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Santanfara



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Posted - 08 Jul 2008 :  01:03:42  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
The Difference
What is the difference?
Why the difference
Who cause the difference?
I don’t know and you don’t know either
The difference
It’s everywhere
In the streets and the work places
In the shops and homes
The difference
In the speech and talks
In the looks and moves
In the manners and thoughts
The difference
In the attitude and outlook in life
In the educations and aspirations
In sensuality and feelings
Why can’t we behave the same?
Every day young people kill, why? I think the difference
Young people go to prison, why? the difference
Why the gangs, because of the difference, think about it
ARE YOU DIFFERENT?

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

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MeMe



United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Jul 2008 :  11:21:50  Show Profile Send MeMe a Private Message
A nice take on how close-minded we humans can be! You had me with this poem until I came to the "In the attitude and outlook in life, In the educations and aspirations, In sensuality and feelings, Why can’t we behave the same?"

I'd rather keep the diversity alive and celebrate difference! How boring would it be if everyone had exactly the same thoughts, feelings, etc? But that's just my view, obviously

It is better to die standing than to live on your knees - Ernesto Guevara de la Serna
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Santanfara



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Posted - 08 Jul 2008 :  17:49:34  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
you are right meme.we can never be the same. i was looking at issues mainly from angle of the state of affairs in great britain. the youth killings and stabbings. if youths can behave normal and respectful, the crimes will never happen. the rejoinder to this poem may raise some controverse, so let me get it over with. it will be interesting to know how you interpret that one.

WHO IS THAT MAN MUM?
By Suntou Touray
This poem is dedicated to all children living away from their fathers due to divorce or separation. The children usually bear the brunt of the sad situation, some thing not of their making

The man we never talk about
His face is not familiar
His name is never mentioned
His voice, I don’t recognized
His looks a far away figure
The forgotten man

Who is that man mum?

What does he do?
Why is he never talked about?
What wrong must he has done?
I asked because I want know

Son!
Am sad .I feel betrayed. All the things I did for you, is that the way you wish to repay me?

Mum you are the best. My number one natural love. Without you am doomed.
But mum, with all the things you did for me, still I feel empty without a father figure
I want a Daddy. Is that a crime mum?
Mum sorry for asking, but this once tell me who that man is

Son, now that you want know, listen carefully. I speak but once about that man
He is no good, bad, evil, he broke my heart! He betrayed us. Don’t you realize son?
The only good he ever did was join make you. That is it. Listen to me, forget about that man.

Thanks mum, I hear you.
What you said is your version, now I even want to see that man more.
I want to ask him, why he left us?
Truth is about two sides

Think about what a dad can do with his son.
The football game, the ride in the park, the fishing trips,
The stern warnings, the fatherly figure, the fear of erring
Mum a daddy to me will make me grow up to be a man, full love and respect.
If daddy is faulty, forgive, for me. Mum.
Let me make up with my blood. Wherever he is, show me.
Then son that is his address. Find him. I gave you my blessing.








Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com

Edited by - Santanfara on 08 Jul 2008 17:52:58
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MeMe



United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Jul 2008 :  11:31:31  Show Profile Send MeMe a Private Message
Hmmmmm .... all good and well but what if the 'father' doesn't want to know the son which would make for an especially painful experience for the child .... things aren't often so black and white, there's lots and lots and lots of grey areas when it comes to relationships!

It is better to die standing than to live on your knees - Ernesto Guevara de la Serna
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Santanfara



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Posted - 10 Jul 2008 :  11:05:57  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by MeMe

Hmmmmm .... all good and well but what if the 'father' doesn't want to know the son which would make for an especially painful experience for the child .... things aren't often so black and white, there's lots and lots and lots of grey areas when it comes to relationships!


you are right meme. but also when one analyse the situation carefully, you will see clearly fathers more than anyone being denied access to their children. the fathers for justice folks is a testimony to that. i believe that every children have the right to know who their father is no mater how bad his is. the father should be made to play partin his child's welfare.

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com
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inez



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Posted - 11 Jul 2008 :  10:13:44  Show Profile Send inez a Private Message
How many procent of the fathers "has no access" to their children? How many procent of the fathers let their kids wait until one hour before he is supposed to meet them (or 2 hours after), perhaps give the mother a call and say, can´t meet them now since I have to work some extra, or will be travelling for 2 months, or have some cold, or need to sleep, need to go for a party... this happens time after time in many families, kids get dissapointed and who will be the one explaining to them and comforting them when they cry? Do you have some understanding for these mothers if they after several years of dissapointmens tell the father to stay away? Or the fathers who never stick to the dates that they have agreed on but just show up late at night when kids are sleeping, or pick them up one day when kids are to do something else that has been planned for ever. I can tell you that in this country fathers only have rights but no duties when it comes to spending time with their children. That is the answer mothers get when they talk to authorieties about their childrens needs of the father.
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dbaldeh

USA
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Posted - 12 Jul 2008 :  09:34:33  Show Profile  Visit dbaldeh's Homepage Send dbaldeh a Private Message
As Obama said "Being a man is more than fathering a child" Most men who are kept out of their children's lives is their own making. The Egos, selfishness and just outright carelessness leads to such irresponsibility.

No one can make me walk away from my kids, Only me can keep myself from my kids. Most of the choices is from the men who think the world should revolve around us.

I wish Suntou's poem was tailored more towards the poor women and their kids who are often the victims of a heartless father. Moms don't walk out of their kid's lives, so why we the men keep walking away from our own blood?

The women and the kids are the victims and the men are the cause. Off course there are exceptions as some men may be victims but by and large we are the culprits because of our ego.

Just my take...

Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
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Santanfara



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Posted - 12 Jul 2008 :  18:18:03  Show Profile  Visit Santanfara's Homepage Send Santanfara a Private Message
inez, and dbaldeh, i apprecaite your points. in as much as the men are to be blame for being excluded from their kid's life, some times this things happen due to bad decision. mothers should be willing to forgive and give a second chance to fathers who wish to reconcile with their children. this is my observations. yes, many fathers bring the situation to themself but we have to understand that some people are not good when under pressure.
the laws favour the mums in many western countries. this put men at a disadvantage in marrital disputes. children are suppose to be looked after by both parents. i hope sister meme agree with my points.. yes, one can commend the immense task under taken by mums, but here i narrow down the problem to single mums barring their ex's from playing a part in their children's life.
the second case is when children genuinely wish to know their fathers and the mums try to stop them, this is wrong.

Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran

www.suntoumana.blogspot.com
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