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Momodou
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mbay
Germany
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 Posted - 10 Sep 2008 : 10:30:38
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...and they said, freedom of speech. Well i don’t know what that means for us Muslim?
I love this country," he said. "I and those close to me owe a debt of gratitude to the UK for receiving us and allowing us to make this our home.
"My family and I came to this country as refugees to live the dream of a better life.
"The opportunity that was given to me I took with both hands and for the past 33 years it has been an honour to serve as a police officer in a number of police forces and the Met."
Indeed sad for this man, how long has he being struggling through his life, maybe wasn’t that bad in beginning as it is now but never the less , man work for the whole life for one arm and hope, suddenly comes dropt like this.
Who believe what is saying about integration/tolerances or freedom for all most been living in another planet.
I follow chanel4 programs recently about Muslims (Mosque) this was clear sign that we are not anymore save from this median campaign in this part of the world.
The remembrance is still fresh, how all starts with Hitler.
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 10 Sep 2008 : 17:57:35
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the Met. Police is Institutionally Racist. Commissions have been established and they have they admitted it themselves.
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MeMe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Sep 2008 : 18:19:53
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Originally posted by mbay
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I follow chanel4 programs recently about Muslims (Mosque) this was clear sign that we are not anymore save from this median campaign in this part of the world.
The remembrance is still fresh, how all starts with Hitler.
Trying to read what it is you want to convey here (sometimes easy, often not!?) ... can only assume you think Channel 4 is against muslims? Not so, they just like to be 'provocative/controversial' .... they recently also did a 5 week series called 'Make me a Christian' which was a bit of a strange series where they took the following people:
- a biker who's a tattooist and a militant atheist
- a young man who was brought up Christian until he was 12, and now has a girlfriend who is 10 weeks' pregnant
- a lap-dancing manager who can't live without continually acquiring expensive designer shoes
- middle-class parents who are so professionally busy that they have hardly any time to spend with their children
- a man in his 20s who, unbeknown to his girlfriend, goes out every week drinking and womanising
- a man who found Christianity unfulfilling and has converted to Islam
- a lesbian who sometimes sleeps with men
(oh, and the lap-dancing manager is also a fan of witchcraft).
The man in charge of it all is a certain Reverend George Hargreaves, an anti-gay evangelical preacher who leads The Christian Party so you can imagine the sort of 'christians' he wanted to make!!!
By the way, what has Hitler got to do with this??? |
It is better to die standing than to live on your knees - Ernesto Guevara de la Serna |
Edited by - MeMe on 10 Sep 2008 18:20:46 |
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Hiz Princess
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Sep 2008 : 22:29:02
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Originally posted by njucks
the Met. Police is Institutionally Racist. Commissions have been established and they have they admitted it themselves.
This isn't ground breaking news The 1999 Macpherson report highlighted this.
Institutional racism has been discovered in all walks of the public sector here in the UK. Look at our schools if you want to see the true impact .
I'm sorry but this whole thing smacks sour grapes and is damaging to all minority's in the UK.
You only have to read comments on some of the news pages to see the BNP supporters crawling out of the woodwork feeding off this farce.
Im curious as to why it has taken Tarique Ghaffur 34 years to find the same
I mean in 1974 his first day on the beat he was denied access to the Greater Manchester police Station by a desk sergeant based solely on his appearance.(is this not racism), it took him 8 years to become an inspector (im assured this is a very commendable feat even for a white officer) and within another 12 years was promoted to assistant chief constable and yet throughout this rise he made no complaints of institutional racism.Even despite the Macpherson report.
Now excuse my cynicism but,it seems now he's suddenly realised he not going any further up the chain, he now claims that racism at the top of the chain is as bad as it was at the bottom hmmmmmmmmm.
I think its unfortunate that the media (as usual) have found sensationalism in the fact he is Muslim which I personally think is irrelevant to this case but as has been noted and has been brought up here I note that Mr Ghaffur at his press conference announced he was not after monetary gain and as this the month of Ramadan, I wonder if he is successful, which charity he will be forwarding his compensation cheque to
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toubab1020
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Posted - 11 Sep 2008 : 01:11:10
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I am sure Mr. Ghaffur considers his suspension to be very unfair, and may amount to constructive dismissal.......depending on what his legal advisors say of course,that's a great shame because he must be very near retirement and pensionable age,let's see what is 2/3 of £180,000 per year plus a good lump sum amount to? Anyone know what such a senior officer in the police would get? |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Hiz Princess
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 Sep 2008 : 12:15:58
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Im sure he does.
Mr Ghaffur's current contract expires in March next year. I think he was staying till May then having served more than 30 years, he is eligible to retire immediately and receive a lump sum payout of £522,000 and an index-linked pension of £85,000 a year.
Although I read that he's looking for compensation that adds up to £2 million, which includes 4 years wages of course these will include the annual pay increases I assume
and he states...
"I'm not seeking massive monetary benefits and I do not have grievances against the whole of the Met, an organisation I dearly love and admire."
He's also suing Richard Bryan for racism now. |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 11 Sep 2008 : 14:21:32
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Thanks Hiz great piece, and the figures quoted are mind blowing ,let's see who pays all this money? ........ Ah yes..........I know  .........The Taxpayer of the UK  ....they certainly have a lot of expenses these ordinary folk in the UK who pay Tax. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Hiz Princess
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 Sep 2008 : 22:14:08
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Tell me about it grrrrrrrrr and I was thinking of fleeing to Gambia  but just looked at the pay structure
damned if you do damned if you don't eh
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toubab1020
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Posted - 11 Sep 2008 : 23:03:45
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| The Grass is greener on the other side,sometimes but not always |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Momodou
Denmark
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Posted - 11 Sep 2008 : 23:27:58
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| So you believe the issue is about money and not institutional racism? |
A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 11 Sep 2008 : 23:55:19
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| Momodou,of course I do,years ago things were different,but now everyone who is in (or should be in ) authority are so frightened that they may be taken to court or this tribunal or some other quango because they made some sort of observation or were misunderstood by this person or that, bend over backwards at the slightest wiff of confusion or sexism or this ....ism or that..... ism or anti this or anti that,they are unable to perform their function properly. We have discussed here on bantaba recently the way that things are in the UK.I expect now because I am considered to be not "socially aware" or some such other platitudinious phrase, I shall be branded a Nazi or some other extreme insult.Opinions are moulded here in the UK by subtle means and free speech curtailed by such means. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Momodou
Denmark
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Posted - 12 Sep 2008 : 09:26:50
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Toubab, the man used his freedom of speech and was suspended. May be this was what he feared all these past years. However, there are of course times when enough is enough and one can’t take any more. |
A clear conscience fears no accusation - proverb from Sierra Leone |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 12 Sep 2008 : 10:23:22
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| Yes I understand that you are right,but you know as well as I know that if you are in a very powerful position you have to think very hard about what you can say,because you are fully aware of the reaction that you will get,its not free speech I know but if you say exactly what you want to say and get the reaction that you expected (at a news conference using the press for instance!) by saying it AND demanding compensation for the way you have been treated which results in your suspension knowing full well that you will PROBABLY be offered vast amounts of money when you are going to quit anyway then, thats playing the system and the integrity of that system will suffer,its all about money and playing the system that has been set up.In some cases the system is being exploited. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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