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salimina

253 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2006 :  10:26:25  Show Profile Send salimina a Private Message
Am thinking of the paradox that Africa is the first habitat of mankind. Then if africa was the birthplace of Adam,then the garden of Eden today is in serious disrepair. What went wrong after all the efforts?

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taalibeh

Gambia
336 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2006 :  14:58:31  Show Profile Send taalibeh a Private Message
Salimina, I wish we could come with a genuine answer to your question and an appropriate solution. I think our problem is resident in every african, and we must start by looking internally first. We must start by divesting ourselves of arrogance, disrespect for human rights and the rule of law and prepare ourselves towards nation building. We must put our national interest first and make it to be paramount over individual interest.

No doubt that africa has got be interlectual and human resources but the will and status quo is lacking. We must be prepared to see beyond the boundries of tribal line and sail towards a common goal - NATION BUILDING.

Taalibeh

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salimina

253 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2006 :  15:29:48  Show Profile Send salimina a Private Message
Talibeh,
In addition, i think to begin with, Africa has two permanent ratio-cultural complexes, the Arab North and Black south; three religious systems, african traditional religion, christianity and islam; four dominant international languages, french, english, portuguese and arabic. It also has six Hegemonic systems competing for either influence or profit within Africa( western europe, north america,the soviet bloc, china, india and japan) and she also has six political traditions partly fed by those six hegemonic systems and partly in opposition to those systems( liberal capitalism,socialism,nationalism,conservative traditionalism, militarism and pan africanism).

Because of these fragmentations,i think it becomes difficult, very difficult indeed to move from our pre-ancient economic mode.

Thanks.

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taalibeh

Gambia
336 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2006 :  15:45:34  Show Profile Send taalibeh a Private Message
True. But all these characteristic are more or less present in other continents yet they are moving forward with their development agenders. Why are we the poorest continent in the world? We are not the poorest in terrms of natural resources. We are poor in vision and philosophy, poor in self criticism and very rich in blaming others for our predicament.

We must not let our background difference to divide us further, that will be regretable. There must be a solution to our problems and our elected leaders must find it. That is why they are there.

Taalibeh
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salimina

253 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2006 :  16:12:07  Show Profile Send salimina a Private Message
Thanks taalibah, but fragmentation in other parts of the world are smaller than that of ours.I agree with you that we need visionaries and to be frank in doing whatever we are doing.

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taalibeh

Gambia
336 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2006 :  16:25:17  Show Profile Send taalibeh a Private Message
Oh yes Salimina! You remember Europe has suffered the biggest and bloodiest war in human history but have found a common ground to move on. We can do the same thing. But first there should be the political will and sophistication to seriously kick start a continent wide dialoge.

I have no doubt that Africa can make it. We have the better of almost everything such as the weather, wild life etc.

Taalibeh

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salimina

253 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2006 :  16:42:43  Show Profile Send salimina a Private Message
No one can dispute that Taalibeh, another problem area i think is yes we do have abundant natural resources but we lack technology to make use of our infinite resources. We always depends on others to process and as you can understand profits in process materials far outweight it in its raw form.That is real disadvantage.


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taalibeh

Gambia
336 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2006 :  17:11:26  Show Profile Send taalibeh a Private Message
Development could be achieved through interdependancy. We depend on each other to learn from one another.

Investment in the technology sector could also bring us development. Look at Ghana'a post independent. Nkruma was able to embark upon a masive project of economic reform which could have not only helped Ghana but africa as a whole if he was able to carry it through.

We must find ways of trying to neutralise the influencial forces you mentioned above that are affecting the direction of our continent. We must act in the common interest of our children and not let ourselves to be overcome by our individual selfishness.

Taalibeh
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salimina

253 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2006 :  17:43:47  Show Profile Send salimina a Private Message
A related paradox is per head of each groups population( in a given country), the richest inhabitants are non-africans. The poorest in per capita terms are indegenious africans themselves. Why this is so? Is it that we are not productive? Wastage?

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salimina

253 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2006 :  19:49:13  Show Profile Send salimina a Private Message
How can we move from this situation?

