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Ebra
Gambia
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 Posted - 05 Dec 2007 : 03:46:09
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I thought this is interesting for one to digest.
Winston Churchill is one of the most extraordinary leaders the tumultuous twentieth century produced. What was it that enabled him to see so clearly when all of those around him seemed to be so blind? What was it that enabled him to stand so steadfastly when those around him seemed to turn back in fear? What was it that enabled him to inspire whole nations to endurable and to achieve the unachievable when all those around him had already surrendered all hope" (Mansfield,1995).
....I often replay in my mind imaginary conversations with the great men and women of history....I find myself eventually winding around to the appropriate moment for asking, "What is it that made you great?" Echoing back in my imagination are answers far from those I would expect, for I dot not hear my companions reply "I was a great King," or "I was the unsurpassed genius of my age," or "I was a skillful leader in the decisive events of my day." Instead, I hear them answers with gentle determination, "I believe in certain eternal principles," or "I had, through suffering and difficulty, acquired a level of character that enabled me to shape my generation," or "I saw the problems of my day from a unique perspective which I knew could help solve them." It is greatness viewed in this light, imaginary or not, which is the only justification...for the study of Churchill's life (Mansfield, 1995, p. 2).
Winston Churchill: The Lessons of Leadership
(From Never Give In: The Extraordinary Character of Winston Churchill by Stephen Mansfield)
Leadership is the power to shape the future.
Bitterness erodes strong leadership: it anchors a leader to the past, distracting him from the promise of the future.
Biology need not be destiny.
A leader is often his own best teacher.
Overwhelming moral and physical courage is at the foundation of all great leadership.
Exceptional courage is born of a profound sense of destiny.
To offer a people hope is to acquire a position f leadership in their lives.
Religious faith elevates leaders by freeing them from the cult of the contemporary.
The quality of a leader is often reflected in the quality of his marriage.
Leadership is not a popularity contest: criticism is part of the job.
Leaders are forged as much by time in the wilderness as by time of popularity.
True leadership required hard work - there is no substitute.
The courage to look hard realities in the fact is essential to effective leadership.
A leader must see himself as the guardian of a heritage for future generations.
When a leader needs a break, a change is often as good as a rest.
Men who believe in eternal life seldom fear death in this life.
A sense of humor reflects a healthy grasp of the difference between what is and what ought to be.
A leader will only command the level of loyalty he is willing to give to others.
Great leaders apply the past to the present so as to shape the future.
Words are the arsenal of leadership.
Leaders can never afford to lose the beauty of life in the corrosive tedium of work.
A firm grasp on eternal realities enables a leader to stand apart from his age and show it the way.
The leader's task is to boldly confront the currents of change and harness its power for good.
Great heights are only reached by overcoming great obstacles.
According to Henry Kissinger, "Our age finds it difficult to come to grips with Churchill. The political leaders with whom we are familiar generally aspire to be superstars rather than heroes. This distinction is crucial. Superstars strive for approbation; heroes walk alone. Superstars crave consensus; heroes define themselves by the judgment of a future they see it as their task to bring about. Superstars seek success in a technique for eliciting support; heroes pursue success as the outgrowth of their inner lives. Winston Churchill was a hero."
The 20th century was a time of many "charismatic" leaders - some leaders who made sacrifices for the good of mankind and other leaders who sacrificed mankind for their [leader's] own good. In a totalitarian state, it is not so much the charisma of the leader that persuades the populace to follow him; rather the totalitarian leader leads through oppression and suppression. It seems to be much more difficult to be a leader in a democracy where the concepts of freedom, free-will, self-determination, and open debate are the rights of the people. In a totalitarian state, leaders cannot be challenged; in a democracy, leaders are openly and, at times, aggressively challenged. Although it is necessary for people to understand and analyze the conditions that allow the "charismatic" totalitarian leader to take control; it is even more important to understand and analyze the character and qualities of the "charismatic" leader who inspires followers and builds a consensus to lead a democracy.
Source: Mansfield, S. (1995). Never give in: The extraordinary character of Winston Churchill. Kansas City, MI: Cumberland House.
