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Santanfara
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 Posted - 10 Mar 2008 : 23:36:35
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who knows what sherief sm dibba meant when he made that imfamous comment? soso la so,soo ,mendabijeh so, menda tije so. . lalo keba use to praise sherief as well by refering to him as ''dibba ooh waliman''.
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Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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Edited by - Santanfara on 10 Mar 2008 23:38:05 |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 12 Mar 2008 : 19:39:45
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I will reply to this topic later today. I am just too tied up.
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“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 13 Mar 2008 : 00:49:10
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| take your time. imbe ehbatula. nyin kuyo kunmayatale. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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Santanfara
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Posted - 15 Mar 2008 : 18:52:06
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| alpha kondo, i am eagerly awaiting your input. please find time. thanks |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 18 Mar 2008 : 01:04:53
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SO SO LA SO, SO
MENG DAA BI JAY SO
MENG DAA TI JAY SO
KAA BAY BUNTANG SO
This is a Mandinka game played mainly by boys. Its played using a ball which one member holds and after saying the above verses, he will hit someone with the ball whether you want to play or not, you will be hit. So you either stay away or join but there are no spectators in this game. Evereyone is a player.
From the above scenario, its safe to conclude that Sheriff may have two things in mind:
1. That we are all players in the system and all should be accorded an opportunity to serve.
2. That, based on the above, if any thing befalls us, it affect all of us. Much like Bob Marley's song
".. when the rainfalls, it does not fall on one man's house.... who the cap fits, let him wear it"
The SOS SO LASO came in 1994 but unfortunately, it not only took away jawara, but marked the beginning of the end of NCP.
Could it be that sheriff was forewarning us about an impending political change bigger than all the players in the Gambia. He was known to have said that the 1992 electon was his last election contest with Jawara. People thought he was going to resign. He never resigned.
His words came to pass. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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Santanfara
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Posted - 18 Mar 2008 : 14:41:45
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heninbara bakaay kondorong. alama alla yejo .that explanation is what many attributed to sherief dibba's comment. he may be a fasle prophet, don't you think so? |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
www.suntoumana.blogspot.com |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 18 Mar 2008 : 18:42:06
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You never know. There was something mysterious about the man. To survive for so long and agaisnt very strong forces like the chiefs( he removed many in one day), is testimony to a man born to survive. Like him or hate him, he was a survivor against all the odds.
It was said that Tamba told him in Mandinka " IBEH SISI LA, BARI ITEH MALA LA". It means you will have fame but not substantive authority.
There is food for thought in the above statement. However, if tamba were alive, he would perhaps be disappointed that Sherrif held the third position in the nation(Speaker of the House.)
It should also be of interest to students of Gambian history, that the NCP logo, which was a ship, eventuallly became the USS Lamore County, that whisked Jawara from the shores of Banjul and never to return as President. Could Sheriff be telling us what was to come years before any one had any wild dream of a Gambia without Jawara.
May be, may be, the man was a false prophet. I have taken it a personl duty to study the life of Sheriff and attended many of his meetings.
"WAALIMANG. BANKU KANTALA NING MANSA TEH KILING TI" |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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Santanfara
3460 Posts |
Posted - 19 Mar 2008 : 10:27:56
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| Interesting kondo, yes, his banku kantala was jawara. sherief was a brilliant politician who can talk. he was able to move many of his supporteers. the disappointment came when he accept a post from yahya. that is the lowest point in his career. i respected him untill that time. the sosola so is a prophetic comment. we use to play the game in darsilame in the early 80's. |
Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22
"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the difference of your languages and colours. verily, in that are indeed signs for men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran
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kayjatta
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Posted - 19 Mar 2008 : 11:35:08
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Thanks my teacher, Kondorong for your authoritative historical analysis of S.M.Dibba's famous catch phrase, "soso la so". I am a little bit uneasy about the dose of mysticism you seem to have injected in Mr. Dibba. In hindsight it might be easy to find meaning and relationship in things and events that in fact are meaningless and unrelated. Therefore, Mr. Dibba's claim that 1992 will be his last contest with Jawara (as well as the ship as NCP logo/symbol) may be and with most likelihood unconnected with the 1994 military coup. There is no doubt that Mr. Dibba was and continues to be a great Gambian, but S.M.Dibba's political carreer is filled with several disasterous judgments that it may appear ridiculous to associate prophethood (even if qualified with falsehood) to him, lest we fall folly of the likes of E.K. Sarr, Saja Taal, and others before and after them.
