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shaka
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 Posted - 11 Sep 2008 : 16:17:35
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Originally posted by toubab1020
"even if good free legal advice was available there would be no one to pay the court fees which are very expensive,so you couldn't get a court hearing anyway,dispite the court system being the envy of the world"
Good point Toubab, you know you are getting smarter everyday. The issue here is not Legal aid but human dignity. No person should be subjected to months and years of detention regardless the conditions of detention. That is why the Irish legal system is one of thebest in Europe because it permits a maximum 8 weeks detention nothing more. Regarding detainee who cannot provide papers of their countries of origin, i guess you arrest somebody backed by intelligence from investigations about such persons before arresting and detaining them. Therefore indefinite detention lacks merit.
Don't listen to that Legal fool cum sellout because it is very clear from his utterings that he does not know his legal rights much more the rights of individuals in the wider society. Every person legally resident in the UK has the right to access Legal aid as stipulated in the European Convention(and that include visa holders) "with exceptions including libel, most personal injury cases (which are now dealt with under Conditional Fee Agreements, a species of contingency fee) and cases associated with the running of a business." Visa holder have rights to some public services like healthcare, Legal aid among others. In short any Legal resident of the UK who lacks sufficient funding to ensure effective access to justice is entitled to legal aid. Only a fool leans upon his own misunderstanding(Bob Marley).
Coming back to the issue at hand, the UK and many European nations have violated many EU and UN Convention with regards to "protection in the event of removal, expulsion and extradition" of immigrants. Collective expulsion for example is prohibited in both the EU and UN Conventions yet still plane loads of immigrant herded like sardines are expulsed to third world nations every month by European nations. Europe had become poisoned with fear mongering from opportunist politicians who would say or do anything to get elected not out of love for their Citizens. Far right politicains are cropping from every corner brainwashing citizens to hate migrants irrespective of their value and contributions to society. But like Bob Marley said "no matter what stages.... or rages they put us through, we will never blue".
Dig this song man!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Stb2QkUzMY4&feature=related
Here is the lyrics: http://www.elyrics.net/read/b/bob-marley-lyrics/forever-loving-jah-lyrics.html |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 11 Sep 2008 : 17:18:05
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Jah Rastafari man !!
Seriously though please start a new topic under Irish legal system(or some heading like that) and tell us how it works, the topic here has been side tracked by other quite intesesting stuff that would make a good discussion. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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shaka
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Posted - 12 Sep 2008 : 00:41:44
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You know you are funny! Anyway i am not an expert in the Irish Legal System or law for that matter. I will leave that to the Legal gurus.
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toubab1020
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Posted - 12 Sep 2008 : 00:50:23
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Interesting concept though,maybe someone knows.
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 Sep 2008 : 16:37:36
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Culled from the Pointnewspaper
Justice Naceesay Sallah-Wadda Fired
http://thepoint.gm/africa/gambia/article/2008/9/12/justice-naceesay-sallah-wadda-fired
Friday, September 12, 2008
According to reliable sources Justice Naceesay Sallah-Wadda has been removed from office as a High Court judge yesterday. No official reason was advanced to this paper.
Justice Naceesay Sallah-Wadda was the one presiding on the Carnegie Mineral case amongst other cases.
It will be recalled that since July three Judges had been fired.
Source: Picture: Justice Naceesay Wadda
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I do not oppose unity but I oppose dumb union. |
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Nyarikangbanna
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 Sep 2008 : 17:07:42
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Originally posted by Hiz Princess
Hi Nyarikangbanna, just a thought maybe they mistook a creek for a river 
Public safety has been threatened by the frequent appearances of crocodiles near the Calypso Bar & Restaurant in Cape Point and at the women’s gardens in Jeshwang.
http://observer.gm/africa/gambia/article/2008/9/10/crocodile-threats-in-bakau-jeshwang
Well, I hope so. But the places you mentioned are nowhere near any of the country's exit points.
Those crocodiles who frequent the Cape point and Jeswang Flood Plains areas are not wild ones. They come from the Kachikala scared Crocodile pool in Bakau. They are sacred crocodiles belonging to the Bojang Family, one of the founding families of Bakau.
When I was a teenager and living in one of the suburbs of Bakau, we use to go to this pool and sometimes even touch the crocodiles.
Yes, sometimes they wonder off to far distances like the places you mentioned above and that is when they could become a potential public saftey hazard as they could be violent in an unfarmiliar environment but only when they feel threatened or antagonised. That is why the advice is always that; when you see one outside the vicinity of Kachikala, do not touch. Report it to the pool Wardens and they would do the rescue. I have watched them do that on countless occasions, and with little risk to themselves or the general public.
Anyway, thanks for your thoughts, Princess. I appreciate your concerns and knowledge about the Gambia, and please don't mind the ramblers. You just keep making sense, as usual, and leave them to their thing, alright!
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Edited by - Nyarikangbanna on 13 Sep 2008 18:38:16 |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 13 Sep 2008 : 19:43:34
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Ah yes.....Nyarikangbanna..... ramblers.......people who like to take walks in the countryside in England.
(Quite true definition, just a play on words, I understand what you mean)
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"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Edited by - toubab1020 on 13 Sep 2008 19:47:56 |
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Hiz Princess
United Kingdom
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Posted - 13 Sep 2008 : 20:59:15
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Originally posted by Nyarikangbanna
Culled from the Pointnewspaper
Justice Naceesay Sallah-Wadda Fired
It will be recalled that since July three Judges had been fired.
Source: Picture: Justice Naceesay Wadda
Three Judges!!! has any explanations been given??? |
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Hiz Princess
United Kingdom
464 Posts |
Posted - 13 Sep 2008 : 21:03:32
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Originally posted by Nyarikangbanna
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Anyway, thanks for your thoughts, Princess. I appreciate your concerns and knowledge about the Gambia, and please don't mind the ramblers. You just keep making sense, as usual, and leave them to their thing, alright!
Thanks
Nyarikangbanna, thank you for your vote of confidence.
I have never visited the croc park maybe on my next visit. |
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