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kayjatta
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 Posted - 09 Apr 2008 : 12:05:20
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Lurker, are the "chickens coming home to roost" in China? The protests over the Olympic Torch (against China's human rights record) is something to laugh about. It is just cracking me up...
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lurker
509 Posts |
Posted - 09 Apr 2008 : 12:26:39
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kay, do you think these olympics will
a) happen
b) be interrupted
c) run smoothly? |
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kayjatta
2978 Posts |
Posted - 09 Apr 2008 : 12:30:57
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| I do not think its gonna run smoothly, that is out of it. Remotely, it may not even happen at all.... |
Edited by - kayjatta on 09 Apr 2008 12:31:27 |
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Momodou
Denmark
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Posted - 10 Apr 2008 : 21:53:59
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I think most countries will choose not to boycott because of their economic interest in the China.
The following was recently published in the Copenhagen post with regards to Denmark contemplating whether to boycott.
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Denmark on fence over Olympic boycott
By The Copenhagen Post
Published 07.04.08 00:00
The public is split over whether Denmark should boycott the Olympic Games in China and the culture minister's consideration of the possibility is forcing the government's hand on the issue
It is apparently still up in the air whether or not Denmark will end up boycotting the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing, with the culture minister now stating publicly he has not yet made up his mind about participating in the games' opening ceremonies.
Among Danes, a new Gallup poll shows that 50 percent believe a boycott is appropriate, while 39 percent are against an embargo, with 11 percent undecided. But the government is still officially supporting Denmark's participation in the games.
Brian Mikkelsen, the culture minister, made the dilemma official this week by placing conditions on his participation in the games' opening ceremonies. Mikkelsen said he would keep an eye on developments in Tibet and how the Chinese government dealt with protests before making his final decision on whether to attend.
Pundits have also suggested that if Mikkelsen chooses to stay home, then so would Crown Prince Frederik.
The prime minister, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, has not supported a boycott, saying that politics and sports should not be intermingled. But Mikkelsen's comments are much in line with that of high-ranking politicians from other European countries, including Scandinavian colleagues Sweden and Norway, and some parliament members believe the government may have a hard time defending Denmark's participation.
'Officially, Denmark should not back the games,' Pernille Frahm, PM for the Socialist People's Party (SF), told Berlingske Tidende newspaper. 'Nor should we take part in the opening ceremonies in order to emphasise that China's human rights efforts are going in the wrong direction.'
But the Social Democrats believe a boycott of the Olympic Games would be the wrong move.
'A boycott would only be a meaningless demonstration that could possibly have the exact opposite effect of what one wishes,' said Social Democratic MP Mogens Jensen.
SF and the Danish People's Party (DF) are the only two parties that have publicly supported an Olympic boycott. Morten Messerschmidt, DF parliament member, said Denmark could officially boycott the games but still allow its athletes to participate.
'Many of the European Union's politicians and nobility are staying away from the games - Angela Merkel, EU Parliament president Hans-Gert Pöttering, Prince Charles and others,' he said.
'If this exodus continues then it would only be a very close-knit group standing shoulder to shoulder with the Chinese government - one that would send the wrong signal. But the athletes have trained a long time for these games and we should let them do what they're best at doing, letting us take care of the political side of the issue,' said Messerschmidt.
Presidents and prime ministers from Germany, France, the Czech Republic, Poland, Norway and Sweden have all refused to attend the games' opening ceremonies, although some of the countries' sports and culture ministers may attend.
Francois Godement, member of think tank the European Council on Foreign Relations, said European countries' disagreement on the Olympic issue could lead to a wider political split within the union.
'Right now there are three European powers (France, Germany and the UK) eyeballing one another, and one could well fear that the Olympic Games in China results in a split within the EU over important future foreign policy issues,' said Godement. (RC) |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 10 Apr 2008 : 23:51:44
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But i think what we all are missing in this story is the history of the Olympic Torch. It was introduced by a dictator perhaps worst than China and yet we accepted it.
The torch's history itself should have been bigger controversy than the human right issue in Tibet. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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MeMe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 Apr 2008 : 12:02:25
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quote:
Originally posted by kondorong
But i think what we all are missing in this story is the history of the Olympic Torch. It was introduced by a dictator perhaps worst than China and yet we accepted it.
The torch's history itself should have been bigger controversy than the human right issue in Tibet.
OK - I'll fall for this one .... do tell who the ancient Greek dictator was????? |
It is better to die standing than to live on your knees - Ernesto Guevara de la Serna |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 11 Apr 2008 : 14:13:28
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hello politicians, what did you think was going to happen when China was awarded the games.
The internet in China is heavily censored, travel for native chineese will be controlled, visitors will need permits, visas etc to travel across country, You can visit the country as part of an oganised group, but individuality is not promoted.
The church there is organised and recognised, but others are not.
Does anyone know how the muslim/jewish religions will be catered for.
CHINA IS A COMMUNIST COUNTRY, did people forget that,
THE GAMES WILL GO ON, BUT LET US SEE WHO BOYCOTTS THE GAMES. |
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