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Mr.Justice
Gambia
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Posted - 05 Dec 2007 : 14:22:32
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| Ebra "Winston Churchill is one of the most extraordinary leaders the tumultuous twentieth century produced" do you agree with this quote from(Mansfield,1995)?If you do then,i have the right to challenge it.Churchill was extraodinary in what sense?Defeating the Nazis?Yes i will agree on that.He defeated the Nazis in the interest of who?Well,i wont care if hitler had conqurered the world.Sound insane?Well no!We would have get the same type of brutal master, the same type of genocidal killer, the same type of brutal kidnapper.Infact,Hitler didnt do worst than the British.Didnt the British murdererd 115 million Africans and displace several million others during slavery?I mean 115 million,innocent African dead.Yes they did.Can you compare that to the overall people who died in ww2?No!According to the world war two dead figures is something like 50 million.What did Churchill did in India?The same brutality,that hitler did to the Jews.What was Churchill position on Non-Violent Ghandi?Is this not the same Churchill, who declared Ghandi a criminal?What was Churchill position on the British colonies?Well, i think it is very important to make research on that.I don`t know what kind of political world,do most of you lived.Most of you sound like political chumps.I don`t know, why most of you are so blind by this western created Sts, which are nothing but mass killers.What did churchill did in Kenya?Tell me.These western, so called heros are the same people who created the same mess we are in today in Africa,even in the Gambia.Oh yes-even in the Gambia.To prove my point:Dint the EU-give some millions of euros to our thug president?yes they did,in a form of grant-i think.Where will these Euros go?offcourse it will help to sustain our criminal president.Dint the swiss Govt accept billion of looted dollars from Abacha?Yes they did.It should be a disgrace, for you to even mention,an Internationally wanted war criminal, a brutal mass murderer like Henry Kissinger.Winston Churchill was a hero?Hero for who?Is this not the same Churchill, who kidnapp my grandfather and maybe,a father or uncle of someone you might know and send them to bleed in the south-pecific?Bleed for what?To sustain the criminal western colonisation, on Africa and other parts of Asia.If you will agree with that heriosm, then i believe-you can go ahead and give heriosm medal, to muderer Yahya jammeh.Yes, churchhill fought against Totalitarian state like Nazi-germany and her allies, but didnt that same Churchill maintain is criminal occupation of some parts of Africa?Churchill was nothing, but a criminal, in the eyes of the former colonies.You cant deny that. |
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Sibo
Denmark
231 Posts |
Posted - 05 Dec 2007 : 14:47:45
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well Mr. Justice, IŽll have to say that I am very impress about how much energy you spend on critizing every single little thing anyody has to say on the Bantabaa. Are you anti-west or something???
Another thing is that Bantabaa is a place for debate and not a place petronize or dog on other members. Lets keep the focus on the sujects and stop bashing each other. I have read you postings on other issues where you were, in my opinion a little too hard on other members. |
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serenata
Germany
1400 Posts |
Posted - 05 Dec 2007 : 15:21:01
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Mr.Justice, you are hard, but I like it that you always unmask any kind of propaganda blabla (Ebra, I don't mean you, but our western media, historians etc.). I think it is high time the West gets it that we have our propaganda too, not only so-called totalitarian systems like the Warshaw Pact nations, the Nazis, North Corea, China, Iran etc. And yes, Churchill did all those things you mentioned. I only object to your "Well,i wont care if hitler had conqurered the world". I am sure if Hitler really had conquered the world, you as a (probably) black person would never say such a thing...
I think it is ridiculous if racist nations point a finger at another, as the USA, France and England did in World War II. But though they might have been just 'useful *****s', I am glad they defeated the Nazis. |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 06 Dec 2007 : 10:56:49
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so Mr Justice, you talk about the past, did anyone learn from it, no way, look at Darfur, that is African against African, Arab against African in whose name is this being done. DO NOT BLAME THE WEST FOR DARFUR, IT STARTED SMALL AND HAS GOT BIGGER,
people say the west should do this and that regarding Darfur, and what are the African countries doing.