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Janyanfara



Tanzania
1350 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2006 :  22:50:01  Show Profile Send Janyanfara a Private Message
Hi salimina sheriffo and His talibe,
You conversations are interesting.My contribution to yours would be the only way forward 4 Africa is a very definate presidential term limit.So that if one is bad,maybe the next might be better.Please if you try my resent forum..African Union, a Union of Despots then you will see the reason for Africa's continious failure.
Thank you two,
Mankajang Janyanfara
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kondorong



Gambia
4380 Posts

Posted - 28 Mar 2006 :  23:11:04  Show Profile Send kondorong a Private Message
We need to be hopeful these days. Africa is very complex and unique continent in a variety of ways. May be because we are the cradle of civilisation, we are built complex to give birth to the world.

But it looks like this is working against us. Creativity is a major problem for us and having a unified base seems beyond our reach. We are more concerened about tribe or some devisive issues that only keeps us apart.

Europe had to battle this and one language dominated the rest and hence tribal or thnic identities disappeared to a large extent. There are few scottish who speak the language and so are the Welsh.

I believe there is a way. We need committed leaders but it looks like our greatest threat is the educated few. Atleast they are the ones thay have squandered our resources.

“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.”
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salimina

253 Posts

Posted - 30 Mar 2006 :  17:26:02  Show Profile Send salimina a Private Message
In addition, i think the central question of our time is why with all the efforts of the last 40 years, 65-70 percent of our people are below the poverty line? Is there any hope?

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Sister Omega



United Kingdom
2085 Posts

Posted - 30 Mar 2006 :  18:19:23  Show Profile  Visit Sister Omega's Homepage Send Sister Omega a Private Message
Salimina I would say there is always hope what we as a people need to do is stop giving away our power, and start to look with us both in Africa and the Diaspora for solutions to the situation we find ourselves in. Divide and rule or fragmentation policies can only work when people are too busy looking out for others to give them solutions. We need to have policies which are for the people and by the people. We need to learn to listen to the poor and needy to enable us to draw up and implement policies that are going to address the problems of the majority and not the minority rich.

Again we see as time goes full circle that it is the international class, which cuts the cream of the crop for the rich who monopolise our resources and perpetuate the expliotation of the majority of the world who are poor.

I think Africans problem the world over is mental slavery being entrapped in ignorance of self and ignorance of the world. Those who will prosper, not just the material plane but also in the emotional and spiritual planes are those who can free their minds of the illusions spun to keep our race thinking of non-Africans as being our Gods.

We really need to start healing ourselves and remembering that we are the sons and daughters of the architects of great civilisations and retrace some of our steps to begin to rebuild and improve on those great systems of goverance, civility, science technology, arts etc.

Peace

Sister Omega


Peace
Sister Omega

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Janyanfara



Tanzania
1350 Posts

Posted - 30 Mar 2006 :  23:58:26  Show Profile Send Janyanfara a Private Message
Yes there is much hope my dear brothers and sisters.Europe also went through what we are now going through so don't panic we will get there.
Our modalities and paradoxical logistics are just being frusterated by our very entrusted leaders but we will amd shall yet to a stage when every child or gran child of Africa will stand shoulder high with pride.NO WARS,AIDS,TRIBALISM(for we will mixed up so much there will be no tribalism),corruption, and there will be A PRESIDENTIAL TERM LIMIT THROUGH OUT aFRICA WITH peace and love for all.
Mankajang Janyanfara
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taalibeh

Gambia
336 Posts

Posted - 31 Mar 2006 :  01:17:14  Show Profile Send taalibeh a Private Message
I am very hopeful and will always be. What catches my admirations most is the level of matured and collosally constructed arguements and exchanges on this bantaba. Everyone here is wholeheartedly accepting criticism and taking others opinions seriously which is conspicuously lacking in our present leaders.

If we can transform this in our leadership styles when our times come then we well be leaders that will listen and lead for the benefit our the masses. Keep it up guys and let us try to be frank with one other. We have created a virtual family and must translate this into reality. We are all one Gambia, the difference in our languages is NOTHING but a difference in the means of communications, simple.

I love you all and MAY ALLAH BLESS AND GUIDE YOU ALL ON THE RIGHT PATH.

Kons, Jans etc keep it up.

Taalibeh
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