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kondorong
Gambia
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 Posted - 24 Mar 2006 : 19:22:49
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I believe we could properly and accurately talk about legacy if the person is no longer alive when he would have ceased to influence and therefore affect history.
However, we would need to dissect his legacy up to 1994 when he was overthrown.
Please send in your objective contributons and let us respect opinions of others.
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“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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taalibeh
Gambia
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Posted - 24 Mar 2006 : 20:14:12
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Oh yes he had legacies. For 30 years he left us a country without a university, tv, with the most corrupt and flambouyant vice president. At least he was crowned the champion of human rights, which I know you will be proud of as a Kondorong human rights activist.
At least he was far better than what we have now, not even comparable. He never had respect for his opponents such as PDOIS. Today in my opinion, he has destroyed any good legacy he left for deciding to eventually teaming up with jammeh. A principled D K Jawara should not have comtemplated teaming up with jammeh for any reason.
I hope and pray for him that he will not be arrested and implicated in this fabrication current emanating from the country. |
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Edited by - taalibeh on 24 Mar 2006 20:15:23 |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 24 Mar 2006 : 20:22:09
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| So the saying is you may never know how valubale something is until you loose it. Will Gambian say the same of Yaya? |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
Edited by - kondorong on 24 Mar 2006 20:22:42 |
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dbaldeh
USA
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Posted - 24 Mar 2006 : 22:16:55
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I am a strong critic of Jawara, and recently I wrote a piece on Allgambian entitle "Dawda Jawara; a sysbol of pride or disgrace"? You can read it on allgambian.net.
I belief Jawara will go down in history as the worst leadership failure Africa ever had to witness. When you look around the economic and political conditions in the Gambia today, you see Jawara's failed signature on everyone of them. For thirty (30) good years he precided over a rotten egg ready to burst that left our country with no hope whatsover.
The institutions of democracy and economic prosperity cannot be built and sustained by a president who does not only lack the knowledge, but the intellectual capacity to see beyond himself. This is the kind of person (Jammeh) that Jawara delivered to Gambians as a thank you token. Sir Dawda, or better even "PAPA" had all the opportunities to build a strong political and economic foundation for generation and generation to come. He had the intellectual capacity, the resources and the international support to build a society and system that was worthy of emulation in Africa and the world. Instead he chooses either deliberately or selfishly to ignore the cry for economic and political emancipation.
Jawara rode on our people's backs, took advantage of their loyalty and systematically down graded them from pride and independence to the lowest self esteem and economic dependence on foreign aide. Just a quick example to support my point.
When I was growing up in the early 70s, our farmers were the proudest to be able to produce their own food supply Rice, groundnuts, millets, and corn just to mention few. Some would even make remarks like " I will not eat imported rice". This was simply because they were able to produce their own food supply enough to sustain their large families. Subsequently, they were robbed of those abilities by the government not supporting their hardwork. Groundnuts produced in abundance were bought at the lowest of prices compared to the world market and our neighbors senegal. This totally killed the spirit of our farmers thus they turned to Jawara's rice.
Any economically informed person will agree that a countries food supplies is supported by farmers. How then did Jawara managed to ignore these sector of our work force to the level we are today? This is just one out of thousands of areas he failed.
Finally, democracy and the rule of law; Jawara never took the initiative to strengthen our democratic institutions. He never acknowledge that there was need for an independent electoral process. No institution of democracy and civic education was given attention simply because it would have meant political conciousness for our people. This resulted into lack of security and trust among our people to have the ability to change the government as they desired. This sad reality led us to Jammeh today. How could Jawara have the got to face the Gambian people again and endorse a birth of a dectator and brutal system that he help built. History will judge his legacy as one of dark ages. He should publicly ask for forgiveness from the Gambian people. May be that would redeem him and paint his legacy better.
Baldeh |
Baldeh,
"Be the change you want to see in the world" Ghandi
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 24 Mar 2006 : 22:51:52
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Jawara was a champion of human rights and that was was why have the Center for Human Rights Studies in the Gambia. I believe he took us from far away.
If you consider the fact that we had a grant from the British goverment to finance our recurrent expenditure, with very dilapidated infrastructure etc. certainly he must have taken us further towards progress. Like nkrumah said, if you are going to measure my success by the heights i have attained, then you must be prepared to measure the depths from which i came. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
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Posted - 25 Mar 2006 : 00:35:05
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| Well history will judge the two {Jawara and Jammeh?} in what ever role each government played to make the lives good,better,best bad worse,or worst of the people they rule. |
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kayjatta
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Posted - 25 Mar 2006 : 00:41:47
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I believe Jawara's legacy is a mix of "blessings"and "mistakes".