PDOIS has done a lot to demystify politics for us, but it looks like mysticism is very much Gambian... |
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mansasulu
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Posted - 19 Mar 2008 : 16:21:19
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| Once again Thanks, Koto Kondorong for your insight and knowledge on contemporary and current affairs about the Gambia. I think Tamba was right to a greater extend that you credit him on his prognosis of S.M. Dibba legacy if all is said. I doubt being name as Speaker of the National Assembly presents much of the "flame" Tamba was alluding to. If we look at those famous quotes in context we will perhaps see what Tamba actually meant. I believe Tamba had more power at the height of his reign in Baddibu than S.M. at any point during his Speakership or political life including when he was VP. My point is he was never top. If anything, it was all smoke and no flame in my humble opinion! And I must admit, there are a few people whose postings I read in their entirety and yours is surely one of them. I think we are all blessed to learn from you. |
"...Verily, in the remembrance of Allâh do hearts find rest..." Sura Al-Rad (Chapter 13, Verse 28)
...Gambian by birth, Muslim by the grace of Allah... |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 19 Mar 2008 : 17:09:10
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Originally posted by kayjatta
Thanks my teacher, Kondorong for your authoritative historical analysis of S.M.Dibba's famous catch phrase, "soso la so". I am a little bit uneasy about the dose of mysticism you seem to have injected in Mr. Dibba. In hindsight it might be easy to find meaning and relationship in things and events that in fact are meaningless and unrelated. Therefore, Mr. Dibba's claim that 1992 will be his last contest with Jawara (as well as the ship as NCP logo/symbol) may be and with most likelihood unconnected with the 1994 military coup. There is no doubt that Mr. Dibba was and continues to be a great Gambian, but S.M.Dibba's political carreer is filled with several disasterous judgments that it may appear ridiculous to associate prophethood (even if qualified with falsehood) to him, lest we fall folly of the likes of E.K. Sarr, Saja Taal, and others before and after them.
PDOIS has done a lot to demystify politics for us, but it looks like mysticism is very much Gambian...
Kay
I think you are taking the false prophet thing very seriously. I did not raise it. I was only making reference to Santafara's question if Sheriff was not a false prophet. I replied "May be, May be.." to serve as an emphasis.
I was in the House pf Parliament when E.K Sarr made those blasphemous statements about Jawara equating him with the deliverance of the Jewish people by Moses during the Exodus from Egypt. I will never bring my self any where near. Ofcourse E.K. Sarr had more fanatics before him. The then Principal of Armitage in 1965, who was a nominated MP, made similar remarks about Jawara. History repeats itself but with a difference.
Of course Sheriff has a lot of controversies around him. Remember he was the youngest member of the Cabinet, younger than M.C. Cham.
Clearly sheriff must have studied the political climate in the Gambia to conclude that the 1992 election was his last with jawara. He made these statements at a Bundung rally in the grounds of the Primary School. I happen to be there. Some people even begged not to resign.
Its more like the story of Nostradamus who "saw the future" but which today is also a source of controversy. I think we can safely say his predictions came to pass. Whether he is a false prophet or not matters less.
Being able to prepare for the unexpected is what differentiates a good manager/leader from the crowd.
I will tell you a story about a commonwealth conference i attended in Harare at a five star hotel. Suddenly the lights went off in the tents organized for an evening entertainment. Out of the blue, the organizer, who was a senior member of the Commonwealth team took out a torch to the amazement of all who were present. He then told us all that our ability to deal with the unexpected is what will define our level of progress.
In management school this is called "Management of Change". Its different from "Management for Change" in which case one is in control of events.
It reminds me of S.S Diouf, a math teacher at Armitage who, according to legend, has never been late for classes through out and in the five years i was there, he was absent only once. On one occasion, whilst teaching tangents, his finger accidentally flipped his reading glasses and it fell and broke.
The whole class was dead silent because now they had an opportunity to prove that he will be caught unawares. Mr Diouf opened his bag and out came another reading glass. The whole class went up in cheers and for 15 minutes, the lesson could not proceed.
Another legend about this man was when he retired, he went to the Accountant General's office to claim his W.O.P.S. He was told that copies of pay slips could not be found to establish how much he is owed. To their surprised, this man pull out of his bag, copies of all pay slips he had ever had during his public career and it was from his own copies that he was paid. A career spanning more than 30 years. I can safely say, he is the only retired public official who got all his money back. The rest were a hit and miss affair.
Whether sherrif was a false prophet matters less. His ability to see what many could not see is a credit that should go to him. Hate him or like him.
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kayjatta
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Posted - 20 Mar 2008 : 09:23:34
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| Thank you. |
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