time to look inwards |
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Mr.Justice
Gambia
51 Posts |
Posted - 09 Dec 2007 : 21:26:40
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| Jambo, or leaves or whatever you prefer to be called.Well, i think you are so ingnorant of what is going on in Darfur.Yes you are.Can you tell me who is financing the war over there?Can you tell me who are the main beneficiary of the war in Darfur?Ofccourse the west.Please, make a research about the war in Darfur,before you open up your mouth again, and talk rubbish.Yes, i agree that, blacks are fighting blacks over there.Thats fact.But who is responsible?Offcourse the west is responsible.Can they stop the blood bath there?Yes!Will they stop it?No!The war in darfur have been there for the past decades.Infact it is the same criminality, that the west sponsored in S.leone.Yes they did.Di you watch the movie called "BLOOD DIAMOND"?Well, to solved the crisis in Darfur, we have to track down the external criminals, who are fuelling the war.The problem of Darfur is not an internal one.It is an internationally sponsored crimes,against the people of Sudan.Go and make the research, and come back.Sibo am not anti west or whatever.I speak the truth and if the truth condemns the west, then they stand condemn.Am not crying for a pie from the west-not at all.But the truth is there for everyone to see it.Serenta, i see no difference between Hitler and his criminal gangs, and the British and the American criminals gangs.The west was mad with Hitler because, he put pressure on them.Do the Americans or the British enter the war to stop the holocaust?No!They went in because England was threaten.Americans trade and have diplomatic contacts with Hitler, while the holocuast was going on.They knew it.The americans attended the olympics in germany under hitler.Serenta,so the bleeding of our people to stop hitler, worth it?Its was after Hitler Germany that the USA went into madness in Vietnam, South Korea, mass murdering more than 4 million people.It was after the second world war that France slaughtered more than 3 million Algerians, in their own country.So what is the difference? |
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turk
USA
3356 Posts |
Posted - 10 Dec 2007 : 05:55:43
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Mr Justice
I love your style. Telling the truth that hurts. Especially, china is getting fair oil deal with sudan and other african countries and yankees do not like that at all. There may be some objection about your raising harsh reality by some who like to seem as 'third world friendly people', they just do not want to see the truth. Because they are really shamed with their history. They may even try kicking you out from the forum.
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diaspora! Too many Chiefs and Very Few Indians.
Halifa Salah: PDOIS is however realistic. It is fully aware that the Gambian voters are yet to reach a level of political consciousness that they rely on to vote on the basis of Principles, policies and programmes and practices. |
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gambiabev
United Kingdom
3091 Posts |
Posted - 10 Dec 2007 : 08:00:26
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American history and English history are 2 different things.
I am surprised at people using the term third world countries. Africa, China etc are part of the DEVELOPING world. For western consumer society it is an advantage for other countries to develop as this creates new markets for products. This is what the capitalist system thrives on.
People alive now are NOT responsible for the HISTORY of the country they live in. There is no need to apologise, or feel shameful. There is need to learn from the past and make a better future.
I regret the death of anyone in any war. What ever side and whatever cause. It is all sad and meaningless.
People who were fighting in the 2nd world war thought it was a war to end all wars. Sadly this is not the case.
In 2008 lets give peace a chance: between individuals, families, communities and countries. |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 10 Dec 2007 : 10:22:53
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Mr Justice, Jambo is the name please explain this sentence
"Jambo, or leaves or whatever you prefer to be called", secondly, what I mentioned I stand by, Africa is letting Darfur happen, UN has supports, but this matter of DARFUR is the hands of the governments, they are taking payments, Darfur did not happen over night, did not the west predict it years ago. PLEASE DO NOT CALL ME IGNORANT. |
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Mr.Justice
Gambia
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Posted - 11 Dec 2007 : 13:53:53
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| Jambo,I will not apologise for calling you ignorant, as long as you are.I think you need serious research,to understand the crisis in Sudan.The west is responsible for the destruction of human life in Darfur.No the African Govts cant do anything about Darfur, as long as the west have their snotty noses in the problem.You talking about UN?UN is a criminal organisation,just like the IMF.These organisations are criminal set up, against the weak and poor.Where was UN, when the USA criminally went into Iraq?Where was UN, when US criminally bombed the defendless people of Somalia?You cant tell me US invasion of Iraq was right.It was criminal, and illegal.Gambiabev, i disgree with you.The west is responsible for our miseries in Africa.Yes they are.They should be held accountable for it.I have a reason for saying that.Well, as you know, we africans suffer one of world worst and most barbaric holocaust.Do you hear them speak about it?But they are trying to push the jewish holocuast on your throat everyday.Do you know after 62 years, the Germans are still paying the jews?Yes they are.And they have already paid 68billion dollars.But my question is-How many Germans who particpated in the holocuast crimes are alive today?Who are paying this reparation to the jews?Offcourse a generation of Germans, who were not even born when the holocaust happens, a generation of germans, who are innocent of the holocaust crimes.But they still have to pay. |
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kisley
United Kingdom
214 Posts |
Posted - 11 Dec 2007 : 14:50:29
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Originally posted by serenata
I think it is ridiculous if racist nations point a finger at another, as the USA, France and England did in World War II. But though they might have been just 'useful *****s', I am glad they defeated the Nazis.