I would like to elaborate on this in my next visit to yhis site. |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 25 Mar 2006 : 01:07:25
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| Jayanfara you have to spill the beans. You seem to be avoiding the point. Kayjatta, you postings are awaited. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
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Posted - 25 Mar 2006 : 01:15:39
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Kon,
No not at all you know I never run away.
I want to put that in my little secret box till latter.Because the post of vice president will become APRC's bigest battle.Even Junkung is doing all to avoid that topic for now.
"So help the devil to its distrution is better than enlightening it to distroy or harm you further" |
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kondorong
Gambia
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Posted - 25 Mar 2006 : 01:29:37
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Amen
Give a fool a long rope and he will hang himself. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
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Posted - 25 Mar 2006 : 01:42:02
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You right,
"MO BUKA FAALOO MUTA A KOMA SINGO LA"(You never hold a donkey with its hind legs. ha ha hai |
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 25 Mar 2006 : 01:45:03
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| There was a story when a friend of mine sent his son to the village and he tried to hold a donkey from behind and he got a good kick. he shouted, the donkey kicked me with his hard shoes. he thought the donkey had shoes on because the kick was hard and rough. (laugh ........) |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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Janyanfara
Tanzania
1350 Posts |
Posted - 25 Mar 2006 : 02:24:19
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You madman,
God bless you.
You are killing me with laughter.I have to sleep now with a smile on my face.Maybe I might dream of holding a donkey by its hind legs or big shoes.(laughs..) |
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somita
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Mar 2006 : 17:05:06
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Gentlemen, Jammeh is perhaps every enlighthen Gambian's nightmare today, ignorant, arrogant and selfish, all the qualities that one wishes a leader not to posses, equally calling Ex president Jawara a Human Rights champion fits only a very narrow definition of human rights that can only be written in pencil.
Jawara presided over a government that denied majority of Gambians their very basic rights such as education and health, there by constraining and limiting their awareness and as such freedom of speech ... its strike me how one could label him a champion of human rights. You and I have the previledge today to exercise our freedom of speech not because of Jammeh or Jawara instead we are enlighthen. Jawara regime’s policy was to keep Gambians in the dark, status quo on almost every issue including the well-being of Gambians, while their sons and daughters gain government scholarship to Universities at the expense of the ordinary man in the street.
I join the ranks of very tiny part of our population that come against the odds success but looking back today i feel the air of loneliness, none of my mates made it up to this level either their parents cannot afford or they have been abandoned by the system created by Jawara. So if I may ask, how many Gambian children's rights have been abuse and continued to be abuse
Jawara and co and perhaps the most corrupt leaders that Gambia will ever see, they had the chance to make The Gambia a better place in 1965 and fail bitterly. What we have today, including Jammeh and his bunch is a result of Jawara’s incompetency, greed and self-centeredness. In 1965 the population was 350,000, £3million pounds grands was given by the British over the period of 3yrs not to mention the grant given by the UN body, yet a wopping 96% of the pupolation remain in pitch darkness in the true sense of the words. My preposition is that corruption or deliberate embezzlement of public funds is tantamount to human rights abuse because effectively you have denied people their basic facilities that embezzled funds should have provided, like clean drinking water, food, healthcare and education.
My parents have supported Jawara since 1965, in fact my Granddad was amongst the first selected councillor since 1962 until his departure in 1992, he is proud supporter of PPP and remained so to his final resting place. Looking back I never blame him, for he and many others did nothing wrong, they trusted Jawara and he let them down. Gambia currently predicament is Jawara and PPP’s sowing, if I may say, one only harvest the crops which one have sown. It’s a bitter taste but it’s the truth.
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kondorong
Gambia
4380 Posts |
Posted - 27 Mar 2006 : 18:56:49
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But are there no achievements under jawara. Certainly the country was not like it was at independence interms of education, roads, health etc. I think we need to look at Gambia at the time of indepence and guage the progress agaisnt that.
I think we are a generation that has been blessesd as a result of technology(communication). The internet has brough th world closer and as such we become incresingly restless and unsatisfied because we have either travelled or educated enough to know what we are missing.
But would it not be fair to judge Jawara in the light of his time and not what the world is today otherwise we will be seen to be biase and not comparing light with light. |
“When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always.” |
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somita
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 Mar 2006 : 20:09:50
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| Of course Kondorong and rightly so, considering the fact that every west african country has a bitter taste of civil war except Gambia equally apart from Guinea bissau, all other countries in west africa had better infrastructure, more educated because they had beter educational facilities and perhaps better health care too. My argument is simple, he handed us to Jammeh not directly but created the environment where tyrants like Jammeh can breed and survive. |
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