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MADIBA
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 28 Aug 2008 : 20:01:09
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Konds,
I didn’t know that turbans are security threats too.
Anyway, the issue of short trousers is slightly exaggerated. I stand to be corrected, but the reason advanced for such a short-legged trouser is to avoid soiling it when walking, and later on praying in the same trousers. I think if the trousers were not over-sized, it would be difficult for an adult to soil them by walking them thru dirt. And why does it have to be sown the Pakistani/Afghani way? Cultural influence.
The lack of turban doesn’t make one less Muslim. It’s nice to have. It’s a mode of dress like any other. African elders, Muslims and traditionalist have been wearing hats anyway.
Why do pilgrims love dressing Arab-style when they return from Mecca? I think our own traditional dress would suffice. There are people from the old school that would tell you that it is Muslim dress. It is not. This is because the Syrian, Jordanian Christians do wear them as well as their Muslim brethren. When I first visited the Arab world, when its Jumaah prayers, I saw people dress in various dresses, from western to their own. I saw Imams lead prayers in suits and not Kaftan. I was awed. Another difference was immediately after salaam, people pick up their things and went their own ways. In The Gambia, most often people hang around for other prayers. It is said that the verses in the noble Quran, urge Muslims to leave whatever they were doing and attend the Friday prayers, but once its over, they are ordered to go and get on with their business.
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 Aug 2008 : 20:28:26
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I am getting very confused! 
Turbands in Leicester uk where I am from are associated with Sikhs.
They don't cut their hair.
But they are very peaceful and kind people.
Most are vegetarian and they dont drink.
So Kondorong can you expand on and explain your posting.
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 29 Aug 2008 : 01:26:11
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Originally posted by MADIBA
Konds,
I didn’t know that turbans are security threats too.
Anyway, the issue of short trousers is slightly exaggerated. I stand to be corrected, but the reason advanced for such a short-legged trouser is to avoid soiling it when walking, and later on praying in the same trousers. I think if the trousers were not over-sized, it would be difficult for an adult to soil them by walking them thru dirt. And why does it have to be sown the Pakistani/Afghani way? Cultural influence.
The lack of turban doesn’t make one less Muslim. It’s nice to have. It’s a mode of dress like any other. African elders, Muslims and traditionalist have been wearing hats anyway.
Why do pilgrims love dressing Arab-style when they return from Mecca? I think our own traditional dress would suffice. There are people from the old school that would tell you that it is Muslim dress. It is not. This is because the Syrian, Jordanian Christians do wear them as well as their Muslim brethren. When I first visited the Arab world, when its Jumaah prayers, I saw people dress in various dresses, from western to their own. I saw Imams lead prayers in suits and not Kaftan. I was awed. Another difference was immediately after salaam, people pick up their things and went their own ways. In The Gambia, most often people hang around for other prayers. It is said that the verses in the noble Quran, urge Muslims to leave whatever they were doing and attend the Friday prayers, but once its over, they are ordered to go and get on with their business.
Turbans are certainly not. I was just emphasising the impact of DAWAH. The thing is hats are not new, but when we stop using our own for the 10 meter long cloths wound around our heads, says something.
You are right it does not make any one less of a Muslim. You are also right obout the reason for the short-trout like pants in relation to cleanliness.
I was just making a comment in passing. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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mbay
Germany
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Posted - 29 Aug 2008 : 12:06:51
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I personal don’t have problems with most of their points; in fact i even supported most part of their arguments.
At the same i respect our traditions/culture proudly, which has so many ways to combine it with Islam, But i think also we as Muslim should avoid some mistakes and try to know the boarder.
this new phrase of Islam is actual not news it just appear so, because, most of the ideas are young and are from outside our society, the society that elders have the said and that is respectly right, but is known to the Islam that if is about Dinah, it should not have a boundary, so far your knowledge can afford it you can do it, in fact you must even do it.
I makes an adan at 1 time when i was young, coming from Serra Leon with few knowing about our culture. But never tried it again, I was being slamming from all the corners. “They have a man to this job”
Maybe think will change one day .We can recall about some Elders, as they were have it difficulty to send their kids to schools in the early yrs.
They did not fear about the new kind wave but maybe coming of new religions /culture which could incorporate with our society.
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mansasulu
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Posted - 04 Sep 2008 : 16:17:23
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| Thats clearly a possibility Kay. There are people who always seem to take things a bit farther than necessary. I think if such people start to grow into numbers and into groups, then there should be a cause for concern. |
"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)
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