Oh so are you saying that my grandfather who died fighting in the 2nd world was basically a "useful ****s" |
Edited by - kisley on 11 Dec 2007 15:15:37 |
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kisley
United Kingdom
214 Posts |
Posted - 11 Dec 2007 : 15:06:17
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Mr justice and turk sound very much alike, even their writing styles are very very similar ...wouldnt that be funny  if they were actually the same person LOL. They have even been having conversations with each other "bigging" each other up. |
Edited by - kisley on 11 Dec 2007 15:17:13 |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 11 Dec 2007 : 15:42:36
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mr justice, all your words are meaningless unless you include the african union, why do you never mention them, they are the gatekeepers to todays situation |
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jambo
3300 Posts |
Posted - 11 Dec 2007 : 15:43:39
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kisley, thank you for the wake up call, now i get it. HMMM, i smell a rat. TURK AND MR.JUSTICE the same person, i will go back and re-read certain postings.  |
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Mr.Justice
Gambia
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Posted - 11 Dec 2007 : 17:10:17
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Jambo,you talking about the African Union?What can they do?Nothing!Why?because there are uneccessary disputes between them.Jambo i dont blame you.You are victim of the western propaganda, which is capable of turning the victim into a criminal.Yes they are capable of that.They bombard us with stories,that the Iraqi freedom fighters are terrorist.But every person with his right mind knows that, these people are fighting for their human and natural rights.To be free, liberty and justice.Offcourse, the USA and their criminal allies are the criminals, rapist and invaders.Today, they are trying to paint Mugabe as a criminal and a dictator.When in real sense the people of Zimbabwe are victims of western torture and displacement and murder.I cherish south Africa, for standing on the side of the people of Zimbabwe.Oh yes i do.Blair was and still more criminal and genocidal than Mugabe.Blair is part of the US lead criminal thugs that are responsible for more than,1 million death iraqis.But today Blair and Bush, the 21st century greatest killers, war criminals, will try to point fingers to other people.The west will always try to see Africa divided,to satisfy their greedy souls.The west always forment violence, whereever they go.Yes its true.They have never create peace and harmony anywhere on earth.Jambo, am sure they teach you in school that Colombus discovered America and that he was a great man.Colombus was nothing but a mass murderer, a rapist and a kidnapper.Look at the DRC,there is death everywhere.The USA, a criminal country, headed by one of the most brutal mass murderer, a genocidal killer sustain a dictator there fo several years.They still got their snotty noses in the problem in Congo which is a human catastrophe just like Darfur.There are marcenaries killers in the Congo, who are paid by US tax dollars.You cant deny that.I even laugh about the portugal so called EU-AU summit.I dont know what the west can promise to Africa.They are now trying to teach us that, the chinese are bad.We have seen the 300 years of nightmares under the brutal occupation of the west.How can the criminal western regimes make us believe that the Chinese are bad.The other day i read, something on BBC:saying Africans new master is the Chinese.I will prefer a chinese master over an English brute.I will tell you something:I never try to be an imposter and never will be.Im not the turk.If you knew computers very well, you can try and track down our IPs, which will prove my point.We are different people.Mr. Justice is Mr Justice not any other person.
Jambo i sincerely urged you to read extensively,about the western politics of trickery and propaganda.You can read a book written by NOAM CHOMSKY called "Hegymony and Survival".There you can see the criminal operation of the western regimes against weak regimes worldwide.Or "Plan of Attack" authored by a well respected American journalist:Bob Woodward.In this book, you can read about the Saudis financial support for the US criminal operations against their own brothers in that country(Iraq).You can also read DUDE WHERE IS MY COUNTRY.Authored by Michael Moore.There you will find,again the Saudis financial support for the US criminal operations worldwide.It was the saudis who gave the CIA 10 million dollars to destroy the Italian communist party in the 80s.It was the same Saudis who paid another one million dollars to built first criminal BUSH library.There are other books i could recomend to you, but you could read these first, and please dont forget to read the Authobiography of Malcolm X.Well i dont actually agree with all what Alex Haley wrote in the book.I believe he distorted some of malcolm x words, prove of which, he deleberately throw out the last chapters, which contains malcolm x political philosophy,and strategy to achieve them. See u later |
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kisley
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 Dec 2007 : 19:17:55
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MR Justice, If I could just bring something to your attention. Next time you post, could you possibly put two spaces after a fullstop, and one space after a comma. It is so much easier on the eye, and it will make your post sound a lot less frenzied.
Thanks |
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