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Janko
Gambia
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 Posted - 23 Jul 2008 : 14:42:43
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Thanks njucks,
for the article link which confirms the fact that being critical of the West is not equal to hating the West, as many insinuated.
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Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy |
Edited by - Janko on 23 Jul 2008 18:17:03 |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jul 2008 : 17:37:15
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Its outrageous for any blame-game not to condemn Mugabe government campaign of terror and lawless Zimbabwe during 2nd round of Presidential elections, having lost the 1st against all odds. Why can't Africa encourage decent politics and sound politicians to solve Africa's problems f poverty, abuse of power, corruption, tribalism, cowardice and all its economic & political crises
Role of Police and military include law enforcement, impartiality, professionalism, maitain justice, peace & stability.
This latest Presidential elections lacks credibility and was stolen by Mugabe through camaign of terror & cheat
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toubab1020
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Posted - 23 Jul 2008 : 17:48:48
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| You write the truth KOBO,I shall be interested in postings of those who disagree with the truth as you have posted it. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jul 2008 : 18:04:14
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Thanks toubab 1020! Hail Morgan Tsvangirai & Movement for Democratic Change that risks their lives, with all sacrfices, torture & deaths to bring down Mugabe regime!
Down is Mugabe going and other despots to follow! "Its never late than never!"
Latest from related bantaba topic; Zimbawe: A promising picture, but how real is it?? under http://www.gambia.dk/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6390 |
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 23 Jul 2008 : 18:43:53
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Originally posted by toubab1020
You write the truth KOBO,I shall be interested in postings of those who disagree with the truth as you have posted it.
i'm glad you have found your sense of humour.
So now it upto Toubabs to decide/determine/judge what is the TRUTH in this Bantaba.
got your tin-hat on? |
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Janko
Gambia
1267 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jul 2008 : 19:00:19
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The only truth about the truth is; the Truth is imposed by Power & Interest and it’s not objective or given by GOD
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Clean your house before pointing a finger ... Never be moved by delirious Well-wishers in their ecstasy |
Edited by - Janko on 23 Jul 2008 19:07:08 |
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toubab1020
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Posted - 23 Jul 2008 : 21:18:40
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[quote]Originally posted by Janko
The only truth about the truth is; the Truth is imposed by Power & Interest and it’s not objective or given by GOD
The Truth is the truth and inane remarks implying that there is more than one truth should be totally ignored, there is of course no difference in the truth weather it be from white men black men Muslim or Christian or anyone else. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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toubab1020
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Posted - 23 Jul 2008 : 21:20:35
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Originally posted by njucks
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Originally posted by toubab1020
You write the truth KOBO,I shall be interested in postings of those who disagree with the truth as you have posted it.
i'm glad you have found your sense of humour.
So now it upto Toubabs to decide/determine/judge what is the TRUTH in this Bantaba.
got your tin-hat on?
No sense of humour here or tin hat required Truth is truth no disputes at all. |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jul 2008 : 17:25:06
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Originally posted by Janko
The only truth about the truth is; the Truth is imposed by Power & Interest and it’s not objective or given by GOD
Please clarify, apply those statements in more sensible manner for assessment and condemnation of Mugabe government's conduct of Presidential run-off. To do JUSTICE AND APPRAISAL OF CONDUCT OF THE ELECTIONS DOES IT MET ANY OF THEM IMPOSED AS:-
i) "Power & interest!" or
ii)"Objective!" or
iii) "God given!"
Am a bit confused about the FACTS; to appreciate any kind of TRUTH that justify accepting or endorsing Mugabe as LEGITIMATE PRESIDENT OF ZIMBABWE effective 2008 Zimababwe's Presidential elections
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toubab1020
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Posted - 24 Jul 2008 : 17:37:19
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| Kobo I don't want to go off a a tangent here, surley the truth is fact and nothing else,or do you see things differently ? |
"Simple is good" & I strongly dislike politics. You cannot defend the indefensible.
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Janko
Gambia
1267 Posts |
Posted - 24 Jul 2008 : 17:39:03
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Originally posted by kobo
Am a bit confused about the FACTS; to appreciate any kind of TRUTH that justify accepting or endorsing Mugabe as LEGITIMATE PRESIDENT OF ZIMBABWE effective 2008 Zimababwe's Presidential elections
Thats right, you seem to miss the point…. “Look before you lip”
Read my previous posts on this topic only then would you have a chance to understand my meaning.
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njucks
Gambia
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Posted - 25 Jul 2008 : 14:22:18
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here is an article from the Herald Tribune that i think puts all our different positions: lurker, myself, janko, BornAfrican etc into one text. Maybe the bantaba has a wide readership .
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/07/25/africa/letter.php?page=1
i think its a good article/balanced as well |
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kobo
United Kingdom
7765 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2008 : 16:10:54
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Thanks Njucks for that link! Thats DIPLOMACY AT ITS BEST as one the solution to that impasse and inorder to sort out a tragedic presidential elections for Zimbabwe & Africa.
If you lack legitimacy to rule a very strong impartial army has military role to intervene for stability, law enforcement, defend constitution, protect rights, freedom & citizenship.
Lies & cheating have been exposed TRUTH and justice prevail ultimately; and diplomatic process in motion for safe exit of our old Pa!
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mbay
Germany
1007 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jul 2008 : 16:17:32
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"I am certainly not an advocate for frequent and untried changes in laws and constitutions. I think moderate imperfections had better be borne with; because, when once known, we accommodate ourselves to them, and find practical means of correcting their ill effects. But I know also, that laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths disclosed, and manners and opinions change with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also, and keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the same coat which fitted him when a boy, as civilized society to remain ever under the
regimen of their barbarous ancestors."
T. Jefferson, from 1810
This echo and others still didn't comes to Africa! 
We ran, until we were barefoot and cried until we were blinded but what we wished for ourselves will not be a assign.
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kobo
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