just a little upset that someone tried to hit my president with size ten shoes ...
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Santanfara



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Posted - 15 Dec 2008 :  13:00:55  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message

wonder were the cash is from hey. the many umrahs!

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com
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mbay

Germany
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Posted - 15 Dec 2008 :  13:25:37  Show Profile Send mbay a Private Message
BJ. Generally Muslims do not take Hajj seriously because in a number of Muslim communities the youth who form a significant population feel they are young and need ‘to enjoy life first, perform hajj, reform and remain steadfast. Another assumption is; Hajj is a privilege of the rich, therefore exclude themselves from Hajj. Of course if one can plan and target-save he becomes eligible.

I have little doubt here,
If we goes to some analysis then the youth goes to hajj Today's than before. they are in more better financially conditions than before and that in more bold for doing so .Whether it is halal is another question,that's why I do prefer to know where the money come from even if it sound strange.
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Santanfara



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Posted - 16 Dec 2008 :  11:42:30  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
Mbay, you are right in your observation many young people are going on hajj than old people. but that applies to other national not Gambians. I was concentrating on the mindset of the average Gambian young muslim who is willing to pay for every body except themself.

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com
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kayjatta



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Posted - 16 Dec 2008 :  12:22:42  Show Profile Send kayjatta a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Santanfara

how u dey kay? hajj is the fouth pillar. fasting the fifth. how did you find the interview?




Santafarais this information correct? I think this is what my "ustass" taught me, in the order of importance:
1. believe (Imaan)
2. prayer (salaat)
3. fasting (shaum ramadan
4. alms (zakat)
5. hajj (pilgrimage)

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_was_the_fifth_pillar_of_islam
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Santanfara



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Posted - 16 Dec 2008 :  20:45:24  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
kay, the numbering between fasting and hajj is interchange by many scholars. but the most quoted form is the one you mentioned that is hajj being last. see this link http://www.islam101.com/dawah/pillars.html
your oustass as well my karamo are right is placing hajj last as this means financial and physical capability whilst fasting has constraint but even poor people can belabor to do it. so yes, technically hajj is last.

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com
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